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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	leftist ideology in a nutshell Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:39pm Quote: A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95651 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #1 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:48pm Can't argue against that, Honky.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #2 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:58pm So is there any specific thing about 'the order of things' that you hate, and feel the burning need to dismantle? What would you replace the "order that exists" with? Seems a bit like change for the sake of it otherwise.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95651 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #3 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:59pm Not at all. I've always thought that everything is just as it is. Not much point in changing it - changing it to what?
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #4 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:01pm Karnal wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:59pm: Not at all. I've always thought that everything is just as it is. Not much point in changing it - changing it to what? That would seem to contradict your previous post. Please help me learn karnal. I want to know what it is that makes lefties so superior to righties.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95651 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #5 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:07pm Contradict my post about arguing? I can't. Anyway, I'm a hopeless arguer. I always end up agreeing.
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Reply #6 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:13pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Contradict my post about arguing? I can't.

Anyway, I'm a hopeless arguer. I always end up agreeing.

So you'd agree that

A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”.

adequately sums up progressive goals?

the question then is why? What's the matter with the structure of the world which presently exists? It's not perfect, but nor does it deserve to have war waged on it.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95651 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #7 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:21pm No, I'm saying I can't argue against it. I'm hopeless. Actually, it reads a bit like a public service policy document. I've never understood them either.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #8 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:26pm Oh I see. Well if you happen to run into any other progressives who can help me learn what is so horrible about the order of the world that it needs to have an indicsrimnate war waged on it, point them in my direction please.
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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #9 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:27pm "Mummy issues" would have sufficed. "Daddy issues" to back it up.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95651 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #10 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:28pm Have you tried asking Deathridesahorse?
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #11 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:30pm Karnal wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:28pm: Have you tried asking Deathridesahorse? Yes, he said something about anthrax breeding nuclear weapons. But I like to get a variety of opinions and sources.
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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #12 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:32pm ... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:01pm: I want to know what it is that makes lefties so superior to righties. Egalitarianism and rationality, for starters.
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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #13 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:34pm ... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:13pm: So you'd agree that A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”. adequately sums up progressive goals? Nope.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95651 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #14 - Feb 9^th, 2012 at 5:35pm There you go, Honky.
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