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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95651 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #150 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 4:46pm Would you like to add anything, Imperium? You've been rather quiet.
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Reply #151 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 5:18pm

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A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”.

Funny.
The leftist ideology for most would be to question and examine the order of things which exist. If there is a problem with that order then there would be a push by the left to fix that or bring attention to it.

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Reply #152 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 6:11pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 5:18pm:

... wrote on Feb 9^th, 2012 at 4:39pm:

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A declaration of war against the order of things which exist, against the state of things which exist, in a word, against the structure of the world which presently exists”.

Funny.
The leftist ideology for most would be to question and examine the order of things which exist. If there is a problem with that order then there would be a push by the left to fix that or bring attention to it.

That is what the left of any given era try to do. But todays left is predicated on a faulty theory. The very foundations are rotten, so anythign you build on them is doomed to fail.

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Reply #153 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 6:43pm

So, to summarise, leftist ideology seeks to wage a war on the natural order of things that have existed for a billion years.

Not the hydrogen atom or gravity, but important things like racialism, marriage and gender roles which were designed by nature.

Not God-ordained things like the divine right of kings, the infallibility of the church, or the right of the landed aristocracy to own their subjects and their labour - these things don't count.

What matters is the inherent difference between the races and the sexes. This is important because the leftists pretend these things don't exist. If the leftists just agreed how important they are, we could all get together and have a big laugh about it all.

First, of course, we would have to do away with all the silly talk of inclusion and equality, and re-establish segregation and division. We would need to put Ladies Lounges back in the pubs and send the blacks back to their squalid humpies down by the river - if a mining company doesn't need the space for business.

This is the way it's always been, so it's important that we agree to make things right. We should stop pretending that blacks, coloureds, women and subnormals have anything to offer, or that they could ever be equal to the white man (ha!). We should stop pretending to consult with them, let them make decisions for themselves and all that other leftist PC nonsense.

I hope I've got this right. Please feel free to add anything if I've left it out.

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Reply #154 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 6:48pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Emma wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 10:57am:

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jalane wrote
You sound a lot like a 'creep' I knew who needed a couple of bullets to get his head straight.

So for questioning the orthodoxy of feminism I need to be killed. Nice. This just goes to show the fascist tendencies that lie beneath the drive to impose equality.

Nah... he didn't die.. He JUST LEARNT A LITTLE RESPECT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grin

for his betters. Forget equality..... as some one posted earlier --- For Women to seek equality with Men shows a lack of ambition.. or something.

Incoherent rambling.

What are you trying to say?

I said it. You can't understand?? Huh

I wrote a much longer screed which once again mysteriously disappeared due to 'intermitent connection problems'. Seems to happen quite frequently, especially when replying at length.. to certain posters.
So I won't bother, in future, to reply at any length.

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #155 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 6:50pm Nice one Karnal. At least I can appreciate your humor.!!
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95651 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #156 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 6:58pm Humour?
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #157 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:09pm - yep.. don't they say 'sarcasm is the lowest form of humor?'. I enjoyed your post immensely, You say humour I say humor..let's call the whole thing off.!!!
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Reply #158 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:12pm

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

So, to summarise, leftist ideology seeks to wage a war on the natural order of things that have existed for a billion years.

Not the hydrogen atom or gravity, but important things like racialism, marriage and gender roles which were designed by nature.

Not God-ordained things like the divine right of kings, the infallibility of the church, or the right of the landed aristocracy to own their subjects and their labour - these things don't count.

What matters is the inherent difference between the races and the sexes. This is important because the leftists pretend these things don't exist. If the leftists just agreed how important they are, we could all get together and have a big laugh about it all.

First, of course, we would have to do away with all the silly talk of inclusion and equality, and re-establish segregation and division. We would need to put Ladies Lounges back in the pubs and send the blacks back to their squalid humpies down by the river - if a mining company doesn't need the space for business.

This is the way it's always been, so it's important that we agree to make things right. We should stop pretending that blacks, coloureds, women and subnormals have anything to offer, or that they could ever be equal to the white man (ha!). We should stop pretending to consult with them, let them make decisions for themselves and all that other leftist PC nonsense.

I hope I've got this right. Please feel free to add anything if I've left out.

Merit.

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Reply #159 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:20pm

Emma wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 6:48pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Emma wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 10:57am:

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jalane wrote
You sound a lot like a 'creep' I knew who needed a couple of bullets to get his head straight.

So for questioning the orthodoxy of feminism I need to be killed. Nice. This just goes to show the fascist tendencies that lie beneath the drive to impose equality.

Nah... he didn't die.. He JUST LEARNT A LITTLE RESPECT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Grin

for his betters. Forget equality..... as some one posted earlier --- For Women to seek equality with Men shows a lack of ambition.. or something.

Incoherent rambling.

What are you trying to say?

I said it. You can't understand?? Huh

I wrote a much longer screed which once again mysteriously disappeared due to 'intermitent connection problems'. Seems to happen quite frequently, especially when replying at length.. to certain posters.
So I won't bother, in future, to reply at any length.

Well, you could try presenting an argument of some description instead of resorting to personal abuse. Raw emotion just doesn't cut it.

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Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell
Reply #160 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:22pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 11:23pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 11:20pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 11:13pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 10^th, 2012 at 10:27pm:

That must have stung for you to bring it up after all this time. I am privileged, I don't think I'm smug.

How do womens claims of male oppression emasculate men?

Once the 3rd wave hits equality is already in full swing. But the 3rd wavers weren't happy with that, they had to keep lambasting men where ever they felt oppression existed, even though evidence of oppression rarely existed.

So even though equality of opportunity and equal pay etc exists, there is still the claim that women are oppressed. So guilt is (further) used as a tool to make men feel bad for being successful, rich, powerful: They must then exhibit sorrow for being outgoing and driven to succeed. They must wallow in self-pity and feel shame every time he exerts himself.

Self-pity, self-shame = emasculation.
Pride, self-confidence = masculine.

I think that's the biggest load of crap I've seen you write here.

Bravo.

It's hard to argue against that.

As a man, I'm embarrassed by that post.

Sexist. There's no such thing as men or women, only culturally inscribed practices.

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Reply #161 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:23pm

Soren wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:12pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 11^th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

So, to summarise, leftist ideology seeks to wage a war on the natural order of things that have existed for a billion years.

Not the hydrogen atom or gravity, but important things like racialism, marriage and gender roles which were designed by nature.

Not God-ordained things like the divine right of kings, the infallibility of the church, or the right of the landed aristocracy to own their subjects and their labour - these things don't count.

What matters is the inherent difference between the races and the sexes. This is important because the leftists pretend these things don't exist. If the leftists just agreed how important they are, we could all get together and have a big laugh about it all.

First, of course, we would have to do away with all the silly talk of inclusion and equality, and re-establish segregation and division. We would need to put Ladies Lounges back in the pubs and send the blacks back to their squalid humpies down by the river - if a mining company doesn't need the space for business.

This is the way it's always been, so it's important that we agree to make things right. We should stop pretending that blacks, coloureds, women and subnormals have anything to offer, or that they could ever be equal to the white man (ha!). We should stop pretending to consult with them, let them make decisions for themselves and all that other leftist PC nonsense.

I hope I've got this right. Please feel free to add anything if I've left out.

Merit.

Thanks, old boy. Merit too. If women, coloureds, blacks, subnormals or homosexuals want to become dentists or fork-lift drivers or Pakistani-relations consultants, they should have the right qualifications.

Good point.

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Reply #162 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 7:47pm

"Well, you could try presenting an argument of some description instead of resorting to personal abuse. Raw emotion just doesn't cut it." - Quote BD

Could say the same for you.
I am saying that your posts are ALSO personal attacks, against women, who contribute to this forum.
You make declarations - based on YOUR views. YOUR opinions.
Your declarations are just as emotional as mine.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #163 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:08pm I love how people with obviously blunt and stunted emotional capabilities dismiss anyone who shows them - and on subjects that particularly call for an emotional response. Emotion doesn't make an argument invalid.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95651 Gender:	Re: leftist ideology in a nutshell Reply #164 - Feb 11^th, 2012 at 8:16pm Righties and progressives sometimes get a bit sensitive. It's okay to slur the blacks, coloureds, subnormals and women - we're superior to them. Don't feel insulted if you're black, coloured, subnormal or subhuman, it's just a fact.
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