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Jan 20th, 2012 at 5:05am
 
The Hard Right wants Australians to run car on brown coal ...

How is that for stupid.

No wonder the coal-ilition is stagnating in primary vote.



Federal Liberal MP Craig Kelly, who represents Hughes in NSW

"Second, at the moment we are highly exposed to the risk of a global oil shock, but we in Australia have the ability to insulate ourselves by the development of coal liquefaction plants (coal to liquid oils technology).

"This is not pie in the sky. Germany used coal liquefaction during WWII to ensure oil supplies, the South Africans have used it for decades (brought on by sanctions), and the Chinese have opened a big plant as China, like Australia, has plenty of coal, but limited oil.

"Australia, with our abundant supplies of coal, is one of the few countries today where coal liquefaction makes economic sense.

"This is our national economic advantage, of which we must take advantage if we are doing to maintain our economic prosperity."

But the Gillard government has also embarked on the destruction of Australia's natural advantage with its introduction of the carbon dioxide tax from July 1.

Kelly argues that the international oil price makes coal-to-liquid-fuel technology viable and says there is substantially less polluting particulate matter in liquid fuel produced by such technology.

"Particulate matter kills. This is a huge issue in western Sydney which is being swept under the carpet," he says..

"The World Health Organisation has an upper recommended limit of a yearly average of 20 ug/m3 for Pm10 (a type of particulate matter). Europe has recently made a legally enforceable limit of 20 ug/m3 for a yearly average. Areas of western Sydney are sitting right on the yearly average of 20 ug/m3, and planned growth is likely to push us above this level."

He says Australia has no such yearly average limits. If we produced fuels from coal liquefaction we'd likely be able to keep under 20 ug/m3 in western Sydney.

Labor is ignoring the health of its heartland western Sydney constituents to pander to the Greens.

Kelly admits that coal liquefaction results in higher CO2 emissions than other fuels and says those whose faith tells them that CO2 is a satanic gas that must be cleansed from our world rather than being plant food -- or the gas that makes chardonnay into champagne -- think coal liquefaction is an evil.

"Therefore any report that provides evidence that we in Australia should be developing or even considering coal liquefaction plants is also an evil -- and must be destroyed, hence Report 117 disappears," he says.

Also, the upward-escalating CO2 tax kills off the economic viability of such plants in Australia.

We have an estimated 200 billion tonnes of brown coal reserves with the potential to produce an estimated 120 billion barrels of fuel oil, or 60 times as much as came out of Bass Strait back when Australia was self-sufficient in liquid fuels.

The Gillard government doesn't want you to know that we face a crisis and it certainly doesn't want you to know we hold the key to a solution.


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/all-evidence-of-this-treachery-wen...



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Reply #1 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:30am
 
Where does it say the Liberals want coal-powered cars? Do you just make this up as you go?
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Reply #2 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:52am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:30am:
Where does it say the Liberals want coal-powered cars? Do you just make this up as you go?


It doesn't.
Green only likes new technology when it suits.
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Reply #3 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:53am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:30am:
Where does it say the Liberals want coal-powered cars? Do you just make this up as you go?




woody is going to put a wind sail on his pedal car...he will thumb his nose at everyone.
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Reply #4 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:07am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:52am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:30am:
Where does it say the Liberals want coal-powered cars? Do you just make this up as you go?


It doesn't.
Green only likes new technology when it suits.




Paint the coal green.

Problem solved....Smiley
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Federal Liberal MP Craig Kelly, who represents Hughes in NSW

"Second, at the moment we are highly exposed to the risk of a global oil shock, but we in Australia have the ability to insulate ourselves by the development of coal liquefaction plants (coal to liquid oils technology).

"This is not pie in the sky. Germany used coal liquefaction during WWII to ensure oil supplies, the South Africans have used it for decades (brought on by sanctions), and the Chinese have opened a big plant as China, like Australia, has plenty of coal, but limited oil.

"Australia, with our abundant supplies of coal, is one of the few countries today where coal liquefaction makes economic sense.

"This is our national economic advantage, of which we must take advantage if we are doing to maintain our economic prosperity."

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Kelly argues that the international oil price makes coal-to-liquid-fuel technology viable and says there is substantially less polluting particulate matter in liquid fuel produced by such technology.

"Particulate matter kills. This is a huge issue in western Sydney which is being swept under the carpet," he says..


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We have an estimated 200 billion tonnes of brown coal reserves with the potential to produce an estimated 120 billion barrels of fuel oil, or 60 times as much as came out of Bass Strait back when Australia was self-sufficient in liquid fuels.



The Flinstones of the Conservatives want to take us back to brown coal.


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Reply #6 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:10am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:52am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:30am:
Where does it say the Liberals want coal-powered cars? Do you just make this up as you go?


It doesn't.
Green only likes new technology when it suits.




What new technology ... Liquefying Brown Coal to Gas

New, compared to inventing the wheel?


Yabba Dabba Doooooo !
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Reply #7 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:11am
 
cods wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:53am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:30am:
Where does it say the Liberals want coal-powered cars? Do you just make this up as you go?




woody is going to put a wind sail on his pedal car...he will thumb his nose at everyone.



Hydrogen from algie luv

Electricity from solar thermal electricity

etc etc


Meanwhile the conservatives solution to Peak Oil ... speeding up AGW.


dumbasses.
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Reply #8 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:12am
 
____ wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:10am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:52am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:30am:
Where does it say the Liberals want coal-powered cars? Do you just make this up as you go?


It doesn't.
Green only likes new technology when it suits.




What new technology ... Liquefying Brown Coal to Gas

New, compared to inventing the wheel?


Yabba Dabba Doooooo !




sort of new like wind and the sun you lot have just invented you mean..Fred and Barny will be delighted
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Reply #9 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:18am
 
cods wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:12am:
____ wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:10am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:52am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:30am:
Where does it say the Liberals want coal-powered cars? Do you just make this up as you go?


It doesn't.
Green only likes new technology when it suits.




What new technology ... Liquefying Brown Coal to Gas

New, compared to inventing the wheel?


Yabba Dabba Doooooo !




sort of new like wind and the sun you lot have just invented you mean..Fred and Barny will be delighted



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Germany used coal liquefaction during WWII to ensure oil supplies, the South Africans have used it for decades (brought on by sanctions)



Back to the Future with The Flintone Conservatives.

What next, conservatives will have us living in flinstone caves without electricity
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Reply #10 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:19am
 
the green-goober remains just as idiotic as ever. Imagine becoming self-sufficient on oil because of this. Maybe it is actually a great idea! and the fact the greens hate it makes it sounds even better since they only ever oppose good ideas.
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Reply #11 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:22am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:19am:
the green-goober remains just as idiotic as ever. Imagine becoming self-sufficient on oil because of this. Maybe it is actually a great idea! and the fact the greens hate it makes it sounds even better since they only ever oppose good ideas.



So the Coal-CSG-ilition wants to destroy our ability for food security via our dirty brown coal.

Why are Coal-CSG-ition so anti Australian families being able to feed themselves?
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Reply #12 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:27am
 
____ wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:22am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:19am:
the green-goober remains just as idiotic as ever. Imagine becoming self-sufficient on oil because of this. Maybe it is actually a great idea! and the fact the greens hate it makes it sounds even better since they only ever oppose good ideas.



So the Coal-CSG-ilition wants to destroy our ability for food security via our dirty brown coal.

Why are Coal-CSG-ition so anti Australian families being able to feed themselves?


gotta love those humungous leaps of yours...  being flogged mercilessly by your political superiors (libs) must still hurt. NSW last year QLD this year, Federally this year or next.

you are doomed to irrelevancy. get used to it.
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Reply #13 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:30am
 
In any case how wonderful the Australian Greens, hold the balance of power in the senate.  A very good insurance policy  Smiley
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Reply #14 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:35am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:19am:
the green-goober remains just as idiotic as ever. Imagine becoming self-sufficient on oil because of this. Maybe it is actually a great idea! and the fact the greens hate it makes it sounds even better since they only ever oppose good ideas.




I am waiting for the water into oil magic ...like the planes flying on algae I have forgotton who it was that claimed it was only a matter of time before planes would be flying on green moss..he believed it..

what about sugar cane wasnt that also going to save the brave new  world.

we have been through wind up.. and rubber bands..and now its wind and sun...the greens have all out problems solved......I wonder if they use the wheel wasnt that invented by the caveman????.. so stoneage.,
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