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Re: Islamic Tolerance in Egypt
Reply #15 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 9:00pm
 
Adamant wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:12am:
So this is freedom of religion in the perfect muslim state
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(AINA) -- A mob of over 3000 Muslims attacked Copts in the village of Kobry-el-Sharbat (el-Ameriya), Alexandria this afternoon. Coptic homes and shops were looted before being set ablaze. Two Copts and a Muslim were injured. The violence started after a rumor was spread that a Coptic man had an allegedly intimate photo of a Muslim woman on his mobile phone. The Coptic man, Mourad Samy Guirgis, surrendered to the police this morning morning for his protection.

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www.aina.org/news/20120127193942.htm


So what's wrong with picking on the Copts? Me and my muslim brothers love nothing more than to kick a bit of Xtian butt. I won't hide behind the usual 'Islam is a religion of peace' banner. I'm a violent muslim and my actions are inspired by the holy k'ran.
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Re: Islamic Tolerance in Egypt
Reply #16 - Feb 1st, 2012 at 9:07pm
 
salad in wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 9:00pm:
Adamant wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:12am:
So this is freedom of religion in the perfect muslim state
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(AINA) -- A mob of over 3000 Muslims attacked Copts in the village of Kobry-el-Sharbat (el-Ameriya), Alexandria this afternoon. Coptic homes and shops were looted before being set ablaze. Two Copts and a Muslim were injured. The violence started after a rumor was spread that a Coptic man had an allegedly intimate photo of a Muslim woman on his mobile phone. The Coptic man, Mourad Samy Guirgis, surrendered to the police this morning morning for his protection.

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www.aina.org/news/20120127193942.htm





This must be a news item from a Zionist Murdoch misinformation organ.
This was a peaceful Muslim demonstration for Christian rights, jointly sponsord by the Ayatollahs and the Muslim Brotherhood.

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Re: Islamic Tolerance in Egypt
Reply #17 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:40am
 
salad in wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 9:00pm:
Adamant wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:12am:
So this is freedom of religion in the perfect muslim state
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(AINA) -- A mob of over 3000 Muslims attacked Copts in the village of Kobry-el-Sharbat (el-Ameriya), Alexandria this afternoon. Coptic homes and shops were looted before being set ablaze. Two Copts and a Muslim were injured. The violence started after a rumor was spread that a Coptic man had an allegedly intimate photo of a Muslim woman on his mobile phone. The Coptic man, Mourad Samy Guirgis, surrendered to the police this morning morning for his protection.

[...]


www.aina.org/news/20120127193942.htm


So what's wrong with picking on the Copts? Me and my muslim brothers love nothing more than to kick a bit of Xtian butt. I won't hide behind the usual 'Islam is a religion of peace' banner. I'm a violent muslim and my actions are inspired by the holy k'ran.



I request that the moderators reveal all your usernames on this forum, and aan explanation as to why people are allowed multiple usernames on this forum.

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Re: Islamic Tolerance in Egypt
Reply #18 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:48am
 
falah wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:40am:
salad in wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 9:00pm:
Adamant wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:12am:
So this is freedom of religion in the perfect muslim state
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(AINA) -- A mob of over 3000 Muslims attacked Copts in the village of Kobry-el-Sharbat (el-Ameriya), Alexandria this afternoon. Coptic homes and shops were looted before being set ablaze. Two Copts and a Muslim were injured. The violence started after a rumor was spread that a Coptic man had an allegedly intimate photo of a Muslim woman on his mobile phone. The Coptic man, Mourad Samy Guirgis, surrendered to the police this morning morning for his protection.

[...]


www.aina.org/news/20120127193942.htm


So what's wrong with picking on the Copts? Me and my muslim brothers love nothing more than to kick a bit of Xtian butt. I won't hide behind the usual 'Islam is a religion of peace' banner. I'm a violent muslim and my actions are inspired by the holy k'ran.



I request that the moderators reveal all your usernames on this forum, and aan explanation as to why people are allowed multiple usernames on this forum.



LOL be ready for an embarrassing revelation Falah....and better start writing the apology now...
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Reply #19 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:05pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:47pm:
Sorry,
Do you have the MB policy on the sunni/shia killings?


Egypt does not have a substantial Shi-ite population, why would the MB in Egypt be concerned with Shi-ites?

Green represents Muslim. Blue represents Shi-ites.
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Soren wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:47pm:
Any interviews by MB leaders unequivocally condemning attacks by Muslim terrorists around the world?



Does Australia condemn Israeli atrocities in palestine?

Has the Labor or Liberal parties condemned the illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan?

Has the Labor or Liberal parties condemned the terrorist drone stikes by the Obama Administraion - most of the victims of which are civilians?

In answer to your question:


The Muslim Brotherhood Condemns Terrorist Attacks in India
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=18773


Muslim Brotherhood Condemns Attacks against Coptic Christians in Egypt
http://islamopediaonline.org/news/muslim-brotherhood-condemns-attacks-against-coptic-christians-egypt


Immediately after 9/11 attacks...the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) group condemned them, seeing them as totally divorced from any religion or creed, actions which are totally rejected by Islam.

http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?ID=14069&LevelID=1&SectionID=71
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Reply #20 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:33pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Does Australia condemn Israeli atrocities in palestine?





Killing 'unbelievers' [who resist ISLAM] = = good works.

And 'unbelievers' defending themselves, from homicidal attacks by moslems ???

Those actions, are atrocities against 'peace-loving' moslem 'freedom fighters'.






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That [previously stated] is the 'mentality' and the 'reason', of those persons who support ISLAM and moslems, in their 'struggle' for 'justice' and 'peace'.



"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb.


Knowingly, or unknowingly [i.e. being willingly ignorant], support for moslems, is support for moslem violence and murder [i.e. 'rightly guided' Jihad].





"O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter.
Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things."
Koran 9.38, 39

"Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day ask thee for no exemption from fighting...And Allah knoweth well those who do their duty."
Koran 9.44

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."   
Koran 9.123

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods;....they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:..."
Koran 9.111






'Unbelievers' who resist Allah's will, by defending themselves from Jihadist attacks by moslems, are criminals.


That is what moslems really, really, believe.

That is what moslems openly declare.

.....to anyone who will listen to their lies and misrepresentation, of their 'struggle' against those 'murderous' Jews who resist them.





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Reply #21 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 1:57pm
 
Hey dipshit.

Have the muslims condemned 9/11, Bali bombings, Spain bombings, the London bombings, USS Cole attack, the Russian theatre bombings, PAN AM flight 103 etc.?
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Reply #22 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 2:12pm
 
blackadder wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 1:57pm:
Hey dipshit.

Have the muslims condemned 9/11, Bali bombings, Spain bombings, the London bombings, USS Cole attack, the Russian theatre bombings, PAN AM flight 103 etc.?







Well of course moslems have condemned 9/11, Bali bombings, etc, etc, etc........etc, etc, etc.

That is why ISLAM is known as the religion of peace.
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THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/







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DECEIT EXAMPLE #1,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - blatant deceit
A UK moslem *community leader*, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;
"We condemn the killing of all innocent civilians."


#1,
THE VERY SAME GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
"...Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: "Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar." "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article552594.ece




DECEIT EXAMPLE #2,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - blatant deceit
"The Undercover Mosque: The return"
"A group of Christians visiting the mosque and the preacher and the Women's Circle treat [the Christians] kindly and talk about,
'We're all people of the book and we all come from the same history'."


#2,
SAME GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
"Just as soon as that group of visitors [the Christians] leaves, the language changes completely. 'CHRISTIANITY IS VILE', the preacher says....."

Source;
ABC Radio National Religion interview transcript  - "The Undercover Mosque: The return"
".....Stephen Crittenden: .....your program highlights a certain kind of duplicity. When they're caught out, individuals don't miss a [beat], they just say they've been taken out of context....
David Henshaw: ......Regent's Park Mosque is officially committed to inter-faith dialogue....."
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/religionreport/stories/2008/2360820.htm#transcript

IMO, what 'religious' non-moslems need to realise, is that the intentional, blatant deceit, coming from the lips of moslems, lies about a 'tolerant', 'peaceful' ISLAM, is often delivered as part of a moslem 'inter-faith dialogue', with people of other faiths.




DECEIT EXAMPLE #3,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
Use children as troops, says cleric [Sheik Feiz Mohammed]
January 18, 2007
..."We want to have children and offer them as soldiers...Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).
"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=94224
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

#3,
SAME GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - blatant deceit
Fiery Australian cleric claims jihad remarks were misunderstood
"The jihad I speak of is not one of violence,"...
"I don't believe in suicide bombing. I don't believe in violence against others," he said. "We denounce that. This is not Islamic law and it is not moral."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/fiery-australian-cleric-claims-jihad-remarks-w...

Sheik Feiz declares;
"....violence against others,..This is not Islamic law and it is not moral.";





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Dictionary,
sophistry = = the use of fallacious arguments, especially to deceive.


SOPHISTRY EXAMPLE #1

Peace

Good moslems will tell non-moslems, that moslems want to see 'peace' cover the whole earth.

But a moslem, does not openly reveal [at the same time] that all good moslems define 'peace', as submission to Allah's will.
Dar al-Islam = = "house of peace" [is those places where Sharia has authority].
Dar al-Harb = = "house of war".


Google,
Dar al-Harb deception
i.e.
A moslem 'peace' = = mankind's SLAVERY, under ISLAMIST political rule.






SOPHISTRY EXAMPLE #2

'Terrorism'

Good moslems have declared to non-moslems, that they condemn 'terrorism'.

But moslems do not reveal that ISLAMISTS define non-moslems as the terrorists! - Truly!

Because ISLAMISTS have defined 'terrorism' as; Resisting Allah's will!! - Truly!

When non-moslems try to resist the ISLAMISATION of their society, or try to prevent ISLAMIST violence, good moslems [truly!] regard such actions as 'oppression' and 'violence' against moslems! - Truly!

e.g.
"Five Sydney men jailed over terrorism plot"
"The sister for one of the convicted men said...that the sentence is not fair to her community or religion."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/02/15/2819965.htm
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/australia-5-jihadists-motivated-by-intolerant-...







SOPHISTRY EXAMPLE #3

Innocent people

Good moslems have declared to non-moslems, that they condemn the killing of innocent people.

But the good moslem, does not openly reveal [at the same time] that in ISLAM, only moslems qualify as 'innocent people'.
EXAMPLES next post....


Google to find...

e.g.
"....when we say innocent people, we mean muslims...If you are a non-muslim, then you are guilty...."
Anjem Choudary, UK muslim community leader, speaking publicly, of the London 7/7 bombing victims.


e.g.
"......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians. Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any [unbeliever]."
Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, speaking publicly, and then privately, regarding the London 7/7 bombing victims.


e.g.
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."
Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad, speaking to a moslem audience, regarding the London 7/7 bombing victims.

ISLAM = deceit.


a good read, outlining and exposing ISLAMIST sophistry...

Islamic Dictionary for Infidels
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/07/islamic-dictionary-for-infidels.html




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Reply #23 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 7:05pm
 
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Egypt does not have a substantial Shi-ite population, why would the MB in Egypt be concerned with Shi-ites?

Green represents Muslim. Blue represents Shi-ites.


Falah what is the appropriate Islamic punishment for being a Shite?

blackadder wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 1:57pm:
Hey dipshit.

Have the muslims condemned 9/11, Bali bombings, Spain bombings, the London bombings, USS Cole attack, the Russian theatre bombings, PAN AM flight 103 etc.?


I believe Abu once brought himself to say it was wrong and was not a war sanctioned by an appropriate Islamic authority. I think it is a sin in Islam to start a war you cannot win.
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Islamic Statements Against Terrorism
Mustafa Mashhur, General Guide, Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt; Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, Pakistan; Muti Rahman Nizami, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, Bangladesh; Shaykh Ahmad Yassin, Founder, Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), Palestine; Rashid Ghannoushi, President, Nahda Renaissance Movement, Tunisia; Fazil Nour, President, PAS – Parti Islam SeMalaysia, Malaysia; and 40 other Muslim scholars and politicians:



“The undersigned, leaders of Islamic movements, are horrified by the events of Tuesday 11 September 2001 in the United States which resulted in massive killing, destruction and attack on innocent lives. We express our deepest sympathies and sorrow. We condemn, in the strongest terms, the incidents, which are against all human and Islamic norms. This is grounded in the Noble Laws of Islam which forbid all forms of attacks on innocents. God Almighty says in the Holy Qur’an: ‘No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another’ (Surah al-Isra 17:15).



http://kurzman.unc.edu/islamic-statements-against-terrorism/
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Reply #25 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 7:32pm
 
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Muslim Brotherhood, an opposition Islamist group in Egypt, said it was “horrified” by the attack and expressed “condolences and sadness”:
“[We] strongly condemn such activities that are against all humanist and Islamic morals. … [We] condemn and oppose all aggression on human life, freedom and dignity anywhere in the world.”
Al-Ahram Weekly Online, 13 – 19 September 2001,
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That whole webpage is full of Muslim condemnation of the 9/11 attacks.
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Falah what is the appropriate Islamic punishment for being a Shite?



Self-flaggelation - every year at Ashura.
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Does it include the quote by that British Muslim leader who told the press that it is wrong to kill innocents, then later told his following that westerners cannot be considered innocent?
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Reply #29 - Feb 2nd, 2012 at 7:37pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 7:36pm:
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Falah what is the appropriate Islamic punishment for being a Shite?



Self-flaggelation - every year at Ashura.


They have to masturbate once a year?
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