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Iteresting Islamic Fact
Jan 29th, 2012 at 12:25am
 
I reminisced about the Belsan atrocity today wondering how a religious organization could even contemplate such a heinous crime against children.
Yes they were Muslim.
Yes they followed Islam.
Do we in the west have to look forward to this kind of barbaric act.
Should we outlaw the cult of Islam?

crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/beslan-child-rape-torture-enforced.html
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Reply #1 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 12:34am
 
yes 

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Reply #2 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:08am
 
"Religious organisation"?

The hostage takers were motivated by the Russian genocide in their country.

Prior to the Beslan siege, the Russians destroyed the capital of Chechnya, Grozny.

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Chechen Kids killed By Russians Long Before Beslan

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It should be noted that witnesses have said that the Russians fired on the first in the seige of Beslan.
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Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:25am
 
falah wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:08am:
"Religious organisation"?

The hostage takers were motivated by the Russian genocide in their country.





But the 'hostage takers' were NOT motivated by Jihad 'operations' and ISLAM.
....THAT is the implication, of your claim.



falah,
If that is correct, then why did the 'hostage takers' yell;   
"Allahu Akhbar"
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“The terrorists ran in yelling, 'Allahu Akhbar,' ”



Google;
beslan, allah akbar



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:37am
 
falah,


And all of those images, of all those dead children which you presented to us ???

Surely, you approve of their sacrifice ?





"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb.


cited again here.....

Quote:


June 26, 2006
The roots of Islamism
".....Islamists believe in the re-ordering of society to secure total submission to a narrow, puritan and fundamentalist interpretation of Islam......


That cleansing process must be accomplished by suicidal violence,



because, in the words of Islamism's most influential thinker, Sayyid Qutb, "the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood.".....



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/michael_gove/article679544.e...




“ 'Allahu Akhbar,' ”


....falah.





Google;
beslan, allah akbar


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Reply #5 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:51am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:25am:
falah wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:08am:
"Religious organisation"?

The hostage takers were motivated by the Russian genocide in their country.





But the 'hostage takers' were NOT motivated by Jihad 'operations' and ISLAM.
....THAT is the implication, of your claim.



falah,
If that is correct, then why did the 'hostage takers' yell;   
"Allahu Akhbar"
   ???



Well, if you read it in the Daily Mail it must be true?

So George Bush must have been

God told me to invade, says Bush


US PRESIDENT George Bush has said that he was instructed by God to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a new BBC series.

The claim comes from the first meeting between the US leader, the Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (also known as Abu Mazen), and his then foreign minister in June 2003.

The ministers say that Mr Bush also revealed to them that he had been told by God to create a Palestinian state.

Former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath, now the Information Minister, describes the meeting with the US leader, in the BBC2 program, Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs.

He says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God'.

"God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq . . .' And I did...

http://www.theage.com.au/news/iraq/god-told-me-to-invade-says-bush/2005/10/07/1128562952070.html




...he apparently confided in a Texan evangelist, James Robinson, that he had a premonition of national tragedy. "I feel like God wants me to run for president. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen," Mr Bush said. "I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."...

...Mr Bush spoke of a "crusade" against the country's enemies. The word was quickly expunged from the presidential vocabulary, but it appeared to echo a religious sense of mission in Mr Bush's mind. In his state of the union address two years later, he suggested that his pre-emptive foreign policy doctrine was also divinely inspired.

"This call of history has come to the right country," he said. "The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity.'...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/usa.georgebush






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Reply #6 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:19pm
 
Falah, you obviously did not read the article or you would have noticed that the sub human scum that perpetrated these atrocities did so to young people under the age of any wrong doing. They shoved the barrels of their rifles into young girls vaginas and did such damage to their young bodies they would not survive even if taken to hospital immediately. Why did they take video evidence of pack rape and stab a baby of only 18 months of age.
WHY WAS A THIRD OF THE PERPATRATERS NOT FROM CHECHYN IF IT WERE PURELY TO DO WITH RUSSIA???

WHY WERE THEY FUNDED BY THE HOUSE OF SAUD???

You are only interested in defending the indefensible and your thought pattern appals me.

From your previous and numerous posts it is apparent to all that you believe the rape of young girls is an accepted part of your murderous cult and Muslims are allowed to do it to promote an erroneous disgusting belief system. In keeping with your perverted sense of justice read about 50 out of  56 rapes that were carried out by Muslims in the UK.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1374443/Police-hid-abuse-60-girls-Asian-takeaway-workers-linked-Charlene-Downes-murder.html#ixzz1JFicr6Qa

To all that may read this thread please go here        media.photobucket.com/image/beslan/Angerway/Beslan/Beslan092004.jpg?o=17#!oZZ1QQ
currentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fmedia.photobucket.com%2Fimage%2Fbeslan%2FAngerway%2FBeslan
%2FBeslan.jpg%3Fo%3D1 to see the true horror of Islam.
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Reply #7 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:23pm
 
Following your logic we should just about ban every single religion including christianity.
They are all dangerous.
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Reply #8 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:29pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:23pm:
Following your logic we should just about ban every single religion including christianity.
They are all dangerous.


Define "LOGIC" regarding Religion
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Reply #9 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:40pm
 
Adamant wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:29pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:23pm:
Following your logic we should just about ban every single religion including christianity.
They are all dangerous.


Define "LOGIC" regarding Religion
Well there is no logic in religion, but regarding religion you asked whether we should outlaw one because something bad happened in its name; which is the same for almost all mainstream religions.
Christian nations like the US and UK are easily the worst human rights offenders and murderers to this day but we don’t outlaw Christianity.
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Reply #10 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:09pm
 
Not to mention that this was not the first genocide Russians committed against the Chechens. During Stalin's years, the ENTIRE population of the countries of Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushetia were completely uprooted and force marched to Siberia.

And in fact the Russian genocides against these people stretch back to the time of Catherine the "Great", when the entire Caucus region was almost completely wiped free of Muslims, millions dying in the process.

The Russians have been brutalising these people for centuries, and it has not ceased. To then complain when they finally hit back like in Beslan, and claim Muslims are the brutal ones is just ridiculous. You're a feeble minded tool adamant.

That's doesn't excuse the taking of kids hostage, but when a nation's ARMED FORCES, ie. the official military of the country, march into your country and do it to your kids, would you be thinking rationally do you think???? What normal human being wouldn't go absolutely troppo after such inhuman onslaughts????

And as falah said, it's well known fact the Russian forces themselves were responsible for the majority of deaths there.

And the hostage takers were definitely mostly Caucasians, Putin tried to downplay the fact, originally claiming they were mostly Arabs, because he didn't want to admit that it was an obvious retaliation for the inhuman atrocities his thugs has been committing in their country. He also wanted to try and link it to "International terrorism" to rally the acceptance of the West for his actions in the Caucus.

Also what you fail to mention in your emotionally-charged drivel that you've presented as an argument, is that after the Mujahideen of the Caucus witnessed how low the Russians were willing to go to end the crisis (ie. shooting and gassing their own people), they completely banned all hostage taking missions after this.

And many of the different factions condemned this act as madness, although recognising the people had been driven out of their minds by the Russian inhumanities against the civilians of the Caucus.

It's really rich for people who have no qualms about completely obliterating an entire city of people, to then whinge about one single school. How many schools did the official Russian military obliterate in Grozny??? where's the sympathy and tears for them??? It doesn't exist does it? Because your argument is a load of bollocks, and you know it. You're a half witted simpleton, who can't even mount a half decent argument to save yourself.
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Reply #11 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 9:07pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:40pm:
Adamant wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:29pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:23pm:
Following your logic we should just about ban every single religion including christianity.
They are all dangerous.


Define "LOGIC" regarding Religion
Well there is no logic in religion, but regarding religion you asked whether we should outlaw one because something bad happened in its name; which is the same for almost all mainstream religions.
Christian nations like the US and UK are easily the worst human rights offenders and murderers to this day but we don’t outlaw Christianity.

You are incorrect when you say Christianity has killed more people than islam. Muslims have killed over 80 million Hindus in its thirst for wealth and slaves. Islam was the biggest slave trading nation on the planet. It is estimated that 11 million African slaves were transported to the Americas, only 5 % of which went to the USA .Of all slaves captured by Muslims and sent to Islamic lands most were women and used for sexual gratification The harem of Abdal Rahman III (912 - 961) in Cordoba (check out Spain for the slaughter of 3500 Jews in 1066) contained over 6,000 concubines! And the one in the Fatimid Palace in Cairo had twice as many . Male slaves were castrated. Have you noticed how pale the Arabs are? That is because they killed all of the offspring of black African slave women descent! Slavery was only abolished around 1960 in Saudi Arabia. 140 million Africans are estimated to have been enslaved by muslims over the centuries 80% of which died in transit to market. Muslims have been parasites for all of the centuries Islam has been around. Timure the lame made towers out of human skulls, of course he had them beheaded first in the morning so he could study the arts in the afternoon.
I have explained away only a small proportion of the deaths caused by Muslims you could possibly double the deaths by adding in invasions, oppression, starvation by high tax take and general disregard to other humans.

Hitler, Mao and Stalin would be in awe at the debauchery that the muslims have perpetrated on the western world since its conception by a man who went to caves had fits heard voices had an invisible jinn sit on his shoulder talking to him and him only telling him god has given him and him alone the right to kill maim slaughter rape steal and enslave all who chose not believe in that invisible piece of excrement called Allah.

Bertrand Russel said of Muslims “Arabic philosophy is not important as original thought. Men like Avicenna and Averroes are essentially commentators. Speaking generally, the views of the more scientific philosophers come from Aristotle and the Neo-Platonists in logic and metaphysics, from Galen in medicine, from Greek and Indian sources in mathematics and astronomy, and among mystics religious philosophy has also an admixture of old Persian beliefs. Writers in Arabic showed some originality in mathematics and in chemistry--in the latter case, as an incidental result of alchemical researches. Mohammedan civilization in its great days was admirable in the arts and in many technical ways, but it showed no capacity for independent speculation in theoretical matters”.

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Reply #12 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 9:48pm
 
You are forgetting the bloke who jumped of a building with feathers glued to his arms. Ask Abu about his great contribution to our understanding of flight.
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Reply #13 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 11:32pm
 
Adamant wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 9:07pm:
You are incorrect when you say Christianity has killed more people than islam. Muslims have killed over 80 million Hindus


Come on enough of the fantasies.

I can't believe the enemies of Islam are docile enough to drag out this nonsense, which did not have a single documented contemporary historical account, but was concocted by an American "historian" about 700-800 years after the supposed event took place. Or the other famous "evidence" for it, the name Hindu kush = slaughter hindus  Grin Grin Grin

With each post you just keep getting better don't you adamant. You certainly are adamant about something, whittling away your own credibility it seems.
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Reply #14 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 11:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 9:48pm:
You are forgetting the bloke who jumped of a building with feathers glued to his arms. Ask Abu about his great contribution to our understanding of flight.



Sorry Freediver
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