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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights Reply #60 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 10:34pm No... he's saying put your akhirah where your mouth is.
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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #61 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 11:14pm

falah wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 8:49pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

falah wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2012 at 5:30pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2012 at 12:38pm:

falah,

Moslems can go to HELL.

Yadda, it is Christians and Jews who are the polytheists. The polytheists are the ones who go to Hell.

I challenge you Yadda, let us both ask God Almighty to send to Hell whichever one of us is on the wrong religion. I am certain I am on the one true monotheistic religion. I am so certain that I am prepared to pray to God and ask him for this. Are you certain enough to do the same?

Go for it falah.

I am NOT a moslem.

So let your 'god' curse me.

......because i am NOT a moslem.

Pray to your 'god' falah, do your worst, ........and let your 'god' do his very worst.

MY LIFE, is in the hands of the God of Israel.

I pray to him, and i ask him for his mercy [forgiveness], and for his protection.

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Joel 2:32
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Obviously you do not comprehend how this works Yadda (and it is not surprising considering the limited intellect you have thus far demonstrated).

I am suggesting we both pray to God Almighty to send to Hell which ever one of us in on the wrong religion.

If you really believe you are on the true religion, you should have no problem making such a prayer.

But in your heart you obviously do not believe that you are on the true religion, so your fear holds you back.

All your claims about Muslims going to Hell are shown to be fake when you do not even believe in your own religion.

Why not pray for forgiveness of the deluded?

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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #62 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 8:43am

freediver wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 11:14pm:

Why not pray for forgiveness of the deluded?

How can someone who lies about God be forgiven? Repentance before forgiveness.

But the point is to demonstrate that Yadda does not have conviction in his beliefs.

He makes baseless claims about Muslims going to Hell, while lacking certainty over his own religion.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights Reply #63 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 9:28am abu_rashid wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 10:34pm: No... he's saying put your akhirah where your mouth is. Ah, so this is Arabic hour now.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49400 At my desk.	Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights Reply #64 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 9:44am Quote: How can someone who lies about God be forgiven? Step 1) Don't stone them to death Step 2) Get over it Quote: But the point is to demonstrate that Yadda does not have conviction in his beliefs. So only people who wish horrible suffering upon others have conviction?
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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights Reply #65 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 11:37am Soren wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 9:28am: abu_rashid wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 10:34pm: No... he's saying put your akhirah where your mouth is. Ah, so this is Arabic hour now. I'm sure you can google it and work it out. You're not entirely stupid.
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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #66 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 1:14pm

falah wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 8:49pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

falah wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2012 at 5:30pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2012 at 12:38pm:

falah,

Moslems can go to HELL.

Yadda, it is Christians and Jews who are the polytheists. The polytheists are the ones who go to Hell.

I challenge you Yadda, let us both ask God Almighty to send to Hell whichever one of us is on the wrong religion. I am certain I am on the one true monotheistic religion. I am so certain that I am prepared to pray to God and ask him for this. Are you certain enough to do the same?

Go for it falah.

I am NOT a moslem.

So let your 'god' curse me.

......because i am NOT a moslem.

Pray to your 'god' falah, do your worst, ........and let your 'god' do his very worst.

MY LIFE, is in the hands of the God of Israel.

I pray to him, and i ask him for his mercy [forgiveness], and for his protection.

+++

Joel 2:32
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Obviously you do not comprehend how this works Yadda (and it is not surprising considering the limited intellect you have thus far demonstrated).

I am suggesting we both pray to God Almighty to send to Hell which ever one of us in on the wrong religion.

If you really believe you are on the true religion, you should have no problem making such a prayer.

But in your heart you obviously do not believe that you are on the true religion, so your fear holds you back.

All your claims about Muslims going to Hell are shown to be fake when you do not even believe in your own religion.

falah,

AGAIN....
I am NOT a moslem.

So your 'god' is ALREADY cursing me, supposedly.

falah,

Your 'god' curses me, because i am NOT a moslem.

"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith."
Koran 2.089

And yet, God, the God of Israel has always protected, and blessed me.

Although i have done some very foolish things in my life, and been exposed to some very dangerous circumstances in my life [in my past], my God, the God of Israel, has blessed me with a life of true peace.

Why so ?

I like to believe that it is because my God, the God of Israel, knows my heart.

My God, the God of Israel has protected me, and blessed me with happiness and peace.

falah,

Q.
Who are the cursed people ?

A.
MOSLEMS.

Proof ????

Just look at the circumstances of almost all moslem majority nations.

No joy.

No peace.

RATHER, we see;

Injustice.

Corruption.

Violence.

Human poverty.

Oppression.

Tyranny.

= = Moslems murdering moslems.

= = The fruit of 'the peace of ISLAM'.

The truth is that ISLAM produces oppression, corruption, and dead bodies.

Proof ???

Look at any Sharia jurisdiction in this world.

Those societies are ALL, nests of injustice, violence, oppression, corruption and human poverty.

ISLAM = = a curse upon mankind, from God, the God of Israel.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #67 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 1:44pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

falah,

Q.
Who are the cursed people ?

A.
MOSLEMS.

Proof ????

Just look at the circumstances of almost all moslem majority nations.

No joy.

No peace.

RATHER, we see;

Injustice.

Corruption.

Violence.

Human poverty.

Oppression.

Tyranny.

e.g.
falah,

Tunisia.

Tunisia has had the 'broom' through their nation, to remove the previous corrupt moslem tyrant.

True?

So now, where is the resultant blessing of 'PEACE' from Allah, upon Tunisia ???

Quote:

Tunisia: Security forces clash with "radical Islamists"

Sharia is a package deal, as even Imam Rauf knows. As a total (and totalitarian) system of governance for every aspect of life, there can always be more of it to enforce. Someone will always demand more Sharia, and be willing to kill and topple governments to enforce it, all the more where the declaration of an Islamic state has tied the right to rule to Islamic piety. It is an Achilles' heel built into Sharia itself, and a perpetual source of instability.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/tunisia-security-forces-clash-with-radical-isl...

There is no peace from ISLAM.

Only perpetual struggle and conflict, against Allah's enemies.

And in all Sharia jurisdictions, those [Allah's enemies], ARE OF A MAN'S OWN HOUSE.

That, is the curse of ISLAM, the curse that is upon those who themselves, choose to embrace ISLAM.

The truth is that ISLAM produces oppression, corruption, and dead bodies.

ISLAM = = a curse upon mankind, from God, the God of Israel.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #68 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 2:29pm

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

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How can someone who lies about God be forgiven?

Step 1) Don't stone them to death

Who mentioned stoning? Your paranoid delusional mind seems to invent a lot of things.

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

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But the point is to demonstrate that Yadda does not have conviction in his beliefs.

So only people who wish horrible suffering upon others have conviction?

I don't wish horrible suffering on anybody. I want Yadda to either put his money where mouth is, or else admit that he is unsure about his/her religion.

I knew Yadda would not commit, because Yadda lacks faith in his own religion. This has been proven.

Yadda should now stop lying about Islam because he/she obviously does not even have conviction in his/her own religion.

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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #69 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 2:32pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

ISLAM = = a curse upon mankind, from God, the God of Israel.[/size]

Yadda must think that Muslims were behind the Holocaust, Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, invasion of iraq, invasion Afghanistan, napalming of Vietnamese villages, and nuking of Hiroshima & Nagasaki.

Yadda be honest with yourself and admit who has been the real curse on humanity.

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Reply #70 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 2:41pm

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Who mentioned stoning?

I was talking about not stoning them to death. Stoning people to death is a barrier to forgiving them. It's just not in the spirit of forgiveness.

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I don't wish horrible suffering on anybody.

Oops, I meant pray for, not wish. You got me there. Not only do you think this is a good idea yourself, you want Yadda to do it also because you think that is the only way to show he is as good as you.

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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #71 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 4:02pm

falah wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 2:32pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

ISLAM = = a curse upon mankind, from God, the God of Israel.

Yadda must think that Muslims were behind the Holocaust, Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, invasion of iraq, invasion Afghanistan, napalming of Vietnamese villages, and nuking of Hiroshima & Nagasaki.

Yadda be honest with yourself and admit who has been the real curse on humanity.

falah,

The Jewish people [the Hebrews, Israel] are not, and were never, perfect individuals.

None of us are.

And they, the Jewish people, are merely on a [spiritual] journey, as are we all.

[Yadda snip's, edits out Bible verses, that mean nothing to moslems ]

falah,

The Jewish people, are 'strangers in a strange land', and they are coming to knowledge.

We are all 'strangers in a strange land', ....and it is within us all to come to knowledge.

THAT IS GOD'S 'OFFER' TO US ALL.

To every individual, who 'turns'.

To every individual, who turns away from unrighteousness.

But what are the moslem people 'coming to' falah ???

Where is ISLAM leading you, and all of your brothers ?

LOL

Allah's paradise ???

LOL

Do you really, really, think so ???

You [Mohammedan's] are being used.

And the wickedness in your heart is so deep and so all encompassing, that you can't even see that you are being used, as a 'device'.

You are blinded, by your hatred, .....of the Jewish people.

If moslems refuse to turn away from ISLAM, they will be 'discarded' [or worse!].

Isaiah 59:20
And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

That offer of redemption, is open to all of mankind, .....it is not an offer made only to the Jewish people.

Because we are, all of us, those 'strangers in a strange land'.

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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #72 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 6:36pm

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

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Who mentioned stoning?

I was talking about not stoning them to death. Stoning people to death is a barrier to forgiving them. It's just not in the spirit of forgiveness.

Quote:

I don't wish horrible suffering on anybody.

Oops, I meant pray for, not wish. You got me there. Not only do you think this is a good idea yourself, you want Yadda to do it also because you think that is the only way to show he is as good as you.

No, I know Yadda won't do it because, deep in his heart, he doesn't really believe in his religion.

The whole point is to expose Yadda as a hypocrite.

I know that Yadda does not believe in his religion, so I know that Yadda will not agree to what I proposed.

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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #73 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 6:53pm

falah wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 6:36pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 25^th, 2012 at 2:41pm:

Quote:

Who mentioned stoning?

I was talking about not stoning them to death. Stoning people to death is a barrier to forgiving them. It's just not in the spirit of forgiveness.

Quote:

I don't wish horrible suffering on anybody.

Oops, I meant pray for, not wish. You got me there. Not only do you think this is a good idea yourself, you want Yadda to do it also because you think that is the only way to show he is as good as you.

No, I know Yadda won't do it because, deep in his heart, he doesn't really believe in his religion.

The whole point is to expose Yadda as a hypocrite.

I know that Yadda does not believe in his religion, so I know that Yadda will not agree to what I proposed.

LOL

falah,

Whereas, i know that YOU do believe in your 'religion'.

Because i know that you hate 'Zionists' and Christians, .....because [ISLAM claims, Koran 9.30] we are 'polytheists'.

And you believe that we deserve to die, because we, 'Zionists' and Christians are resisting Allah's will.

Google;

slaughter the jews

Google;

jews, sons of apes and pigs

You are dumb falah, dumb.

Like all moslems falah, you are 'sick' in the head.

A simple definition of INSANITY;

Quote:

Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society].

And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

IMO, this act, is an expression of insanity [or 'wickedness'].
And a good example of why we need to separate ourselves, from all those who would justify such acts...

wtc-9-11.jpg

"...typically, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself and, or, others around him."

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Re: Islam vs Universal Declaration of human rights
Reply #74 - Feb 25^th, 2012 at 7:09pm

Yadda what about the tens of thousands of buildings Jews and Christians have blown up? And the millions of people in them they've murdered? That's an act of desperate retaliation, nothing more, nothing less.

The ironic thing is you seem to be exhibiting the exact things you accuse Muslims of, that everytime a Jew or Christian blows up a building full of people, it's nothing, because they're "doing God's work" but when a Muslim does it, he must be the epitome of wickedness.

You seriously are devoid of the intellect required to compute that aren't you?

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