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Reply #75 - Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:25pm

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:16pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:12pm:

The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal

The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war.

Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before.

Lest We Forget.

There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum.

An illegal vessel, in Australian waters, that has been taking part in illegal whaling, and now abduct Australians from Australian waters.

This is a japanese act of war against Australia.

Time to cut ties and cut trade.

Its a very serious offense to board a ship on the High seas - make them walk the plank.

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Reply #76 - Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:30pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:25pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:16pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:12pm:

The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal

The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war.

Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before.

Lest We Forget.

There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum.

An illegal vessel, in Australian waters, that has been taking part in illegal whaling, and now abduct Australians from Australian waters.

This is a japanese act of war against Australia.

Time to cut ties and cut trade.

Its a very serious offense to board a ship on the High seas - make them walk the plank.

http://blogs.middlebury.edu/southchinasea/files/2011/08/walk-the-plank-disney.jp... Cheesy

Yes, an illegal whaling boat in Australian waters is on par with piracy.

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Reply #77 - Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:31pm

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:30pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:25pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:16pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:12pm:

The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal

The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war.

Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before.

Lest We Forget.

There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum.

An illegal vessel, in Australian waters, that has been taking part in illegal whaling, and now abduct Australians from Australian waters.

This is a japanese act of war against Australia.

Time to cut ties and cut trade.

Its a very serious offense to board a ship on the High seas - make them walk the plank.

http://blogs.middlebury.edu/southchinasea/files/2011/08/walk-the-plank-disney.jp... Cheesy

Yes, an illegal whaling boat in Australian waters is on par with piracy.

Greens_Lose, you're and idiot and I'm going to bed.

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Reply #79 - Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:40pm

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:30pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:25pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:16pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 11:12pm:

The Japanese where harassing SeaShep and so followed it into Australian Waters ... this is illegal

The Japanese, once confronted by Australians then abducted them out of Australian territory ... and act of terrorism and an act of war.

Why are you defending a country who has committed crimes against Australians before.

Lest We Forget.

There was no invitation from the Japanese for those activists to climb aboard the Japanese vessel, nor do the activists have any right to carry out such action. The Japanese are well within their rights to detain them and prosecute them in Japanese courts. That you choose to ignore these very simple, straightforward facts shows a level of stupidity/ignorance not often seen - even on an internet forum.

An illegal vessel, in Australian waters, that has been taking part in illegal whaling, and now abduct Australians from Australian waters.

This is a japanese act of war against Australia.

Time to cut ties and cut trade.

Its a very serious offense to board a ship on the High seas - make them walk the plank.

http://blogs.middlebury.edu/southchinasea/files/2011/08/walk-the-plank-disney.jp... Cheesy

Yes, an illegal whaling boat in Australian waters is on par with piracy.

You are corrupting the word illegal like all rightwingers do. There is no evidence this vessel is illegal or committing any crime. The protesters are the only ones here who have committed a crime - my question is who is backing them? I suspect they are being supported by super rich corporate interests to harass anyone going near fish stocks in international waters that Australian business interests wish to monopolize. The Japanese have a case to make here that the Sea Shepherd group are Pirates and Terrorists. I have serious reservations about them. Cool

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Reply #80 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:43am

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:21pm:

And where did Labor get their information from ... a group of illegal whale butcherers

I am aware this Government is incompetent, but not so incompetent they would be unaware that they have access to satellite imagery let alone rely on foreign vessels regarding security information in our own waters.
It doesn't work that way Green.

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Reply #81 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:48am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:43am:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:21pm:

And where did Labor get their information from ... a group of illegal whale butcherers

I am aware this Government is incompetent, but not so incompetent they would be unaware that they have access to satellite imagery let alone rely on foreign vessels regarding security information in our own waters.
It doesn't work that way Green.

Rubbish ... without the illegal whale butchers feeding Labor their propaganda, Labor would be saying ... like asked where they are now ... We Don't Know !

Your support of Labor's incompetence is a sign of your political hypocrisy.

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Reply #82 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:03am

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:29pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction.

It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction.

The Government are saying different.

Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side?

This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life.

Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers.

It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing?

Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago.
And they still have access to satellites too eh.

But you can't have it both ways you know.
These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming.
Their choice really.
And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'.
These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them.
Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh.
However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well.
Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots.

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Reply #83 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:05am

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:48am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 6:43am:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:21pm:

And where did Labor get their information from ... a group of illegal whale butcherers

I am aware this Government is incompetent, but not so incompetent they would be unaware that they have access to satellite imagery let alone rely on foreign vessels regarding security information in our own waters.
It doesn't work that way Green.

Rubbish ... without the illegal whale butchers feeding Labor their propaganda, Labor would be saying ... like asked where they are now ... We Don't Know !

Your support of Labor's incompetence is a sign of your political hypocrisy.

I don't support Labor, nor am I going to pretend that they do not have access to satellites or any other defence assets.
And why you do so I don't know why.

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Reply #84 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:08am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:29pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction.

It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction.

The Government are saying different.

Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side?

This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life.

Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers.

It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing?

Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago.
And they still have access to satellites too eh.

But you can't have it both ways you know.
These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming.
Their choice really.
And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'.
These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them.
Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh.
However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well.
Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots.

Liberals support the Greens in Labor sending a ship down to observe and document the illegal activities of the butcherers.

How much do Liberals think this will cost in Taxes?

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Reply #85 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:14am

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:29pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction.

It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction.

The Government are saying different.

Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side?

This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life.

Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers.

It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing?

Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago.
And they still have access to satellites too eh.

But you can't have it both ways you know.
These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming.
Their choice really.
And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'.
These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them.
Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh.
However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well.
Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots.

Liberals support the Greens in Labor sending a ship down to observe and document the illegal activities of the butcherers.

How much do Liberals think this will cost in Taxes?

They don't.
Liberals are in Opposition remember.
That's the Governments job to know that, if they can remember to actually do their job that is.
Perhaps Booby might have that info though.

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Reply #86 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 8:23am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:14am:

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:29pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction.

It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction.

The Government are saying different.

Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side?

This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life.

Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers.

It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing?

Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago.
And they still have access to satellites too eh.

But you can't have it both ways you know.
These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming.
Their choice really.
And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'.
These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them.
Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh.
However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well.
Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots.

Liberals support the Greens in Labor sending a ship down to observe and document the illegal activities of the butcherers.

How much do Liberals think this will cost in Taxes?

They don't.
Liberals are in Opposition remember.
That's the Governments job to know that, if they can remember to actually do their job that is.
Perhaps Booby might have that info though.

Yes, the Left do have a habit of forgetting that Abbott Leader of the Opposition, not Prime Minister when they want to blame him for their own shortcomings - of which they have many.

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Reply #87 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 8:30am

____ wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 10:29pm:

____ wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 9^th, 2012 at 6:51pm:

By the way, the Japanese didn't abduct them. The three men in question voluntarily boarded the ship. That the Japanese are refusing to release them due to their illegal boarding does not constitute abduction.

It was in Australian waters ... so it is abduction.

The Government are saying different.

Would you have preferred them to be thrown over the side?

This is the path the old parties have taken us ... first they undermined human life from overseas ... now they want to undermine Australian life.

Thank goodness I still have my humanity ... thank goodness there are Greens supporters around ... and increasing in numbers.

It is good to know the right now believe Labor to be competent all of a sudden.Now tell me, where did Labor get it's information of the where abouts of the Japanese illegal Whaling vessel ... from the boat it has observing?

Hell has not frozen over yet Green, and Labor is still incompetent today as they were four years ago.
And they still have access to satellites too eh.

But you can't have it both ways you know.
These three criminals either stay with the Japanese ship they voluntarily boarded, or they start swimming.
Their choice really.
And this has nothing to do with 'humanity'.
These three are responsible for their own actions and will stand accountable for them.
Perhaps the Sea Shepherd captain could show some of that 'humanity' himself, and not deny the three activists right to come back aboard where they came from eh.
However, the Sea Shepherd captain has shown no interest in going back for his compatriots that he aided initially so well.
Apparently that aid has a time limit applied which has now expired, and now the Australian taxpayer may have to foot the bill to 'rescue' these idiots.

Liberals support the Greens in Labor sending a ship down to observe and document the illegal activities of the butcherers.

How much do Liberals think this will cost in Taxes?

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Reply #88 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 10:53am

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Given that it was an 8000lb (3600kg) animal....exactly what could they do???...

Size has nothing to do with it. They had time to do something. They could have used an electric prod or shot it or harpooned it and hauled it off. This isn't the first time. They should have an incident protocol in place that doesn't mean stand around and gape.

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Reply #89 - Jan 10^th, 2012 at 11:01am

Grey wrote on Jan 10^th, 2012 at 10:53am:

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Given that it was an 8000lb (3600kg) animal....exactly what could they do???...

Size has nothing to do with it. They had time to do something. They could have used an electric prod or shot it or harpooned it and hauled it off. This isn't the first time. They should have an incident protocol in place that doesn't mean stand around and gape.

But one of the trainers did dive in and attempt to rescue her...
And I doubt that an aquarium has harpoons or rifles standing by at the show pool...

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