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Re: The Palestinian Gandhi?
Reply #15 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 10:56pm

Soren wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:48pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:38pm:

Cute. You act like you still expect me to acknowledge and seriously consider anything you write.

You married a Leb. You converted to Islam, then left Islam. You still suck up to Islamists in the most cringeworthy manner. You listen to a great variety of inane pop music.

Of course you will ignore me. You have ignored every sensible advice in all your life. You are not going to change that on an internet forum.

Ignore away. Be true to yourself.

You throw those things at me like they're bad. They're all true (except the sucking up part) and I'm not ashamed of any of them. Certainly, if you disapprove I must be on the right track. Call it...validation.

Now go away, would you? I've made it quite clear I'm not interested in interacting with you.

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Reply #16 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 12:12pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:04pm:

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"Mr Adnan's family insists that he has never been involved in violence...."

He has been arrested before and never charged with a violent crime - can you prove that is wrong? He has not been charged with anything at all now. Are you comfortable with that?

Amnesty and HRW have both called for his immediate release. Do they support terrorists?

Given which side of the fence they firmly sat on during Operation Cast Lead and their one eyed reporting, and again degraced themselves during Mavi Marmara saga one could conclude a resounding yes to that question Annie.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: The Palestinian Gandhi? Reply #17 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 2:24pm You've got to be joking. For a usually intellgent human being, you are unbelievably/wilfully blind when it comes to Israeli atrocities committed against Palestinians. NGOs had every right to condemn Operation Cast Lead. Let me guess - Rachel Corrie was a terrorist too? Or was her murder an accident?
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Reply #18 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 5:03pm

Soren wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

falah wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:27pm:

Abu Qatada is an evil bastard but he hasn't been charged with anything in the UK.

If he is so evil, how come he has not been charged by UK police?

Because he doesn't rape kids like a priest or traffic human organs like a rabbi.

No.
Because you exploit a legal system.
Under comparable circumstances, if such a bastard was in your powers, you would have cut his throat 7 years ago. In public.
But you buggers are exploiting our scruples.

You are such a hypocrite. You believe in "freedom of speech" as long as people say what you want them to.

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Reply #19 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 5:06pm

falah wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:23pm:

falah wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:15pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:27pm:

Abu Qatada is an evil bastard but he hasn't been charged with anything in the UK.

If he is so evil, how come he has not been charged by UK police?

Because he doesn't rape kids like a priest or traffic human organs like a rabbi.

No.
Because you exploit a legal system.
Under comparable circumstances, if such a bastard was in your powers, you would have cut his throat 7 years ago. In public.
But you buggers are exploiting our scruples.

You are such a hypocrite. You believe in "freedom of speech" as long as people say what you want them to.

Entering a country on a false passport is not freedom of speech. Not even for Muslim clerics.

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Reply #20 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 7:14pm

Soren wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

Entering a country on a false passport is not freedom of speech.

It's what refugees do.

You would probably praise Jews escaping religious persecution in Nazi Germany.

This guy has escaped religious persecution from both the oppressive Israelis and the the dictatorial Jordanian government.

An Australian PM called this guy a hero for smuggling people:

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Rudd's hero, the people smuggler

Kevin Rudd's hero, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, was a people smuggler. And our prime minister knows it.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the German theologian put to death for his complicity with those who attempted to assassinate Adolf Hitler, was ''a theologian, pastor and peace activist ... a man of faith ... a man of reason'' - and a people-smuggler. As Rudd himself wrote further in the October 2006 edition of The Monthly, Bonhoeffer ''organised the secret evacuation of a number of German Jews to Switzerland''...

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/blogs/episodes/rudds-hero-the-people-smuggler-20091020-h6xn.html

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Reply #21 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 7:21pm

You'd die if you couldn't talk about a Jew, no matter what the topic.
You guys are barking mad.

Anyway, Abu Qatada is no hero.

Abu Qatada al-Filistini (Arabic: أبو قتادة الفلسطيني‎, 'Abū Qatāda al-Filisṭīnī; born 1959/60), sometimes called Abu Omar (ابو عمر Abū 'Umar), is a Palestinian Islamist militant of Jordanian citizenship. Under the name Omar Mahmoud Othman (عمر محمود عثمان 'Umar Mamūd 'Uthmān), he is under worldwide embargo by the United Nations Security Council Committee 1267 for his affiliation with al-Qaeda.[1][2] Although imprisoned in the UK since 2005, he has not been prosecuted for any criminal or conspiracy offences.[3] He is wanted on terrorism charges in Algeria,[4] the United States, Belgium, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, and his native Jordan.[5]

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Reply #22 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:27pm

Soren wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 7:21pm:

You'd die if you couldn't talk about a Jew, no matter what the topic.

Sounds more like you would die if you couldn't defend your Jew buddies.

Soren wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 7:21pm:

You guys are barking mad.

ditto

Soren wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 7:21pm:

Anyway, Abu Qatada is no hero.

Never said he was. Although you have to respect someone who will speak out against powerful governments, when they face likelihood of death and torture for doing so.

Soren wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 7:21pm:

Abu Qatada al-Filistini (Arabic: أبو قتادة الفلسطيني‎, 'Abū Qatāda al-Filisṭīnī; born 1959/60), sometimes called Abu Omar (ابو عمر Abū 'Umar), is a Palestinian Islamist militant of Jordanian citizenship. Under the name Omar Mahmoud Othman (عمر محمود عثمان 'Umar Mamūd 'Uthmān), he is under worldwide embargo by the United Nations Security Council Committee 1267 for his affiliation with al-Qaeda.[1][2] Although imprisoned in the UK since 2005, he has not been prosecuted for any criminal or conspiracy offences.[3] He is wanted on terrorism charges in Algeria,[4] the United States, Belgium, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, and his native Jordan.[5]

If he has done something wrong, then why doesn't the UK charge him?

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Reply #23 - Feb 23^rd, 2012 at 7:40pm

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The Palestinian prisoner Khader Adnan ended his 66 day hunger strike yesterday after Israel agreed to release him in mid-April provided that no “significant” new evidence is found against him.

Under a deal struck by the Israeli authorities and signed by one of his lawyers, Mr Adnan, a member of Islamic Jihad, stands to be freed three weeks earlier than planned after conducting the longest ever hunger strike by a Palestinian prisoner.

The deal was struck shortly before Mr Adnan’s case was due for an emergency hearing by the Israeli Supreme Court, which had been brought forward from Thursday because of deepening concerns about the critical condition of the detainee being held under guard in an Israeli hospital.

Mr Adnan’s case had triggered protest demonstrations in the West Bank and Gaza, and token hunger strikes by Palestinian prisoners in Israeli gaols. It had also prompted mounting international concern.

Under the deal, Israeli authorities promised not to issue a new order to extend his four month administrative detention unless additional “new significant and substantive material” is found against him. And they have agreed to include the 21 days he initially spent under investigation within the four month detention period. This means the detention period will end on April 17 instead of May 8.

Mr Adnan’s fast has focused fresh attention on the practice of administrative detention under which Palestinians are held without charge or trial and on the basis of secret evidence which can be shown to a military court but not to the defendant or his lawyers.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/palestinian-prisoner-khader-adnan-ends-hunger-strike-7278845.html

Obviously he's not a threat then and the whole detention is just another example of Israel's persecution of innocent Palestinians.

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Re: The Palestinian Gandhi?
Reply #24 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 12:09pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 2:24pm:

You've got to be joking. For a usually intellgent human being, you are unbelievably/wilfully blind when it comes to Israeli atrocities committed against Palestinians. NGOs had every right to condemn Operation Cast Lead.

Those same NGO's stayed silent whilst terrorists missiles were landing on the streets of Sderot eh, and have done so for years.
And they also failed to see children being held by terrorists around missile firing points, but managed to report on Israeli return fire instead.
They failed to see school and hospital grounds being used to attack Israel from, but still managed to report on Israeli return fire.
The real question is how many missiles are to explode in Israeli towns and streets before Israel is allowed to defend itself according to an NGO.
Because 12,000 isn't the magic figure Annie.
The NGO's failed to see the children being used by Hamas as forward spotters in the combat zone.
The NGO's failed to report that much intelligence was provided by Gaza citizens to the IDF who were sick of having their property used as missile launch pads by Hamas.
The NGO's just failed.
And the NGO's only saw what they wanted to see.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The Palestinian Gandhi? Reply #25 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 8:07pm
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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: The Palestinian Gandhi? Reply #26 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 8:33pm
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The Palestinian Gandhi? Reply #27 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 8:48pm I stand with Israel. You should, too.
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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: The Palestinian Gandhi? Reply #28 - Feb 24^th, 2012 at 9:04pm American Jew Shown Israeli Human Rights By Israeli Police Would You Like These Jewish Settlers For Neighbours?
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Reply #29 - Feb 27^th, 2012 at 11:56am

falah wrote on Feb 24^th, 2012 at 8:33pm:

http://www.blackcommentator.com/367/367_images/367_cartoon_prevent_holocaust_bom...

http://www.pambazuka.org/images/articles/484/pirates-gado_cartoon.jpg

http://usmediaandisrael.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/israel-lobby-boot-usmedia...

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http://www.davegranlund.com/cartoons/wp-content/uploads/color-west-bnksettle1-we...

http://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/bethlehem-cartoon-mary-jos...

Nice left wing tripe falah.
But tripe none the less.

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