Yadda wrote on Jan 13^th, 2012 at 1:02am:


You are a terrorist. I hope the federal police have obtained your IP address from Ozpolitics forum.

So it is true! They really did kill baby Jesus. How can we ever forgive them?

Jan wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 12:49am:

As if they don't already. Rudd was not pro-israel enough, so in comes pro-Israel Gillard.

Gillard arrives in Israel for talks

...She will be the first Rudd Government minister to meet with Mr Netanyahu since his government was sworn in earlier this year...

...Other scheduled appointments include a meeting with Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman.

Ms Gillard is scheduled to attend a gala dinner at the King David Hotel to open the first Australia-Israel leadership forum.

The forum is the initiative of prominent Melbourne businessman Albert Dadon who has modeled the forum on the successful Australia US leadership dialogue.

Also in attendance will be a handful of other Australian politicians including federal Liberal MPs Peter Costello, George Brandis, Christopher Pyne and Guy Barnett, and Labor MPs Mark Dreyfus and Michael Danby.

Ms Gillard's visit to Israel has prompted strong criticism, including calls for her to cancel the trip...

"We are strong friends and supporters of Israel...That will be my message in Israel. It's been my message at home," she said...

http://www.theage.com.au/national/gillard-arrives-in-israel-for-talks-20090622-ctx9.html



Within one year of meeting her Israeli masters, she was installed as Australian prime minister.

Rudd says abstain on Palestine vote; Gillard backs Israel

FOREIGN Minister Kevin Rudd wants Australia to abstain in a potentially explosive United Nations vote to recognise a Palestinian state, pitting him against Julia Gillard's declared strong support for Israel...

...But abstaining from any vote on Palestinian statehood would annoy Israel...

...Ms Gillard has made support for Israel one of her foreign policy priorities since toppling Mr Rudd for the leadership...

...Three prominent Jewish groups held talks in Canberra with Mr Rudd and Ms Gillard in early June to express opposition to the UN vote, which is expected in late September around the opening of the annual General Assembly.

The meetings - led by Executive Council of Australian Jewry president Danny Lamm, the Zionist Federation of Australia's Philip Chester and the Australia/Israel and Jewish Affairs Council's Jeremy Jones - were described as a presentation rather than lobbying...

...Labor switched Australia's vote on other key UN resolutions on the Israel-Palestine conflict in 2007, returning Australia to vote with the majority of the world in calling on Israel to abide by the Geneva Convention in the occupied territories

http://www.theage.com.au/national/rudd-says-abstain-on-palestine-vote-gillard-backs-israel-20110807-1ihrc.html

Gillard rebuffed Rudd on Palestine

ULIA Gillard rejected a plea from Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd for Australia to abstain in a vote on Palestine joining a key United Nations body, instead siding with Israel and the US to oppose the proposal.

Australia was one of 14 countries to vote against Palestine membership of the UN cultural organisation UNESCO this week, while close allies Britain, New Zealand and South Korea were among 52 to abstain...

...Ms Gillard has been a vocal supporter of Israel, including during the 2009 Gaza conflict, and declared maintaining strong backing for the Jewish state as one of her foreign policy priorities after toppling Mr Rudd...

http://www.theage.com.au/national/gillard-rebuffed-rudd-on-palestine-20111103-1mxyp.html

Jan wrote on Jan 29^th, 2012 at 4:07pm:


Here you go Jan there is a whole section on Zionist Jews and christian zionists at this website.

Just look at the top of the page i think it is near propaganda.

http://theunjustmedia.com

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:


Look closely it is there. The map shows 1947 land then skips to 1967... the last map is 2000 showing the lose of land in Gaza since 1967.

I didn't 'mention' it because it's irrelevant to the actual LOSS of land.

The Israelis never cease their land grab. Does it really matter how and when they lose it... If Australian land was being taken, would it matter to you how and when, while fighting to maintain what is legally and ethically yours to begin with?

Maybe this map will show bigger picture.

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:


No land changed it's borders just the control.

The map is correct

Six Day War ... From Wikipedia.

On June 5, 1967, in an overheated political atmosphere, weeks after Egypt blockaded the Straits of Tiran and cut off Israeli shipping, Israel launched an attack against Egypt, beginning the Six-Day War. It rapidly defeated the surrounding Arab states and took control of, among other areas, the Gaza Strip. International pressure mounted on Israel to withdraw from the territories. On November 22, 1967, the UN Security Council adopted UN Security Council Resolution 242, the "land for peace" formula, which called for Israeli withdrawal from territories it captured in 1967 in return for peace with its Arab neighbors.

In 1978, Israel and Egypt signed the historic Camp David Accords which brought an official end to the strife between them. The second part of the accords was a framework for the establishment of an autonomous regime in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Egypt thus signaled an end to any ambitions to control the Gaza Strip itself; from then on, the Gaza Strip's status would be discussed as part of the more general issue of proposals for a Palestinian state.

Jan wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 9:28pm:



... while others, who actually know what they are talking about, recognise it as a documenmt prepared by the Tsar's secret service, the KGB of the 1850s-60s.

It is only fantasists who still believe, depite tye load of evidenmce, that the Protocols is a real secret document that was, er, somhow, er, meant to be found by the , er, enemies of the Jews.

Those cunning jews, eh? They dominate the world but can't prevent a fvcken leak of their secret operations manual. How about that! And they are so cunning, that even though their most secret operations manual was leaked a150 year ago, they are still using it!!
Howzat for chutzpah, I ask you!?!?


Jan, you are one of tousands, millions. You have read yourself stupid.

Soren wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:


There was no Israel in 47 in any borders. There was just Zionist settlers and militias, roaming in some of the land, terrorising the inhabitants.

Are you saying, you'd reocgnise such people as being "peacefully existent" within the borders of about 2/3 of your country?

Soren wrote on Jan 30^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:


The only thing looking good is the Zionists going back to Russia and Poland. There are no 47 borders.