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Re: Bob Brown Windy Farms too Noisy
Reply #60 - Dec 24th, 2011 at 3:25pm
 
Lobo wrote on Dec 24th, 2011 at 1:27pm:
juliar wrote on Dec 20th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Green Hell on earth has turned peoples dream retreats into a living hell as they become sick.

How would you like to put up with this cacophonous onslaught non stop day and night ?


http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/electricity-nightmares/xzh1xj5#::06f65387-45...

http://www.windturbinesyndrome.com/news/2010/hell-on-earth/


LOL
Take note of the interview with this woman at approx 30sec mark.

All of 50/60m from the turbine and all you can hear is her whining.

Not a sound from the turbine.
Cheesy

Interesting not all smokers get cancer

Not all beach goers get melanomas

18 in 100000 get ms in Queensland

30 plus in 100000 in Victoria      34 plus in Tasmania   So why is it not possible that some people get effected in this way by elect magnetic pulse   or noise

Like some become Alcoholics   

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Reply #61 - Dec 24th, 2011 at 8:57pm
 
FRED. wrote on Dec 24th, 2011 at 3:25pm:
Lobo wrote on Dec 24th, 2011 at 1:27pm:
juliar wrote on Dec 20th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Green Hell on earth has turned peoples dream retreats into a living hell as they become sick.

How would you like to put up with this cacophonous onslaught non stop day and night ?


http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/electricity-nightmares/xzh1xj5#::06f65387-45...

http://www.windturbinesyndrome.com/news/2010/hell-on-earth/


LOL
Take note of the interview with this woman at approx 30sec mark.

All of 50/60m from the turbine and all you can hear is her whining.

Not a sound from the turbine.
Cheesy

Interesting not all smokers get cancer

Not all beach goers get melanomas

18 in 100000 get ms in Queensland

30 plus in 100000 in Victoria      34 plus in Tasmania   So why is it not possible that some people get effected in this way by elect magnetic pulse   or noise

Like some become Alcoholics   

Wink


The lady is not talking cancer, or melanomas and I don't think she is an alchoholic.
She was talking about NOISE!

While standing approx 50m  away from the turbine.
And you CAN'T hear any.

Not only that, but the noise that was recorded, in the close-ups, had that metallic sound you get when you put the mic against an object making a faint sound so that it will magnify that sound.

If you don't want to believe that, it's easy to try for yourself.
Take a recorder out to your car and start the motor and let it idle.
Record the sound from 5m away then, while recording, walk to your car and place the mic somewhere on the car.

Then listen to the playback and you will see that I am correct.

Smiley
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Re: Bob Brown Windy Farms too Noisy
Reply #62 - Dec 25th, 2011 at 7:08am
 
Lobo wrote on Dec 24th, 2011 at 8:57pm:
FRED. wrote on Dec 24th, 2011 at 3:25pm:
Lobo wrote on Dec 24th, 2011 at 1:27pm:
juliar wrote on Dec 20th, 2011 at 5:06pm:
Green Hell on earth has turned peoples dream retreats into a living hell as they become sick.

How would you like to put up with this cacophonous onslaught non stop day and night ?


http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/electricity-nightmares/xzh1xj5#::06f65387-45...

http://www.windturbinesyndrome.com/news/2010/hell-on-earth/


LOL
Take note of the interview with this woman at approx 30sec mark.

All of 50/60m from the turbine and all you can hear is her whining.

Not a sound from the turbine.
Cheesy

Interesting not all smokers get cancer

Not all beach goers get melanomas

18 in 100000 get ms in Queensland

30 plus in 100000 in Victoria      34 plus in Tasmania   So why is it not possible that some people get effected in this way by elect magnetic pulse   or noise

Like some become Alcoholics   

Wink


The lady is not talking cancer, or melanomas and I don't think she is an alchoholic.
She was talking about NOISE!

While standing approx 50m  away from the turbine.
And you CAN'T hear any.

Not only that, but the noise that was recorded, in the close-ups, had that metallic sound you get when you put the mic against an object making a faint sound so that it will magnify that sound.

If you don't want to believe that, it's easy to try for yourself.
Take a recorder out to your car and start the motor and let it idle.
Record the sound from 5m away then, while recording, walk to your car and place the mic somewhere on the car.

Then listen to the playback and you will see that I am correct.

Smiley

Wink THE point is some MIGHT GET EFFECTED and some might not
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Reply #63 - Dec 25th, 2011 at 3:21pm
 
It is now law - the horrible nauseating incessant noise from Bob Brown Windy Farms to be legally kept away from residents.

Reality has finally been recognized by real government and residents will no longer have their idyllic peaceful quiet rural retreats turned into a hell on earth and have their lives destroyed as they suffer from sickness caused by the constant tension and stress from having, day and night, to put up with the extremely irritating swirling whirling swishing sound of Bob Brown windy farms.

How long before the claims for compensation start coming in. The next move is to remove offending existing windy farms away from residences.

This shows how important it is to NOT vote for Bob Brown's
Communist Greens party
because under Bob Brown's
Communist Australia
people would simply not be allowed to complain and if they did they would be subjected to horror treatment by the
Communist secret police
. Just like in
Communist Nth Korea
which the
Communist Bob Brown
sees as the ideal political model for Australia.

So any person whose peaceful rural retreat is being threatened by the proposed construction of a soul destroying Bob Brown windy farm must lodge their official objection immediately or face the prospect of having their lives and health destroyed.

NSW gets world's toughest wind farm rules    December 23, 2011

PEOPLE living within two kilometres of proposed wind farms will have the right to veto them, under a NSW government proposal.

Planning and Infrastructure Minister Brad Hazzard says NSW remains committed to being part of the Federal Government's 20 per cent renewable energy target by 2020, despite proposing what he has described as the world's toughest wind-farm guidelines.

Under the proposal, a company wanting to set up a wind farm in an area where landowner consent has not been given will have to go to an independent regional planning panel if there is community opposition.

''That means 100 per cent of neighbours have to be happy within that two-kilometre zone,'' Mr Hazzard told reporters in Sydney.

Mr Hazzard said he hoped the idea would find a balance between residents living near wind turbines and supporters of renewable energy.

''Today I am announcing that the NSW coalition government is putting out for public discussion some of the toughest wind-farm guidelines in the country, possibly the world,'' he said.

The Victorian coalition government this year gave residents within a two-kilometre radius a right of veto over wind turbines.

But Mr Hazzard said the NSW proposal was different to Victoria's and that wind-farm proponents would get a bigger say.

People wishing to write submissions to the NSW Department of Planning and Infrastructure have until March 14.

Across NSW, there are 17 applications to build wind farms, including 13 that are yet to be shown to the public.

The
NSW Greens
said the proposal would kill off the wind-generation sector in favour of coal seam gas as a solution to the state's future energy needs.

''If this draft plan becomes law, the government has effectively chosen a destructive coal seam gas future for NSW, over the clean, green and jobs-rich wind-energy sector,''
Greens planning spokesman David Shoebridg
e said.

''NSW is abandoning the most cost-effective option for reducing its carbon footprint, which in effect means it is giving the green light for coal seam gas projects across the state.''

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/nsw-gets-worlds-toughest-wind-far...
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Reply #64 - Dec 26th, 2011 at 1:03pm
 
THE point is some MIGHT GET EFFECTED and some might not (FRED).

Some MIGHT GET (A)FFECTED, but that is NOT what this woman is whining about.

It's NOISE!!
And 50m away you can't hear the bloody thing.

Maybe her biggest whinge is one that is not being mentioned.
She didn't get in early enough, or was in the wrong location to take advantage of the money being offered.

BTW...
Did you try my experiment?
Could there possibly be a case of innaccurate or misleading reporting?
No, that wouldn't be at all possible, would it??

Cheesy
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Reply #65 - Jan 6th, 2012 at 11:45am
 
Froggo, pleeze rejister your vocifferuss komplaints with SA govt as soon as possible.


Liberals commit to wind farm reform
Posted on January 6, 2012

The State Liberals will protect South Australian communities from wind farms built too close to homes, by banning new wind farms from being built more than two kilometres from an existing residence.


A Redmond Liberal Government will:

• Ban new wind turbines from being built closer than two kilometres from an existing home
• Allow third-party appeal rights, which Labor wants to remove
• Help develop national guidelines regarding separation distances and noise emissions
• Develop a state-wide zoning plan outlining where industrial wind turbines will be allowed
• Adopt a new approval process for wind farms which will consider associated infrastructure
• Protect adjacent landowners against economic losses caused by restrictions on aerial spraying and crop-dusting
• Develop clear guidelines for fire-fighting and bushfire protection around wind farms

Opposition Leader Isobel Redmond said that while community opposition to industrial-scale wind farms is increasing, Labor is planning to approve more wind farms closer to homes and schools.

“The South Australian Liberals believe wind farms must not be approved on sites where they create negative economic and social effects,” Ms Redmond said.

“We will protect residents by banning new wind turbines from being built closer than two kilometres from an existing home.

“We have more wind generation of any other State, with more than half of Australia's installed wind power in SA and it is time we started looking after the communities that live near wind farms.

“Labor approved changes to the wind farm approval process in a rush job designed to appease former Premier Rann.

“South Australians deserve well thought out planning processes not ill-considered rush jobs from a tired, city-centric Labor Government.”
 
http://www.isobelredmond.com.au/Media/MediaReleases/tabid/70/articleType/Article...
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Reply #66 - Jan 6th, 2012 at 5:18pm
 
juliar wrote on Dec 25th, 2011 at 3:21pm:
[b]It is now law - the horrible nauseating incessant noise from Bob Brown Windy Farms to be legally kept away from residents.


What you constantly keep pointing out is that the Liberal state governments have changed progressive legislation to take it back to the last century. Is this supposed to be news? If anything it's a regular reminder of what a crap job a coalition federal government would do. They'd take us back to before the last millenium.

Thanks liar. Keep up the good work.  Cheesy
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Reply #67 - Jan 18th, 2012 at 6:17am
 
Who does Smitham think he's fooling ? The CSIRO has to peddle lying rubbish like this because Miss Gillard has threatened that if they don't, their funds will be cut. The CSIRO are just puppets that say what they are told to say to support the never ending stream of lies from the union controlled Labor and their Communist Greens Prime Minister dear old Uncle Bob.

Strong support for wind farms obscured, says CSIRO report

Kelsey Munro, Ben Cubby   January 18, 2012

Dr Jim Smitham … found a high level of local acceptance.

THERE is much stronger public support for wind farms than media coverage of the issue would suggest, because a ''vocal minority'' who oppose wind farms secure the majority of media and political attention, according to new CSIRO research.

A peer-reviewed study by Brisbane researchers investigated attitudes to nine wind farms in various stages of development in NSW, Victoria and South Australia, concluding there was a strong level of support ''from rural residents who do not seek media attention or political engagement to express their views''.

By contrast, more than half of all wind farm proposals had been opposed by members of the Landscape Guardian group, the report noted.

The CSIRO's deputy director, energy technology, Jim Smitham, one of the reviewers of the report, said it showed a disconnect between negative and conflict-oriented media coverage about wind farms and the attitude of a majority in the communities where wind farms were proposed or already operating.

''You find more media stories supporting the case against wind farms than those for it,'' he said. ''Whereas, going into the field and doing interviews at community level, they have different reasons but many of them support the wind farm; it just isn't as apparent as the people who are able to find a short sharp reason to reject it.''

Dr Smitham said wind farm developers that proactively consulted with communities and responded to their concerns had achieved far higher local acceptance of their projects.

The report, Acceptance of rural wind farms in Australia: A snapshot, by CSIRO's social research team, comes as the draft guidelines on wind farm development in this state are open for public comment.

The researchers conducted interviews with wind farm developers, councils, turbine hosts, community opponents and supporters of the projects in each of the nine locations.

Wind farm opponents cited negatives including poor consultation, visual amenity and noise, while supporters cited benefits including improved infrastructure such as roads and firebreaks, clean energy and better local job prospects, the report found.

The debate over noise and health impacts has been a key issue raised by opponents. A series of peer-reviewed studies have found no evidence that low-level sound from wind farms has made people sick, but some international studies included self-selected surveys in which people living near wind farms reported annoyance and interrupted sleep as a result of vibrations from the turbine blades.

The CSIRO report noted wind farms can create stress which affects wellbeing.

The Landscape Guardians could not be reached for comment yesterday
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/energy-smart/strong-support-for-wind-farms-obs...
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Reply #68 - Jan 18th, 2012 at 6:52pm
 
Lobo wrote on Dec 26th, 2011 at 1:03pm:
THE point is some MIGHT GET EFFECTED and some might not (FRED).

Some MIGHT GET (A)FFECTED, but that is NOT what this woman is whining about.

It's NOISE!!
And 50m away you can't hear the bloody thing.

Maybe her biggest whinge is one that is not being mentioned.
She didn't get in early enough, or was in the wrong location to take advantage of the money being offered.

BTW...
Did you try my experiment?
Could there possibly be a case of innaccurate or misleading reporting?
No, that wouldn't be at all possible, would it??

Cheesy


Instead of banging on with all your crap, mellie, try the experiment I outlined earlier.

You just might learn something.

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Reply #69 - Jan 18th, 2012 at 6:54pm
 
Gist wrote on Jan 6th, 2012 at 5:18pm:
juliar wrote on Dec 25th, 2011 at 3:21pm:
[b]It is now law - the horrible nauseating incessant noise from Bob Brown Windy Farms to be legally kept away from residents.


What you constantly keep pointing out is that the Liberal state governments have changed progressive legislation to take it back to the last century. Is this supposed to be news? If anything it's a regular reminder of what a crap job a coalition federal government would do. They'd take us back to before the last millenium.

Thanks liar. Keep up the good work.  Cheesy


mellie is a paid political hack maybe???

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Reply #70 - Jan 18th, 2012 at 7:50pm
 
If all you armchair arm waving Bob Brown windy farm experts want to have some credibility then go to one or more of the problem sites where people are lodging complaints and spend at least a week there in the person's house.

Go there in summer when the problem is worst due to the hot still air close to the ground which makes it hard to go to sleep and people open the windows to try to keep cool.

To actually qualify you will first need to have a medical including a HEARING test to verify you are not deaf as a post. The real concern is if you have a pre-existing heart condition you might snuff it when exposed to the stress of living with the extremely disturbing intrusive inescapable racket from these whirling dervishes. A week without sleep can be pretty devastating and can cause a high degree of dangerous stress.

Don't get too close in case one of the windy turbines disintegrates and possibly catches fire.
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Reply #71 - Jan 18th, 2012 at 7:56pm
 
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Reply #72 - Jan 18th, 2012 at 8:31pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 20th, 2011 at 3:09pm:
Wind turbines look a bit sh*t from what I can see.

Then again, if my house is powered by a nuclear plant, ..... I really couldn't give a toss as long as its nowhere near where I live.







I THINK your "safe"


There will NEVER be a nuclear power plant built in Australia


After the mass radiation entering the atmosphere and food chain in Fukushima - and a century of cancers and birth defects resulting - I see the chance of any more plants being built on the Pacific Rim as not very likely


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Reply #73 - Jan 19th, 2012 at 3:21pm
 
juliar wrote on Jan 18th, 2012 at 7:50pm:
If all you armchair arm waving Bob Brown windy farm experts want to have some credibility then go to one or more of the problem sites where people are lodging complaints and spend at least a week there in the person's house.

*Go there in summer when the problem is worst due to the hot still air close to the ground which makes it hard to go to sleep and people open the windows to try to keep cool.

To actually qualify you will first need to have a medical including a HEARING test to verify you are not deaf as a post. The real concern is if you have a pre-existing heart condition you might snuff it when exposed to the stress of living with the** extremely disturbing intrusive inescapable racket from these whirling dervishes. A week without sleep can be pretty devastating and can cause a high degree of dangerous stress.

***Don't get too close in case one of the windy turbines disintegrates and possibly catches fire.


*I take it that you have done just this, melliar?

** More garbage, melliar.
I was watching 'whirling dervishes' on a travelogue not long back and they didn't make any noise at all.
Just spun round and round and round......Though the music IS quite loud.
Do the wind farms have a musical backing group, melliar??



*** If this was to be a problem, tell me just how many (exact number, please), out of the thousands around the world, have caught fire.


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Reply #74 - Jan 19th, 2012 at 5:58pm
 
Frog, For everyone's benefit tell us all just what is your IQ.

You are not discussing the topic because you know that the state governments have recognized the truth that people DO HAVE genuine valid justification for their complaints and that is now enshrined in LAW.

You are using the typical Labor style approach of unsuccessfully trying to rubbish and ridicule the person because you don't have anything useful to contribute. Just admit you have lost the debate and go and try to annoy another topic.
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