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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106935 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Stay of execution for Ford until 2016 Reply #30 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:26am Andrei, Quote: We were able to claim both $77m+ in P3 R&D Grants and the R&D Tax Concession. I was in charge of the accounting submission and working with the tax team to do it. Andre, Is that the same company where you are the vice president?
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Stay of execution for Ford until 2016 Reply #31 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:27am No Bobby. And if you understood how multi-nationals work you would understand VP is a title and there are about 250 of them in the company. It's the next one up from Director and lower than Exec VP. It's a layer in the corporate structure. You don't have one Vice President.
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Reply #32 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:28am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:20am:

You can get a stingy 125% R&D tax concession but then you have to employ an accountant to work it all out for you and so you end up losing money on the accountants fees. My accountant said it wasn't really worth it and was a gimmick Sad

We had 3 from the APAC Tax Team working on ours and we got everything back.
It was worth it.

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Reply #33 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:30am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:27am:

No Bobby.

And if you understood how multi-nationals work you would understand VP is a title and there are about 250 of them in the company.

It's the next one up from Director and lower than Exec VP.

It's a layer in the corporate structure.

You don't have one Vice President.

Andrei,
Vice President is a name referring to one person.
You can't have 250 vice presidents.
What a crock of s...
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Reply #34 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:34am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty

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Mitty is a meek, mild man with a vivid fantasy life: in a few dozen paragraphs he imagines himself a wartime pilot, an emergency-room surgeon, and a devil-may-care killer. The character's name has come into more general use to refer to an ineffectual dreamer, appearing in several dictionaries.[2] The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Walter Mitty as "an ordinary, often ineffectual person who indulges in fantastic daydreams of personal triumphs".[3] The most famous of Thurber's inept male protagonists, the character is considered "the archetype for dreamy, hapless, Thurber Man".[4]

Although the story has humorous elements, there is a darker and more significant message underlying the text, leading to a more tragic interpretation of the Mitty character. Even in his heroic daydreams, Mitty does not triumph, several fantasies being interrupted before the final one sees Mitty dying bravely in front of a firing squad. In the brief snatches of reality that punctuate Mitty's fantasies the audience meets well-meaning but insensitive strangers who inadvertently rob Mitty of some of his remaining dignity.

Hi Nail,
Does this remind you of anyone?

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Reply #35 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:36am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:30am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:27am:

No Bobby.

And if you understood how multi-nationals work you would understand VP is a title and there are about 250 of them in the company.

It's the next one up from Director and lower than Exec VP.

It's a layer in the corporate structure.

You don't have one Vice President.

Andrei,
Vice President is a name referring to one person.
You can't have 250 vice presidents.
What a crock of s...
Grin

You don't think you can have Vice Presidents of each department?
Have you ever worked in a multi-national and looked at the structure?

Deutsche Bank for example has close to 300 Vice Presidents.

I think you are confusing a political VP and a structure of a Corporation.

Finance & Accounting alone has 12 VP's in my company.

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Reply #36 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:36am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:30am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:27am:

No Bobby.

And if you understood how multi-nationals work you would understand VP is a title and there are about 250 of them in the company.

It's the next one up from Director and lower than Exec VP.

It's a layer in the corporate structure.

You don't have one Vice President.

Andrei,
Vice President is a name referring to one person.
You can't have 250 vice presidents.
What a crock of s...
Grin

VP of marketing, VP of finance, VP of operations, VP of Asia, VP of Australia, VP of Europe, VP of US, VP of West Coast Operations.

And so on and so on.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Stay of execution for Ford until 2016 Reply #37 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:37am You really need to read a little bit more about how a multi-national is structure Bobby before you make a greater fool of yourself. How many Vice Presidents do you think a company has? I'll pick a random US Listed multi-national. Medtronic Inc (NYSE: MDT) - how many VP's do you think it has? One?
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Reply #38 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:39am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

You really need to read a little bit more about how a multi-national is structure Bobby before you make a greater fool of yourself.

How many Vice Presidents do you think a company has?

I'll pick a random US Listed multi-national.

Medtronic Inc (NYSE: MDT) - how many VP's do you think it has?
One?

The company I work in has about 12,000 employees & one Vice President.

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Reply #39 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:41am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

You really need to read a little bit more about how a multi-national is structure Bobby before you make a greater fool of yourself.

How many Vice Presidents do you think a company has?

I'll pick a random US Listed multi-national.

Medtronic Inc (NYSE: MDT) - how many VP's do you think it has?
One?

The company I work in has about 12,000 employees & one Vice President.

Oz seems to treat their terms and rankings much differently.

In there seems to be plenty of "Directors" eg Director of Finance, which I find amusing considering none of them are elected to the Board of Directors as such.

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Reply #40 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:41am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

You really need to read a little bit more about how a multi-national is structure Bobby before you make a greater fool of yourself.

How many Vice Presidents do you think a company has?

I'll pick a random US Listed multi-national.

Medtronic Inc (NYSE: MDT) - how many VP's do you think it has?
One?

The company I work in has about 12,000 employees & one Vice President.

So what?
You think all multi-nationals are structured that way?

I asked you? Do you think Medtronic would have 1 VP?

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Reply #41 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:42am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

You really need to read a little bit more about how a multi-national is structure Bobby before you make a greater fool of yourself.

How many Vice Presidents do you think a company has?

I'll pick a random US Listed multi-national.

Medtronic Inc (NYSE: MDT) - how many VP's do you think it has?
One?

Surely it must be called something else otherwise there is too much confusion. What about deputy ?? LOL

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Reply #42 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:43am

Verge wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

You really need to read a little bit more about how a multi-national is structure Bobby before you make a greater fool of yourself.

How many Vice Presidents do you think a company has?

I'll pick a random US Listed multi-national.

Medtronic Inc (NYSE: MDT) - how many VP's do you think it has?
One?

The company I work in has about 12,000 employees & one Vice President.

Oz seems to treat their terms and rankings much differently.

In there seems to be plenty of "Directors" eg Director of Finance, which I find amusing considering none of them are elected to the Board of Directors as such.

Technically a Director should be entitled to a Director fee - which I would bet a pound to a dollar none of them get.

VP is merely a title in US Listed organizations - mine is Assoc VP. There are three VP titles -

Assoc VP
VP
Exec VP

The Exec VPs are the real honchos - they are the $800k per annum guys who sit on the Excomm.

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Reply #43 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:43am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:37am:

You really need to read a little bit more about how a multi-national is structure Bobby before you make a greater fool of yourself.

How many Vice Presidents do you think a company has?

I'll pick a random US Listed multi-national.

Medtronic Inc (NYSE: MDT) - how many VP's do you think it has?
One?

The company I work in has about 12,000 employees & one Vice President.

So what?
You think all multi-nationals are structured that way?

I asked you? Do you think Medtronic would have 1 VP?

OK - Mr Vice President - or can I still call you Andrei?

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Reply #44 - Jan 12^th, 2012 at 10:46am

So here is Medtronic's Exec Committee Bobby.

There's 2 Exec VP's on this list.
7 Senior Vice Presidents.

Below that they would have regular Vice Presidents, where there would be too many to name
And below that there would be Associate Vice Presidents.

Learn a bit more about these things before posting.

MDT (NYSE)

MICHAEL J. COYLE
Executive Vice President and Group President, Cardiac and Vascular Group

CHRISTOPHER J. O’CONNELL
Executive Vice President and Group President, Restorative Therapies Group

H. JAMES DALLAS
Senior Vice President, Quality and Operations

GARY ELLIS
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

D. CAMERON FINDLAY
Senior Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary

RICHARD E. KUNTZ, M.D., M.Sc.
Senior Vice President and Chief Scientific, Clinical and Regulatory Officer

GEOFFREY S. MARTHA
Senior Vice President, Strategy and Business Development

STEPHEN N. OESTERLE, M.D.
Senior Vice President for Medicine and Technology

CAROLINE STOCKDALE
Senior Vice President, Human Resources

ROB TEN HOEDT
Senior Vice President & President, Medtronic Western Europe & Canada

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