Soren wrote on Feb 1
st, 2012 at 9:02am:
My point is that the argy-bargy is not about territory or occupation or foreign rule. There have been lots of that around the world - see my examples of the most recent ones - and indeed in the Middle East and on the very spot that is now Israel. Nowhere else is there such carry on and there has never been such carry on by the Arabs themselves when they were under various non-Arab rule, whether in Palestine, which they invaded themselves or elsewhere.
BTW, the name Palesitine was given to, er, Jewdea by Hadrian in 135 ad, after he put down the second and final, er, Jewish revolt there.
Wrong he called it Syria Palaestina ... Before that it was Judea.
The region has been controlled by numerous different peoples, including the Ancient Egyptians, Canaanites, Ancient Israelites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Ancient Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, the Sunni Arab Caliphate, the Shia Fatimid Caliphate, the Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mameluks, Ottomans, the British and modern Israelis and Palestinians. Other terms for the same area include Canaan, Zion, the Land of Israel, Syria Palaestina, Southern Syria, Jund Filastin, Outremer, the Holy Land and the Southern Levant. Modern archaeologists and historians of the region refer to their field of study as Syro-Palestinian archaeology.
Read the full history of PALESTINE at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine
Quote:The only issue for the Arabs now, as always, the only reason they are unable to swallow this particular pill, is that it is a Jewish pill. They can't hack the simple fact that the Jews have come back and could not be bossed around like every other time and place in Muslim history. The Jews!!! Mohammed said there will be no peace until all the jews are killed, and now they are in their own country, a successful country, showing up the Muslim impotence and incompetence for the whole world to see. That is the pill the Muslims can't swallow. Anyone but the jews. If Israel survives, Mohammed was a liar. If Mohammed was a crazy meshugge, all Muslims are the same. So the jews in Israel are a fatal argument against Islam.
That's why Israel cannot be allowed to exist by the Muslims. It's not about the interests of Palesitinian Arabs (mistreated by every 'brother' Arab wherever they go) , it is about the jews.
Of course it's about the Jews (Zionists) because the Ashkenazis were never citizens or rulers of Judea (Syria Palaestina) the jews left the land, Arabs never did. The ONLY reason Jews managed to become Israelis with a state of their own was with the might and muscle of Britain and the US and brutal genocide and breaking treaties.
What you and your ilk refer to as "Muslim impotence and incompetence"
is nothing more than being beaten into submission by huge armies armed with the best modern weapons and funded by the US.
When Jews created the problem for Palestine, the Palestinians had no military so there goes your BS about
"invading themselves?". Not to mention the Palestinians had lived peacefully with the Jews who lived there, as well as with Christians, so that blows your BS about not being able to accept anything 'un-Muslim' out of the water.
You keep googling for your info and not following through from all sides and get it wrong every time. Typically a Jewish trait of only submitting what suits your own argument, rather than honesty (a dirty word to Zionists).
People like you are afraid of the truth so create your own truths ... you should read my signature.i