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Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:49am
 
AMBULANCE Victoria has slashed paramedic staffing levels by more than 2200 shifts in 16 months, a move union officials say risks lives.   Sad

Paramedics say Ambulance Victoria tried to cover up the rampant cost-cutting by forcing them to create ''ghost crews'' - ambulances that are logged into a central database, but sit empty with no staff to drive them.   Sad

The figures, released to the Ambulance Employees Association under freedom-of-information laws, show an average of almost 32 shifts a week were cut between July 2010 and November last year.


A paramedic, who did not wish to be named, said patients had a right to feel betrayed if an ambulance was delayed because of a cancelled shift.   

''The community thinks an ambulance is going to be there when they need it, but it's impossible if there's no crew,'' he said.

''The figures don't look good, but the real issue is when someone's dying and there's no ambulance available for an hour.''   Angry

Ambulance union Victorian general secretary Steve McGhie said Ambulance Victoria had repeatedly let staff numbers fall dangerously low across the state. He said duty managers tried to ''fudge the figures'' by asking paramedics to leave mobile data terminals, which are only in metropolitan ambulances, switched on at the end of their shifts.

Ambulance Victoria denied the ''ghost shifts'' allegation, but Mr McGhie said members told the union that management regularly asked them to leave their terminals on.

''It's damning that Ambulance Victoria has dropped this many shifts. There's no doubt it's endangered lives,'' Mr McGhie said.   Shocked  Shocked  Shocked     

''The figures mean that some towns and some suburbs routinely had no ambulance, despite paramedics being available to work.

''And they try to make the figures look better on a daily basis by asking paramedics to stay logged on after their shift.''

More shifts were cancelled in the metropolitan area, 760, than in any other Ambulance Victoria region. The Hume region, which includes Shepparton, Wodonga, Wangaratta and Seymour, had 383 cancellations, the most in country Victoria. In a 2010 Auditor-General's report Hume was found to have the worst ambulance response times in Victoria.

Ambulance Victoria regional services general manager Tony Walker said the service tried to ensure paramedics were rostered to each shift.

He said more than 150,000 shifts were rostered each year, with extra shifts designated for major events and busy periods.

''Like any one else, paramedics are human and they get sick,'' he said. ''We explore all options to fill those vacancies including offering overtime. However, if no one volunteers for that shift then it is not filled.

''The best way to minimise dropped shifts is by more paramedics, and we have 268 new paramedics currently in the process of starting work at branches with 90 of those commencing over the past two months. We will continue to work with government to ensure that our recruitment levels match our needs.''

A spokesman for Health Minister David Davis said the government would spend $151 million recruiting 340 additional ambulance staff and $16 million building more ambulance stations to turn around ''Labor's mismanagement''.

Opposition health spokesman Gavin Jennings said the ambulance service was underfunded.   Sad

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/ambulances-left-idle-as-staff-levels-slashed-20120119-1q8eu.html#ixzz1jwivJYBl
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Reply #1 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 8:55am
 
You missed a fact (as you usually do). this cutback began under the previous LABOR govt, you mindless hack.
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So fix it now then.   Sad
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Let's be up front about this, I know people are very sick, but just because a person is sick doesn't necessarily mean that they need ambulances.

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Reply #4 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 9:15am
 
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Let's be up front about this, I know people are very sick, but just because a person is sick doesn't necessarily mean that they need ambulances.

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have you ever used an ambulance... they are only for the real poor people..like myself a pensioner

the c ost of an ambulance is prohibitive..and it wouldnt matter who was in govt.... stop blaming the govt..start looking at the cost of running just about everything in this country..the unions have the upper hand.. and they are driving nails in everything in this country
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Reply #5 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 9:19am
 
I always thought ambulances were for ANYONE that needed it.  Rich or poor, young or old.   Sad
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I always thought ambulances were for ANYONE that needed it.  Rich or poor, young or old.   Sad




have you used one lately??????????????????????

my grandaughter travelled in one for about 1.5.ks.. $700
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Reply #7 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 9:30am
 
One of course does hope that they will never need an ambulance.  Then again, you just never know.  Although it would be good if you do need one, to know the system works properly.   Wink
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Reply #8 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 9:32am
 
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One of course does hope that they will never need an ambulance.  Then again, you just never know.  Although it would be good if you do need one, to know the system works properly.   Wink


You really do add nothing to a debate.

Just a mindless union drone who is on the dole.
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So what is the debate?.  Peoples lives are in danger with the lousy system.  The Liberals are in power in Victoria.  So its up to them to fix it.   Wink
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cods wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 9:15am:
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Let's be up front about this, I know people are very sick, but just because a person is sick doesn't necessarily mean that they need ambulances.

Vote one Liberal




have you ever used an ambulance... they are only for the real poor people..like myself a pensioner

the c ost of an ambulance is prohibitive..and it wouldnt matter who was in govt.... stop blaming the govt..start looking at the cost of running just about everything in this country..the unions have the upper hand.. and they are driving nails in everything in this country



So, whats the answer, less wages
for ambulance staff ?


btw, my above quote was a based on a copy of Abbott's words to a dying man. which I will never let of the hook for and can only show what type of mentality or empathy ,Abbott has.
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Reply #11 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 9:42am
 
btw, my above quote was a based on a copy of Abbott's words to a dying man. which I will never let of the hook for and can only show what type of mentality or empathy ,Abbott has.


We are all dying num nuts.

It's only a matter of time.
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Reply #12 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 10:53am
 
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cods wrote on Jan 20th, 2012 at 9:15am:
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Let's be up front about this, I know people are very sick, but just because a person is sick doesn't necessarily mean that they need ambulances.

Vote one Liberal




have you ever used an ambulance... they are only for the real poor people..like myself a pensioner

the c ost of an ambulance is prohibitive..and it wouldnt matter who was in govt.... stop blaming the govt..start looking at the cost of running just about everything in this country..the unions have the upper hand.. and they are driving nails in everything in this country



So, whats the answer, less wages
for ambulance staff ?



btw, my above quote was a based on a copy of Abbott's words to a dying man. which I will never let of the hook for and can only show what type of mentality or empathy ,Abbott has.




typical.!!!! reaction from the left...

... how about better management..[ dont tell me you really believe this govt is good at management???..] oh gawd...

how about less bureaucracy.. less chiefs and more indians.. in other words..

how about more and better accountability????..

that would stun Labor we know... but something needs to be said about their appalling waste and mismanagement..

dont tell me all this pokermachine crap hasnt cost us a fortune!!!for bugger all so far.
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Reply #13 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 12:17pm
 
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AMBULANCE Victoria has slashed paramedic staffing levels by more than 2200 shifts in 16 months, a move union officials say risks lives.   Sad

Paramedics say Ambulance Victoria tried to cover up the rampant cost-cutting by forcing them to create ''ghost crews'' - ambulances that are logged into a central database, but sit empty with no staff to drive them.   Sad

The figures, released to the Ambulance Employees Association under freedom-of-information laws, show an average of almost 32 shifts a week were cut between July 2010 and November last year.


A paramedic, who did not wish to be named, said patients had a right to feel betrayed if an ambulance was delayed because of a cancelled shift.   

''The community thinks an ambulance is going to be there when they need it, but it's impossible if there's no crew,'' he said.

''The figures don't look good, but the real issue is when someone's dying and there's no ambulance available for an hour.''   Angry

Ambulance union Victorian general secretary Steve McGhie said Ambulance Victoria had repeatedly let staff numbers fall dangerously low across the state. He said duty managers tried to ''fudge the figures'' by asking paramedics to leave mobile data terminals, which are only in metropolitan ambulances, switched on at the end of their shifts.

Ambulance Victoria denied the ''ghost shifts'' allegation, but Mr McGhie said members told the union that management regularly asked them to leave their terminals on.

''It's damning that Ambulance Victoria has dropped this many shifts. There's no doubt it's endangered lives,'' Mr McGhie said.   Shocked  Shocked  Shocked     

''The figures mean that some towns and some suburbs routinely had no ambulance, despite paramedics being available to work.

''And they try to make the figures look better on a daily basis by asking paramedics to stay logged on after their shift.''

More shifts were cancelled in the metropolitan area, 760, than in any other Ambulance Victoria region. The Hume region, which includes Shepparton, Wodonga, Wangaratta and Seymour, had 383 cancellations, the most in country Victoria. In a 2010 Auditor-General's report Hume was found to have the worst ambulance response times in Victoria.

Ambulance Victoria regional services general manager Tony Walker said the service tried to ensure paramedics were rostered to each shift.

He said more than 150,000 shifts were rostered each year, with extra shifts designated for major events and busy periods.

''Like any one else, paramedics are human and they get sick,'' he said. ''We explore all options to fill those vacancies including offering overtime. However, if no one volunteers for that shift then it is not filled.

''The best way to minimise dropped shifts is by more paramedics, and we have 268 new paramedics currently in the process of starting work at branches with 90 of those commencing over the past two months. We will continue to work with government to ensure that our recruitment levels match our needs.''

A spokesman for Health Minister David Davis said the government would spend $151 million recruiting 340 additional ambulance staff and $16 million building more ambulance stations to turn around ''Labor's mismanagement''.

Opposition health spokesman Gavin Jennings said the ambulance service was underfunded.   Sad

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/ambulances-left-idle-as-staff-levels-slashed-20120119-1q8eu.html#ixzz1jwivJYBl


Federal Labor is too busy wasting money than to give the states what they require in GST funding to maintain service levels.
The states have no choice but to cut back.
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Reply #14 - Jan 20th, 2012 at 3:15pm
 
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So fix it now then.   Sad


Yeah, it's that simple. Just fix it. Yeah, in NSW Barry O'Farrell will just fix 16 years of ALP neglect, corruption and incompetence basically overnight and everything will be hunky-dory despite there being precious little remaining in the bank for him to work with. Similar story in Victoria. Like a cyclone, the ALP leaves a trail of destruction that takes years to clean up. Then another one hits...
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