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Tim Flannery: fails forecasting exam
Mar 1^st, 2012 at 2:59pm

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Weather forecasting is obviously not Professor Tim Flannery's forte

METEOROLOGISTS suggested Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery leave weather forecasting to them as the big wet defies his prediction rain would become scarce.

In 2007 Professor Flannery said Sydney, Adelaide and Brisbane were in urgent need of desalination plants.

Four years on, Warragamba Dam is on the verge of overflowing and Brisbane last year endured the worst flooding in almost four decades.

After yesterday discovering Professor Flannery is not a meteorologist, the Weather Channel's meteorologists said it was probably best he left the forecasting to them.

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/weather-forecasting-is-obviously-not-professor-tim-flannerys-forte/story-e6freuzi-1226285558977

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Tim Flannery: fails forecasting exam Reply #1 - Mar 1^st, 2012 at 3:33pm The de-sal plant is a long term investment designed to safeguard sydney against drought. In case anyone hadnt noticed, sydney is still growing, and its catchment area is not. Complaining about a drought strategy in times of flood is foolish beyond compare.
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Reply #2 - Mar 1^st, 2012 at 4:17pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 3:33pm:

The de-sal plant is a long term investment designed to safeguard sydney against drought.

In case anyone hadnt noticed, sydney is still growing, and its catchment area is not.

Complaining about a drought strategy in times of flood is foolish beyond compare.

the thread is about flannery's predictions which were about as wrong as it is possible to get.

another ACC hysteric takes a very public drubbing.

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Reply #3 - Mar 1^st, 2012 at 4:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 4:17pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 3:33pm:

The de-sal plant is a long term investment designed to safeguard sydney against drought.

In case anyone hadnt noticed, sydney is still growing, and its catchment area is not.

Complaining about a drought strategy in times of flood is foolish beyond compare.

the thread is about flannery's predictions which were about as wrong as it is possible to get.

another ACC hysteric takes a very public drubbing.

as usual, you fail to provide flannery's quote in full, which clearly states, your honour, that Mr Flannery was talking about the future in many decades where drought will be more severe than it has ever been, and your honour, de-sal plant kicking in at 70% or below, as its is brief, will safeguard sydney water for much longer than it is now. The defence rests its case.

You spin bs, and then you spin some more. Such is the way of the deniers.

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Tim Flannery: fails forecasting exam Reply #4 - Mar 1^st, 2012 at 6:07pm Meanwhile the Antarctic is breaking up. A 900 square kilometre iceberg is in the process of being calved http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/gigantic-antarctic-crack-mapped... No ... climate change isn't happening. You deniers were right all along!
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Reply #5 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 1:56pm

Ice bergs have been breaking off the Arctic and Antartic for millions f year Gist, there's nothing new in that old acorn. Like all the other crap the scientists are dredging about climate change, YES there is climate change and evolution, as Elvis would say, That's the way it is."

Flannery is a bloody idiot and those climate change wankers had to change it from Global Warming to Climate Change because the dickheads keep getting it wrong.

Bu they do know all...f...k all!

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95313 Gender:	Re: Tim Flannery: fails forecasting exam Reply #6 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:06pm We knew the Telegraph would post a climate change article after the latest floods. It was just a matter of when. Climate scientists do know f..ck all. About the only thing they've predicted is an increase in extreme climate events - like droughts, floods, tsunamis, cyclones, etc, etc, etc.
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Reply #7 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:08pm

Gist wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Meanwhile the Antarctic is breaking up. A 900 square kilometre iceberg is in the process of being calved Shocked

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/gigantic-antarctic-crack-mapped...

No ... climate change isn't happening. You deniers were right all along! Roll Eyes

You hear about this alot.

I've always wondered what effect all the ice breaking has.

Seems to be more and bigger ice breakers calving up the ice everywhere these days.

Undecided

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Reply #8 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 7:02am

Gist wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Meanwhile the Antarctic is breaking up. A 900 square kilometre iceberg is in the process of being calved Shocked

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/gigantic-antarctic-crack-mapped...

No ... climate change isn't happening. You deniers were right all along! Roll Eyes

Oooooowwwww.
We've never had icebergs before.
The climate must be changing.
Lets have an air tax and change the climate. Grin

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Reply #9 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 10:50am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 7:02am:

Gist wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Meanwhile the Antarctic is breaking up. A 900 square kilometre iceberg is in the process of being calved Shocked

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/gigantic-antarctic-crack-mapped...

No ... climate change isn't happening. You deniers were right all along! Roll Eyes

Oooooowwwww.
We've never had icebergs before.
The climate must be changing.
Lets have an air tax and change the climate. Grin

There's an excellent book by Jared Diamond called "Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Survive" which investigates the collapse of several societies in the past and present. It's worth reading. Anyway, in there Diamond asks the question as to what may have been going through the mind of the polynesians on Easter Island as they cut down their last tree to move their stone statues.

Posts like yours and the others may help answer that question chook.

By the way, there's a fairly large chapter on Australia. Like I say, worth reading.

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Reply #10 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 11:07am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 7:02am:

Oooooowwwww.
We've never had icebergs before.
The climate must be changing.
Lets have an air tax and change the climate. Grin

Good example of this:

Reductionism 101:
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Example:
Statement:
60 million people died as a result of World War II

Reductionist stock answer:
Oooooowwwww.
We've never had people die before.

or:

People have been dying for millions of year, There's nothing new in that old acorn.

(The devil is in the detail.)

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Reply #11 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 11:13am

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:08pm:

Gist wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Meanwhile the Antarctic is breaking up. A 900 square kilometre iceberg is in the process of being calved Shocked

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/gigantic-antarctic-crack-mapped...

No ... climate change isn't happening. You deniers were right all along! Roll Eyes

You hear about this alot.

I've always wondered what effect all the ice breaking has.

Seems to be more and bigger ice breakers calving up the ice everywhere these days.

Undecided

That's relatively thin sea ice. If they meddle with Icebergs, they end up with a chamber orchestra on the deck playing "Nearer my God to thee"

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Reply #12 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 11:16am

Doctor Jolly wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 3:33pm:

The de-sal plant is a long term investment designed to safeguard sydney against drought.

In case anyone hadnt noticed, sydney is still growing, and its catchment area is not.

Complaining about a drought strategy in times of flood is foolish beyond compare.

especially as the 30 day SOI just dipped below zero near the end of February. The current flooding rains could change in a matter of years.

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Reply #13 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 11:33am

muso wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 11:13am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:08pm:

Gist wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Meanwhile the Antarctic is breaking up. A 900 square kilometre iceberg is in the process of being calved Shocked

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/gigantic-antarctic-crack-mapped...

No ... climate change isn't happening. You deniers were right all along! Roll Eyes

You hear about this alot.

I've always wondered what effect all the ice breaking has.

Seems to be more and bigger ice breakers calving up the ice everywhere these days.

Undecided

That's relatively thin sea ice. If they meddle with Icebergs, they end up with a chamber orchestra on the deck playing "Nearer my God to thee"

Yep, i know, but i'm talking about the region, the entire pack, surely that entire ice pack suffers from the gaps created by ice breaking. Like chipping away at the edge and never letting the pack freeze totally?

Anyway i was watching a doco and the size of the ice breakers and the amount of ice breakng that happens these days, just made me wonder.

(wouldn't be helping)

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Reply #14 - Mar 3^rd, 2012 at 1:24pm

salad in wrote on Mar 1^st, 2012 at 2:59pm:

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Weather forecasting is obviously not Professor Tim Flannery's forte

METEOROLOGISTS suggested Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery leave weather forecasting to them as the big wet defies his prediction rain would become scarce.

In 2007 Professor Flannery said Sydney, Adelaide and Brisbane were in urgent need of desalination plants.

Four years on, Warragamba Dam is on the verge of overflowing and Brisbane last year endured the worst flooding in almost four decades.

After yesterday discovering Professor Flannery is not a meteorologist, the Weather Channel's meteorologists said it was probably best he left the forecasting to them.

[...]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/weather-forecasting-is-obviously-not-professor-tim-flannerys-forte/story-e6freuzi-1226285558977

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Well I think he got it very wrong.

Windsor/Richmond low lying areas will be under by tomorrow morning and I should have the water views back.

Just keep these tourists away... they are causing a very big problem!!

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