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Doctor Jolly

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Re: Is the Carbon Tax a Big Scam
Reply #45 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 12:28pm

Ajax wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 11:24am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 9:26pm:

Ajax wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:56pm:

You know at the last G20 meeting Gillard handed them a $6.8 billion dollar xmas present, thats $6.8 billion that we have to borrow and then pay back with interest to these bankers.

Isn't that treason!

Read here
http://www.smh.com.au/world/gillard-insists-boosting-imf-funds-will-aid-friends-...

And where did she get it well maybe rom here!
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-11-28/australia-to-cut-a-6-8-billion-to-me...

Its treason i tell ya.

We are loaning the IMF the money, you muppet.

You should be tried for treason.

Grin

Is that right!

She also stood out in front on national television and said,

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"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead."
Julia Gillard

She has sold us into financial slavery and it is treason.

Who will know whether they have paid it of or not YOU oR ME, she's planning to give them more she recons that $6.8 billion isn't enough of a contribution to help the IMF fund the bail out money for the EU.

And what about the 10% monies that are going to the UN climate change fund from the Australian Carbon Tax?

WTF have the UN got to do with Australian Tax Payers money, why are we giving them anything at all.

She's a traitor and should be sent to jail.

Oh, so it seems your real feelings are not anti-carbon tax as a way to mitigate climate change as your opening post suggested, you hate finance and hate gillard. Fair enough, you'll find plenty of oddball friends here. You really should have come clean up front though.

Back to the $7 billion IMF capper.

We have offered the a $7 billion dollar line of credit, which they can use, only if they need to. As far as I know they havent used it. Se still have our $7b large.
If they do use it, or more likely, part of it, they will pay lovely interest on what they take. And more interest that we get charged for borrowing I might add, which means we make a nice little arbitrage. And then also repay the money later.

Its Australia getting money for nothing, and looking like a good global citizen at the same time.
How can you possibly be opposed to that ?

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Re: Is the Carbon Tax a Big Scam
Reply #46 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 3:14pm

Julia Gillard

Is the bankers golden girl, mate they have her in their back pockets, she will be handing over $10 billion to the IMF.

Who owns the IMF, Goldman Sachs etc etc.

Who has recently farked the world up Goldman sachs etc etc .

These are the people she supports.

If this deal was so good why doesn't she tell us the details, there would be nothing to loose right.

Fact is they will get this money from thin air and then we will be paying the ineterest.

How can you believe a person who said

Quote:

"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead."
Julia Gillard

Only to fool us all and introduce it, people that voted for labor in the last election did so because of her statement above.

She has sold us into financial slavery, our carbon tax European ETS will be making money for the Rothchilds, the Rocerfellas, the morgans the Grenfeilds and the list goes on.

We will be shipping bucket loads of Australian tax payers money into these bankers hands.

The worst thing about this is they couldn't give a hoot about the environment.

And why should we be giving 10% of our carbon tax to the United nations?

Now that is treason, is it not.

Who the hell is she working for the banks, the UN or Australia.

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http://www.theage.com.au/business/gillard-vows-to-double-money-to-imf-20111103-1...

A quota increase would also increase the influence in IMF decision-making of key emerging market countries, particularly those in Asia.

SDRs are a form of special purpose money credited to the accounts of IMF member states that can be used to boost currency reserves and smooth exchange rate volatility.

Australia’s quota can be drawn on by the IMF and used in lending to borrowing IMF member countries.

As it is an exchange of assets - a basket of currencies consisting of the euro, yen, pound sterling and US dollar - the increase by Australia won’t have a direct impact on the federal budget’s fiscal or underlying cash balances.

Ms Gillard is also expected to push for key bodies including the IMF, International Labour Organisation, World Trade Organisation and Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) to work together to create jobs

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/business/gillard-vows-to-double-money-to-imf-20111103-1mx70.html#ixzz1lx77sOWF

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Re: Is the Carbon Tax a Big Scam
Reply #47 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 3:21pm

The details are on the treasury website.

There is no conspiracy here Ajax ?

We've been lending money to the IMF for decades.

Ajax wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 3:14pm:

Julia Gillard

Is the bankers golden girl, mate they have her in their back pockets, she will be handing over $10 billion to the IMF.

Who owns the IMF, Goldman Sachs etc etc.

Who has recently farked the world up Goldman sachs etc etc .

These are the people she supports.

If this deal was so good why doesn't she tell us the details, there would be nothing to loose right.

Fact is they will get this money from thin air and then we will be paying the ineterest.

How can you believe a person who said

Quote:

"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead."
Julia Gillard

Only to fool us all and introduce it, people that voted for labor in the last election did so because of her statement above.

She has sold us into financial slavery, our carbon tax European ETS will be making money for the Rothchilds, the Rocerfellas, the morgans the Grenfeilds and the list goes on.

We will be shipping bucket loads of Australian tax payers money into these bankers hands.

The worst thing about this is they couldn't give a hoot about the environment.

And why should we be giving 10% of our carbon tax to the United nations?

Now that is treason, is it not.

Who the hell is she working for the banks, the UN or Australia.

Quote:

http://www.theage.com.au/business/gillard-vows-to-double-money-to-imf-20111103-1...

A quota increase would also increase the influence in IMF decision-making of key emerging market countries, particularly those in Asia.

SDRs are a form of special purpose money credited to the accounts of IMF member states that can be used to boost currency reserves and smooth exchange rate volatility.

Australia’s quota can be drawn on by the IMF and used in lending to borrowing IMF member countries.

As it is an exchange of assets - a basket of currencies consisting of the euro, yen, pound sterling and US dollar - the increase by Australia won’t have a direct impact on the federal budget’s fiscal or underlying cash balances.

Ms Gillard is also expected to push for key bodies including the IMF, International Labour Organisation, World Trade Organisation and Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) to work together to create jobs

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/business/gillard-vows-to-double-money-to-imf-20111103-1mx70.html#ixzz1lx77sOWF

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Is the Carbon Tax a Big Scam Reply #48 - Feb 10^th, 2012 at 3:56pm Would you buy an idea off these people?
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Re: Is the Carbon Tax a Big Scam
Reply #49 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 4:08pm

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Doctor Jolly wrote:
The details are on the treasury website.

There is no conspiracy here Ajax ?

We've been lending money to the IMF for decades.

Hey doc

Dont you find it rather odd that we support an organisation such as the IMF which can only or best be described as financial terrorists?

Look what they are doing in Europe, they are actually wanting to take away the sovereingnty of some of those nations.

Why should we be giving Australian tax payer dollars to them.

Also what about the UN climate change fund we will be giving them 10% of all Australian revenue from the carbon tax every year for ever and a day, its not a one off thing.

Now to me that is treason, because our leaders are not putting the wealth fare of Australia first when they are doing these things.

Looks like they are becoming a part of the new world order to me, and like most other things that matter we will not get a say on whether we should or shouldn't.

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Is the Carbon Tax a Big Scam Reply #50 - Feb 12^th, 2012 at 3:18pm “Remember, Where You Have a Concentration of Power In a Few Hands, All Too Frequently, Men With The Mentality of Gangsters Gain Control. History Has Proven That ... POWER TENDS TO CORRUPT; ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY.” - British historian, Sir John Dalberg-Acton, 1887
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Re: Is the Carbon Tax a Big Scam
Reply #51 - Feb 12^th, 2012 at 8:56pm

Grey wrote on Feb 12^th, 2012 at 3:18pm:

“Remember, Where You Have a Concentration of Power In a Few Hands,
All Too Frequently, Men With The Mentality of Gangsters Gain Control. History Has Proven That ...
POWER TENDS TO CORRUPT; ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY.”
- British historian, Sir John Dalberg-Acton, 1887

Oh, man! That's so original. And deep. Do you have any other old cliches?
Last man standing is the bus conductor. Stuff like that.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Is the Carbon Tax a Big Scam Reply #52 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 8:27am No Soren but we do have that old favourite -Tutenkaham was a Mummy's Boy or how about Hitler was always in such a bad mood because he was a Sour Kraut.
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