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Gillard - my thoughts
Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:28am
 
Everyone has seen Gillard's betrayal of the Australian people when she promised no carbon tax prior to the election and then declared it was essential to our future after the election in a deal with the Greens to form a minority government. Such actions demonstrate a severe lack of trustworthiness in her character.

Now we have seen Andrew Wilkie effectively sent up the creek without a paddle thanks to the elevation to Speaker by Peter Slipper, giving Gillard a much-needed boost in numbers - albeit by one. This was one of the other deals Gillard made with Independents to form a minority government. Again, not a great display of trustworthiness.

Maybe Gillard has gone back on her word because she doesn't think these laws are in our national interest. Maybe she made those deals to win office at any cost because she honestly believed she was the person best-suited to lead our country. Who knows what her reasons are. Rob Oakeshott now has ample reason to question his alliance with Gillard and must be wondering if he is next on her hit-list of deals to be broken.

Everyone knows politicians lie and manipulate to win. Gillard has taken that to a whole new - and very public - level. Even staunch ALP supporters should pause to reconsider their support for one of the most deceitful, dishonest and untrustworthy politicians this country has ever had - certainly one of the most incompetent!

One thing is for sure, however. Gillard cannot be trusted at all. Not now, not ever - on anything. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. That much has been made abundantly clear.
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Reply #1 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:51am
 
the Wilkie deal and backflip doesnt make either of them look exactly pristine to me at any rate...

all the pompous posturing by Wilkie looks exactly like what it is posturing..he wont even be there in 2016 and everyone knows that..as for many of the promises and predictions from anyone in this govt actually coming to pass....excuse me whilst i have a good laugh. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

tears for the money we will never see that has gone down the drains... Cry.

tears for the lies. Cry

tears for the false WE CARE.. Cry

tears for the time wasted on something that was never going to happen Cry

the plotting and planning that went into the Jenkins debacle.. Cry Cry

it shows how clever and deceitful this govt is..

" trust" that is something they will never have. Cry
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Reply #2 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:00am
 
Integrity - something I believe every PM should have. Howard had it in bucket loads. Even that twit Rudd was more honest than Gillard, despite being terminally cranky and incompetent. Gillard has dug her own grave for the next election. Now she's dug it a bit deeper for good measure. She's not going to win and I'll be suprised if she holds her seat.

As for Wilkie, he's weak. Sure, his withdrawal of support for Gillard would have little effect to the point of being merely symbolic - but at least he'd have kept his word. Obviously he hopes to be able to continue to have influence over other things before he is kicked out at the next election when not even the best preferences deals will save him this time.
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Reply #3 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:02am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:28am:
One thing is for sure, however. Gillard cannot be trusted at all. Not now, not ever - on anything. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. That much has been made abundantly clear.


You have to remember that the filth known as Australian politicians will say and do anything in order to a) get elected, b) be part of the government. It's all about having the numbers to occupy the treasury benches. The perquisites of office are tantalising. Getting your ample arse on one of those big Qantas jets is just the start of the goodies on offer.

Australian politicians are nothing but vile, putrid, disgusting, noisome, filthy, objectionable and corrupt alleged people that you will ever meet.
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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!
 
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Reply #4 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:06am
 
salad in wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:02am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:28am:
One thing is for sure, however. Gillard cannot be trusted at all. Not now, not ever - on anything. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. That much has been made abundantly clear.


You have to remember that the filth known as Australian politicians will say and do anything in order to a) get elected, b) be part of the government. It's all about having the numbers to occupy the treasury benches. The perquisites of office are tantalising. Getting your ample arse on one of those big Qantas jets is just the start of the goodies on offer.

Australian politicians are nothing but vile, putrid, disgusting, noisome, filthy, objectionable and corrupt alleged people that you will ever meet.


Not true. Look at Howard. He at least had the courage and integrity to take the issue of the GST to an election. Gillard has lied, back-stabbed and manipulated her way through her time as PM. Look at Rudd - she backed him publicly right up until the moment she plunged the knife into his back.
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Reply #5 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:10am
 
salad in wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:02am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 6:28am:
One thing is for sure, however. Gillard cannot be trusted at all. Not now, not ever - on anything. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her. That much has been made abundantly clear.


You have to remember that the filth known as Australian politicians will say and do anything in order to a) get elected, b) be part of the government. It's all about having the numbers to occupy the treasury benches. The perquisites of office are tantalising. Getting your ample arse on one of those big Qantas jets is just the start of the goodies on offer.

Australian politicians are nothing but vile, putrid, disgusting, noisome, filthy, objectionable and corrupt alleged people that you will ever meet.




no I dont agree with tarring all with the same brush..you need to open your mind a bit more..

every party has its THOMOS or SLippers.. its how they deal with them that is the point..

I mean people who let the Party and therefore the people down.
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:06am:
Not true. Look at Howard. He at least had the courage and integrity to take the issue of the GST to an election.


Reacquaint yourself with the national debate in the lead-up to the GST and you will see what I mean. What was it that Howard said?

While you're in the time machine how did Howard deal with the very Honorable Warren Entsch, the MP with the failing memory? Balance up what Entsch said which indicated his poor memory with the fact that every Thursday he managed to navigate a safe passage to the pay office. Failing memory? I think not.

Get back to me with the details.
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Reply #7 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:15am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:00am:
Integrity - something I believe every PM should have. Howard had it in bucket loads.


This glorication of Howard has got to stop.  He was one of the most sneaky underhanded politicians ever to grace parliment. He was nicknamed "Honest John" by his fellow ministers in a sarcastic way.

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Reply #8 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:21am
 
Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:15am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:00am:
Integrity - something I believe every PM should have. Howard had it in bucket loads.


This glorication of Howard has got to stop.  He was one of the most sneaky underhanded politicians ever to grace parliment. He was nicknamed "Honest John" by his fellow ministers in a sarcastic way.





if you say so.. you wont mind if we stop glorifying Keating and rudd and gillard will you?
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Reply #9 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 9:58am
 
cods wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:21am:
Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:15am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:00am:
Integrity - something I believe every PM should have. Howard had it in bucket loads.


This glorication of Howard has got to stop.  He was one of the most sneaky underhanded politicians ever to grace parliment. He was nicknamed "Honest John" by his fellow ministers in a sarcastic way.





if you say so.. you wont mind if we stop glorifying Keating and rudd and gillard will you?


I've never known you to glorify Keating, Rudd or Gillard cods. When did that happen?? I must've missed it. Huh Huh
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Reply #10 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 10:01am
 
Gist wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 9:58am:
cods wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:21am:
Doctor Jolly wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:15am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:00am:
Integrity - something I believe every PM should have. Howard had it in bucket loads.


This glorication of Howard has got to stop.  He was one of the most sneaky underhanded politicians ever to grace parliment. He was nicknamed "Honest John" by his fellow ministers in a sarcastic way.





if you say so.. you wont mind if we stop glorifying Keating and rudd and gillard will you?


I've never known you to glorify Keating, Rudd or Gillard cods. When did that happen?? I must've missed it. Huh Huh





i was talking in the forgotten what its called..LOL>. but I wasnt referring to myself  just like dr jolly.,.

it means on the boards in general... hero worship that isnt justified according to some..

its okay if you dont understand that gist we all make allowances. Cheesy
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Reply #11 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 3:09pm
 
salad in wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:32am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 7:06am:
Not true. Look at Howard. He at least had the courage and integrity to take the issue of the GST to an election.


Reacquaint yourself with the national debate in the lead-up to the GST and you will see what I mean. What was it that Howard said?

While you're in the time machine how did Howard deal with the very Honorable Warren Entsch, the MP with the failing memory? Balance up what Entsch said which indicated his poor memory with the fact that every Thursday he managed to navigate a safe passage to the pay office. Failing memory? I think not.

Get back to me with the details.


Howard was against the GST at first then changed his mind. However, the difference between him and Gillard is that he took his plans to an election, whereas Gillard deceived everyone to win office. Why is that so difficult for you Laborites to comprehend?
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Reply #12 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 3:14pm
 
They all suck....Kevin Rudd possibly has some integrity but he had no balls when Abbott stood over him he caved in and was rolled by a woman.....Australia deserves better than the people who are leading ther nation at the moment.....Steve Smith for the ALP and Malcolm Turnbull for the Coalition.....The Greens deserve Bob Brown as he is the perfect person to lead their rabble!!!

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