BigOl64 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 9:06am:


True, but it was the limited range of aircraft I was considering both in terms of time in the air and distance from the shore.
It is always preferable to sink an enemy in someone elses waters than ours, and then in ours as a last resort.

Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 8:42pm:



That implies that we have satellites watching all potential enemies ports.
I doubt that.
Even if we did see a large fleet forming how would we know their intention? -
could just be a military exercise.

Hi Chicken,
Well I hope for our sake that you're right.
I was told by an ex airforce serviceman that in a real war
with a major power such as China our airforce would be knocked out in under 24 hours.

Bobby. wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:23am:


Treat it like a fire drill. It's practice for the real thing. If others are performing a military exercise, you can conduct your own and pretend they've really come to attack.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 11:47am:


How well does Australian military software sync with American military software? It would be good to be able to watch enemy movements in real-time.

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 15^th, 2012 at 1:30pm:



Without the USA we wouldn't be here.
They are the only power which stops other countries attacking us.

You might find this video interesting.



A Collins sub manages to evade American destroyers (even their sonar) with some clever maneuvering.

This noisy sub isn't so easy to detect after all.

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:


I think the trouble with smaller subs is that they don't pack as much capability as one large sub. I also think it may not be a very efficient use of space and manpower.

For example, if you had 10 mini-subs to replace 1 big sub, you'd be duplicating 10 kitchens, 10 engines, 10 command/control rooms, 10 fire control systems, 10 magazines/torpedo storage units ....... what else have I missed?

With one large sub, you only need one kitchen, one engine, one command/control room, one fire control system, one magazine/torpedo storage unit. One large sub packs different capabilities into one neat package -- long-range missiles, dealing with different kinds of threats, carrying torpedoes for small and large ships. Ten minisubs would each have their own job and not be very effective for other tasks.

The question is which is cheaper, having one large sub or many small ones?

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:


If China was going to attack anyone, it's more likely to attack our own allies and the USA's allies first -- Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Malaysia and Singapore. If China captures our allies in the Pacific region, we are going to get a lot more lonely. Losing friends isn't a good thing. That's why increasing the reach of our navy and air force is important. It would be pretty selfish for us to think only of ourselves. I think we're relatively safe compared to our allies in the region.

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:


A strong economy allows you to finance a strong military. China already has a strong economy, so it's in a position to develop their military hardware further and build aircraft carriers and stealth fighters. The important thing to know is that they are working on their military deficiencies and not sleeping on it.

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Feb 26^th, 2012 at 1:28am:



Jass please stop, your ignorance of everything military is beyond belief.

I get that you have absolute conviction in what you're saying but it is just drivel, stop while you're behind.