freediver wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 12:27pm:



I mean support on a personal level as compatible with their religious beliefs, rather than support as a strategic move.

falah wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 6:29pm:



Sorry falah,

And when i provide evidence, people complain.



But for you falah,
......i am happy to provide evidence/arguments supporting my claims.         






falah wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 6:29pm:



Peace.

Google;




falah,
A very important consideration when talking with moslems, about seeking 'peace', is to know, how do moslems define the word >>> PEACE <<< ?

And moslems define, peace = = submission to Allah's will.





So.....
.....if the unbelievers sue for a cessation of hostilities, AND, incline towards submission to Allah's will [i.e. accepting ISLAM], then don't fight them.

Therefore, to moslems, 'peace' = = surrender to ISLAM.

OTHERWISE !.....[see below]






falah wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 6:29pm:


But Why did he ???

Why did Mohammed forbid moslems to destroy war booty ?????????????

Duh ?

Let think......

Duh, duh, duh.

Coz war booty, is war booty ['treasure', knob toys, etc].

There is no sense in destroying war booty, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT MOSLEMS ARE FIGHTING FOR.



Hence, Mohammed forbade moslems from killing women and children.



already explored and covered,  here on OzPol,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251160915/0#0








falah wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 6:29pm:


Err, war booty.






falah wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2012 at 6:29pm:



falah,
Define moslem 'peace', as it relates to non-moslems.

That concept [i.e. peace with non-moslems], for a moslem, is a contradiction in terms.



+++

THERE CAN NEVER BE PEACE WITH UNBELIEVERS [i.e. 'the friends of Satan']   <-----The 'prime directive', to all moslems, from Allah



"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98
[i.e. 'Unbelief' is a crime.]

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76
[i.e. Fighting against 'unbelievers' is sanctified, fighting against 'unbelievers' is 'good works'. Because 'unbelievers' [of Allah] are in league with SATAN. So those who are indeed, good moslems will fight against the 'unbelievers'.]

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them."
Koran 3.28

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

The Hadith,
"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

It appears even more Coptic Christians are being loved to death by muslims.
Over 3000 Muslims Attack Christian Homes and Shops in Egypt, 3 Injured
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Posted GMT 1-28-2012 1:39:42
      
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(AINA) -- A mob of over 3000 Muslims attacked Copts in the village of Kobry-el-Sharbat (el-Ameriya), Alexandria this afternoon. Coptic homes and shops were looted before being set ablaze. Two Copts and a Muslim were injured. The violence started after a rumor was spread that a Coptic man had an allegedly intimate photo of a Muslim woman on his mobile phone. The Coptic man, Mourad Samy Guirgis, surrendered to the police this morning morning for his protection.

According to eyewitnesses, the perpetrators were bearded men in white gowns. "They were Salafists, and some of were from the Muslim Brotherhood," according to one witness. It was reported that terrorized women and children who lost their homes were in the streets without any place to go.

According to Father Boktor Nashed from St. George's Church in el-Nahdah, a meeting between Muslim and Christian representatives was supposed to take place in the evening in Kobry-el-Sharbat. But, by 3 P.M. a Muslim mob looted and torched the home of Mourad Samy Guirgis, as well as the home of his family and three homes of Coptic neighbors. A number of Coptic-owned shops and businesses were also looted and torched. "We contacted security forces, but they arrived very, very late," Said Father Nashad. The fire brigade was prevented from going into the village by the Muslims and the fires were left to burn themselves out. "Those who lost their home, left the village," said Father Nashed.

Coptic activist Mariam Ragy, who was covering the violence in Kobry-el-Sharbat , said it took the army 1 hour to drive 2 kilometers to the village. "This happens every time. They wait outside the village until the Muslims have had enough violence, then they appear." She said that she spoke to many Copts from the village this evening who said that although their homes were not attacked, Muslims stood in the street asking them to come to their homes to hide. "They believed that this was a new trick to make them leave, so that Muslims would loot and torch their homes while they were away," said Ragy.

The Gov of Alexandria visited al-Nahda, near Kobry-el-Sharbat, this evening and told elYoum 7 newspaper that the two Copts and one Muslim who were injured were transported to hospital. He said that the family of the Muslim girl whose image was on the Copt's mobile phone wanted revenge from the Coptic man. They broke into his home and torched a furniture factory located in the same building.

Joseph Malak, a lawyer for the Coptic Church in Alexandria, said it is too early to count injuries to Copts or losses to their property.

Mr. Mina Girguis, of the Maspero Youth Union in Alexandria, said that "collective punishment of Copts for someone else's mistake, which is yet to be determined, is completely unacceptable." He believes that the reason for this violence is fabricated, and the military is behind it. "They are trying to divert the attention from the second revolution which is taking place now."

Father Nashed denied that Islamists were present, only ordinary village Muslims, and could not give an explanation as why people who have lived together amicably for years could commit such violence. "Maybe because of lack of security, they think that they can do as they please."

He said that the nearly 65 Coptic families were ordered to stay indoors and not to open their shops and businesses tomorrow. He added that security forces did not arrest any of the perpetrators, "on the contrary, they were begging the mob to go home."

By midnight the violence had subsided.

By Mary Abdelmassih


© 2012, Assyrian International News Agency.  All Rights Reserved.

http://www.aina.org/news/20120127193942.htm

You DID say this falah?

Once again you bring the fake news from the extremist Christian AIMA site.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Islam's pretensions to purity, honesty, honour are thoroughly discredited. Take it from there.