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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Are These Job Vacancies All A Fiddle. Reply #15 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 2:11pm Quote: When the 2 - 3 months of fruit or vegetable picking is over; what does the person do for the other 9 - 10 months of the year? They pick all year round here. When they're not picking they're pruning.
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Reply #16 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 2:57pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 2:02pm:

Getting a job in the mines without prior mine or construction experience and a ticket or three is pretty damn hard. A lot of places require that you've coughed up for a mine industry induction course before you even apply for a job.

Even a being a spotter requires a ticket these days.

Things have changed a bit since I was 'in the game' in
the early 1990's, by the sound of it.

I've got a lot of the tickets, and previous experience, but
am too knocked-around physically to do it these days.

Nor am I prepared to move to the other side of the country
or out the back of Woop-Woop.

Soooooo.....I paint houses.

Works for me, and there's no shortage of work ATM.

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Reply #17 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 3:08pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 2:11pm:

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When the 2 - 3 months of fruit or vegetable picking is over; what does the person do for the other 9 - 10 months of the year?

They pick all year round here. When they're not picking they're pruning.

What fruit and veg are you talking about, and what areas?

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Reply #18 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 3:12pm

[quote author=7E7B74774D757D77614D7D7C120 link=1325100682/14#14 date=1325131368]Getting a job in the mines without prior mine or construction experience and a ticket or three is pretty damn hard. A lot of places require that you've coughed up for a mine industry induction course before you even apply for a job.

Even a being a spotter requires a ticket these days.

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I wonder will the same strict criteria that applies for white Australians apply for the 457 visa applicants when they come over? I guess for them brown boys all they will require is to be able to put an X in certain spaces.

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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Are These Job Vacancies All A Fiddle. Reply #19 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:25pm Sir lastnail wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 1:26pm: We now live in a dog-eat-dog global village where the beneficiaries are the rich corporations That same global dog eat dog village lets you buy from overseas online as well, dont forget that.
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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: Are These Job Vacancies All A Fiddle. Reply #20 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:29pm whenever i hear the words we can't find any employees, plz give us more visas i reach for my revolver
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Reply #21 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:32pm

Kat wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 2:57pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 2:02pm:

Getting a job in the mines without prior mine or construction experience and a ticket or three is pretty damn hard. A lot of places require that you've coughed up for a mine industry induction course before you even apply for a job.

Even a being a spotter requires a ticket these days.

Things have changed a bit since I was 'in the game' in
the early 1990's, by the sound of it.

I've got a lot of the tickets, and previous experience, but
am too knocked-around physically to do it these days.

Nor am I prepared to move to the other side of the country
or out the back of Woop-Woop.

Soooooo.....I paint houses.

Works for me, and there's no shortage of work ATM.

the tickets can be such bullsh!t, too. you need like a million tickets just to get a job being one of those stop sign holder guys at road work sites.

employers dont want to train anybody anymore so they shift the costs onto government and educational institutions.

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Reply #22 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:34pm

barnaby joe wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:29pm:

whenever i hear the words we can't find any employees, plz give us more visas i reach for my revolver

And yet despite the rantings of pansi and co there is not one mention of mining companies demanding 457 visas for foreign workers.

And for the rest of you and your 'friends' that applied for mining jobs and didn't get one; it's not a conspiracy, the companies just didn't like you. Grin

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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: Are These Job Vacancies All A Fiddle. Reply #23 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:37pm read between the lines. im on pansis side thist ime.
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Reply #24 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:45pm

barnaby joe wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

read between the lines.

im on pansis side thist ime.

Well that's just sad for you Imp. Wink

I actually work in mining and the employee war is between WA & QLD, there is no talk of cheap labor from O/S; the CFMEU would never allow it anyway.

It doesn't take that much logic and rational thought to realise pansi knows less than frig-all about most things; best to presume the opposite is true of whatever she says.

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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Are These Job Vacancies All A Fiddle. Reply #25 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:54pm barnaby joe wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:37pm: read between the lines. im on pansis side thist ime. Everything to pansi is a conspiracy and thinks its all about this 1% crap.
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Reply #26 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:59pm

culldav wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 3:08pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 2:11pm:

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When the 2 - 3 months of fruit or vegetable picking is over; what does the person do for the other 9 - 10 months of the year?

They pick all year round here. When they're not picking they're pruning.

What fruit and veg are you talking about, and what areas?

Central Qld coast. The main ones around here are tomatoes, avos, squash, citrus, stone fruit, mangos.

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Are These Job Vacancies All A Fiddle. Reply #27 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 5:05pm You will find 457 visa holders end up in the jobs that the workers have left to go work in the mines - not in the mines themselves. You're kidding yourself if you think they're going to allow unticketed cheap overseas labour on any mining site.
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Re: Are These Job Vacancies All A Fiddle.
Reply #28 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 5:17pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 5:05pm:

You will find 457 visa holders end up in the jobs that the workers have left to go work in the mines - not in the mines themselves.

You're kidding yourself if you think they're going to allow unticketed cheap overseas labour on any mining site.

isnt that what I said???

cheap labor with all those unions to get through.. ah.ah.

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Reply #29 - Dec 29^th, 2011 at 5:55pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 4:59pm:

culldav wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 3:08pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Dec 29^th, 2011 at 2:11pm:

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When the 2 - 3 months of fruit or vegetable picking is over; what does the person do for the other 9 - 10 months of the year?

They pick all year round here. When they're not picking they're pruning.

What fruit and veg are you talking about, and what areas?

Central Qld coast. The main ones around here are tomatoes, avos, squash, citrus, stone fruit, mangos.

That' ok for your area, as there might be jobs in the fruit picking industry to keep people employed most of the year, but what happens in areas where there is only "ONE" specific fruit like apples, grapes, cherries or oranges, which only lasts for about 3 months.

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