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Reply #105 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:38pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:15pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:14pm:
falah wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:03pm:
What is the house of Islam? What is the house of war?

Yes. But what are they? Do they exist today?

Dar al-Islam and the Dar al-harb




Do they exist today? This division is the very basis of jihad.  Does jihad exist today?

There's your answer.

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Reply #106 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 12:42pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:38pm:
falah wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:15pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:14pm:
falah wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:03pm:
What is the house of Islam? What is the house of war?

Yes. But what are they? Do they exist today?

Dar al-Islam and the Dar al-harb




Do they exist today? This division is the very basis of jihad.  Does jihad exist today?

There's your answer.




Ignorant answer actually.

Jihad is not necessarily dependent on the existance of any kind of state at all.

Jihad means struggle and has a wide meaning.

For example, Muslims might consider missionary work to be a form of jihad - especially if that missionary work would put their life in danger.

Missionary work can be done without the existance of a state.

Struggling against one's own desire is considered a form of jihad. This does not require the existance of a state.

Telling an oppressive ruler that he is wrong is considered jihad. This activity does not require the the existance of an ISlamic state.
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Reply #107 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:22pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 12:42pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:38pm:
falah wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:15pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:14pm:
falah wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:03pm:
What is the house of Islam? What is the house of war?

Yes. But what are they? Do they exist today?

Dar al-Islam and the Dar al-harb




Do they exist today? This division is the very basis of jihad.  Does jihad exist today?

There's your answer.




Ignorant answer actually.

Jihad is not necessarily dependent on the existence of any kind of state at all.

Jihad means struggle and has a wide meaning.

For example, Muslims might consider missionary work to be a form of jihad - especially if that missionary work would put their life in danger.

Missionary work can be done without the existence of a state.

Struggling against one's own desire is considered a form of jihad. This does not require the existence of a state.

Telling an oppressive ruler that he is wrong is considered jihad. This activity does not require the the existence of an Islamic state.



Muslim war is also jihad.

Spreading Islam is jihad, whether in a war or by one beheading at a time.

Plotting to shoot up Hoslworthy is jihad. The Bali, Madrid, London and Glasgow bombings are jihad.

Your posting here is jihad. Abu is waging his personal jihad with every post.

The Cronulla attacks, the mass rapes, the annual Paris car-b-qs are jihad.

The Theo van Gogh murder was jihad, the embassy burnings after the Mohammed cartoons were jihad, the fatwah on Rushdie and the murder of his translators was jihad.

9/11 was jihad. The shoe bomber, the undie bomber, the countless suicide bombers are jihadis.
The airport screenings around the world are about jihad. Every time you check in at an airport you are reminded that the world is engaged in a jihad waged by Muslims.

You are waging permanent jihad against the world. That's what Dar al harb is. everybody knows it, you know it. It is about Islam waging war against the world.

You call it Islamic revival. You are right. Islam's presence is known by jihad. Not by innovation, learning, the spread of liberty - but by the black flag, symbolising the black heart of jihad.






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Reply #108 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:53pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:22pm:
falah wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 12:42pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:38pm:
falah wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:15pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:14pm:
falah wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 6:03pm:
What is the house of Islam? What is the house of war?

Yes. But what are they? Do they exist today?

Dar al-Islam and the Dar al-harb




Do they exist today? This division is the very basis of jihad.  Does jihad exist today?

There's your answer.




Ignorant answer actually.

Jihad is not necessarily dependent on the existence of any kind of state at all.

Jihad means struggle and has a wide meaning.

For example, Muslims might consider missionary work to be a form of jihad - especially if that missionary work would put their life in danger.

Missionary work can be done without the existence of a state.

Struggling against one's own desire is considered a form of jihad. This does not require the existence of a state.

Telling an oppressive ruler that he is wrong is considered jihad. This activity does not require the the existence of an Islamic state.



Muslim war is also jihad.

Spreading Islam is jihad, whether in a war or by one beheading at a time.

Plotting to shoot up Hoslworthy is jihad. The Bali, Madrid, London and Glasgow bombings are jihad.

Your posting here is jihad. Abu is waging his personal jihad with every post.

The Cronulla attacks, the mass rapes, the annual Paris car-b-qs are jihad.

The Theo van Gogh murder was jihad, the embassy burnings after the Mohammed cartoons were jihad, the fatwah on Rushdie and the murder of his translators was jihad.

9/11 was jihad. The shoe bomber, the undie bomber, the countless suicide bombers are jihadis.
The airport screenings around the world are about jihad. Every time you check in at an airport you are reminded that the world is engaged in a jihad waged by Muslims.

You are waging permanent jihad against the world. That's what Dar al harb is. everybody knows it, you know it. It is about Islam waging war against the world.

You call it Islamic revival. You are right. Islam's presence is known by jihad. Not by innovation, learning, the spread of liberty - but by the black flag, symbolising the black heart of jihad.







Your statements are like saying:

"Homosexuality in the West is a Christian Crusade"...or "Jews killing Palestinian children is Judaism"...or "Christians kill Afghan children is Christianity"

Your posts are juvenile, and reflect some kind of psychopathic mindframe.

You need psychiatric care. You numerous postings under vaious usernames on Ozpolitics suggest a type of schizophrenia.

If you get some professional help, I am sure you will feel much better.
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Reply #109 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:18am
 
So which of the examples I gave are not motivated by jihad?



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Reply #110 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:46am
 
Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:18am:
So which of the examples I gave are not motivated by jihad?


None of those are jihad. In fact, some of those you have described are, according to Islam, actually criminal activities.

You are a confused individual Soren, but Zionism will do that to you.

Probably the closest thing to jihad that you mentioned is writing on this forum, because making an idiot like you see any sense is a definite struggle.
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Reply #111 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:42pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:46am:
Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:18am:
So which of the examples I gave are not motivated by jihad?


None of those are jihad. In fact, some of those you have described are, according to Islam, actually criminal activities.

You are a confused individual Soren, but Zionism will do that to you.

Probably the closest thing to jihad that you mentioned is writing on this forum, because making an idiot like you see any sense is a definite struggle.



Nobody believes you. That's the price you pay for being a deceptive bugger.  The examples I gave are all jihadi activities. You and Aboo and Lestat are jihadis in your small, wordy ways.

It's no good calling me a Zionist. It's meaningless. To you, anyone not buying the Muslim jihadi agit-prop is a Zionist.  So a 'zionist' is anyone who is not duped by crazy Muslim propaganda. Which means your support base is the illiterate conspiracy crowd. Good luck to you.


If you look at what Muslims have been doing for the last 1300 years, you will see that they are completely without any achievement, whatsoever.  Except hostile takeovers. Whatever Muslims have ever come up with, somebody has done it somewhere else better.

And that's because Islam is definitionally, elementally, un-negotiably against free inquiry. You guys a buggered, historically speaking,  because you demand a closed mind as an opening gambit. That's all there is to your demise. You have zero chance because you have zero tolerance to free inquiry.

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Reply #112 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:10pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:42pm:
falah wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:46am:
Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:18am:
So which of the examples I gave are not motivated by jihad?


None of those are jihad. In fact, some of those you have described are, according to Islam, actually criminal activities.

You are a confused individual Soren, but Zionism will do that to you.

Probably the closest thing to jihad that you mentioned is writing on this forum, because making an idiot like you see any sense is a definite struggle.



Nobody believes you. That's the price you pay for being a deceptive bugger.  The examples I gave are all jihadi activities. You and Aboo and Lestat are jihadis in your small, wordy ways.

It's no good calling me a Zionist. It's meaningless. To you, anyone not buying the Muslim jihadi agit-prop is a Zionist.  So a 'zionist' is anyone who is not duped by crazy Muslim propaganda. Which means your support base is the illiterate conspiracy crowd. Good luck to you.


The term "Zionist" is not meaningless. It describes the people who support the occupation of Palestine by Jews, and the oppression of Palestinian people.

Zionism is similar to any sort of colonialism - except that it is one of the more evil and oppressive types like Apartheid in South Africa.

Soren, I know plenty of people who are not interested in Islam at all, but do believe that the Israeli occupation of Palestine is evil. Usually, the only people who support the Israelis are Jews, kooky Christian fanatics and far-right supremacists (if we exclude the politicians who have been bought off or influenced by the Zionist lobby).





Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:42pm:
And that's because Islam is definitionally, elementally, un-negotiably against free inquiry. You guys a buggered, historically speaking,  because you demand a closed mind as an opening gambit. That's all there is to your demise. You have zero chance because you have zero tolerance to free inquiry.


Kind of ironic that you were picking on someone else in another thread for spelling/grammar mistakes. Grin

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Reply #113 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:46pm
 
I like jews.
I think Israel is a good idea. I think jews have a right to Israel. I also think Israel is a damn sight better than whatever the Arabs would have done with the place - or any place where the Arabs are in charge. Compared to Israel, the rest of the Middle east is a dump. And I speak from experience.

I might have no typing skills or a sticky keyboard, but still, I am with the jews when it comes to Israel.

I am neither a Jew, nor a Chistian, so you can stick your lousy, stupid demographic speculations up your arse.

Madness is the only thing going for you, you have contributed nothing else to the world.



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Reply #114 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:07pm
 
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Zionism is similar to any sort of colonialism - except that it is one of the more evil and oppressive types like Apartheid in South Africa.


Is it true that Israeli arabs and Muslims have more freedom than those in all of Israel's neighbouring states?
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Reply #115 - Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:45pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:10pm:


The term "Zionist" is not meaningless. It describes the people who support the occupation of Palestine by Jews, and the oppression of Palestinian people.


Zionism is similar to any sort of colonialism



- except that it is one of the more evil and oppressive types like Apartheid in South Africa.





That is a very cheeky accusation, coming from an ISLAMIST, imo.

ISLAM itself as a philosophy, as 'a reason for being', has what could be termed, the ultimate in 'colonialist' ambitions!

And moslems are fully aware of THAT circumstance.

The forced colonisation of other lands, by ISLAM, is ISLAMIST doctrine.




According to Allah [as per ISLAM's foundation texts, the Koran, and the Hadith], the whole world belongs to moslems [as war booty]....

"Or have they gods that can guard them from Us? They have no power to aid themselves, nor can they be defended from Us.
...See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"
Koran 21:43-44

"And He made you [moslems] heirs to their [non-moslem] land and their dwellings and their property, and (to) a land which you have not yet trodden, and Allah has power over all things."
Koran 33:27



Moslems 'doctrinally', have a directive from Allah, to invade teh whole world as colonists, overwhelming other peoples, using persuasion, or resorting to violence and terror [if persuasion is 'ineffective'].






What ISLAMISTS like Abu, and falah, are accusing Jews of, is merely typical, moslem 'projection'.

Projection ?

Accusing Jews of the act of 'colonialism', in seizing, taking back, their own ancient homeland.


In these accusations, what moslems do is called 'projection', i.e. it is the projection of our own guilt, onto others.

Wicked people do this.

Wicked people have some wicked intent, or commit some wicked act, and they project the guilt of their own actions, and intents onto others, and thereby try to 'project' themselves [to 3rd parties] as being the 'innocent', aggrieved, party.



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Reply #116 - Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:06pm
 
falah wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:10pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:42pm:
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And that's because Islam is definitionally, elementally, un-negotiably against free inquiry. You guys a buggered, historically speaking,  because you demand a closed mind as an opening gambit. That's all there is to your demise. You have zero chance because you have zero tolerance to free inquiry.


Kind of ironic that you were picking on someone else in another thread for spelling/grammar mistakes. Grin




So if I can't spell 'are' that means you are not buggered???


Imagining that you aren't - now that's irony!

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Reply #117 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 10:34am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:07pm:
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Zionism is similar to any sort of colonialism - except that it is one of the more evil and oppressive types like Apartheid in South Africa.


Is it true that Israeli arabs and Muslims have more freedom than those in all of Israel's neighbouring states?


No it isn't...unless of course you believe having your home bulldozed is a sign of 'freedom'.

Then again, being the dipsh(t you are...who knows what you believe.
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Reply #118 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 10:35am
 
Soren wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:06pm:
falah wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:10pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:42pm:
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[quote author=4A564B5C570B390 link=1328405030/111#111 date=1329644556]
And that's because Islam is definitionally, elementally, un-negotiably against free inquiry. You guys a buggered, historically speaking,  because you demand a closed mind as an opening gambit. That's all there is to your demise. You have zero chance because you have zero tolerance to free inquiry.


Kind of ironic that you were picking on someone else in another thread for spelling/grammar mistakes. Grin




So if I can't spell 'are' that means you are not buggered???


Imagining that you aren't - now that's irony!



No...the fact that you can't spell 'are', and given that you actually have the nerve to have a go at others for their spelling....means that it is you that is buggered.

Do you get it soreass?
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Reply #119 - Feb 27th, 2012 at 10:12pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 26th, 2012 at 8:06pm:
falah wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 9:10pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:42pm:
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[quote author=4A564B5C570B390 link=1328405030/111#111 date=1329644556]
And that's because Islam is definitionally, elementally, un-negotiably against free inquiry. You guys a buggered, historically speaking,  because you demand a closed mind as an opening gambit. That's all there is to your demise. You have zero chance because you have zero tolerance to free inquiry.


Kind of ironic that you were picking on someone else in another thread for spelling/grammar mistakes. Grin




So if I can't spell 'are' that means you are not buggered???


Imagining that you aren't - now that's irony!



Amusing is that you still don't even realise your mistake.

Quote:
You guys a buggered


In English we use the word "are" not "a" when describing a people.

For example, someone can say "Soren, you are stupid!", rather than "Soren, you a stupid!"
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