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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #15 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:47pm

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Will Labor now recognise Palestine's right to a seat at the UN.

Also, if supporting Palestine, will Labor back the BDS

The Palestinian authorities refuse to sign and implement the United Nations universal declaration of human rights because human rights violate Islamic law.

I think a condition of entry to the UN should also include that country ratifying human rights with the UN standards not something from a dusty old book from the dark ages.

Palestine wants a seat on the UN yet they cannot accept the United nations version of human rights, that is the people the greens support.

Greenie loser you said the greens want to protect Islam which is a fascist totalitarian style of governing with no respect for human rights as we know them.
Islam is a political ideology and you want to protect an ideology that kills people for apostasy,blasphemy,homosexuality,it stones people to death for adultery,is that the ideology the greens are so eager to embrace and protect?

A thread on Islam vs The Universal declaration of human rights here-
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1327799946

If we boycott Israel does that mean no more precision weapons for our FA18 as the optical technology in those weapons is from Israel.

The Saudis are far more oppressive than the Israelis look at how Hamza Kashgari is being persecuted for thoughts he put on twitter.

The Greens are a joke

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #17 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:52pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:47pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:05pm:

Will Labor now recognise Palestine's right to a seat at the UN.

Also, if supporting Palestine, will Labor back the BDS

The Palestinian authorities refuse to sign and implement the United Nations universal declaration of human rights because human rights violate Islamic law.

I think a condition of entry to the UN should also include that country ratifying human rights with the UN standards not something from a dusty old book from the dark ages.

Palestine wants a seat on the UN yet they cannot accept the United nations version of human rights, that is the people the greens support.

Greenie loser you said the greens want to protect Islam which is a fascist totalitarian style of governing with no respect for human rights as we know them.
Islam is a political ideology and you want to protect an ideology that kills people for apostasy,blasphemy,homosexuality,it stones people to death for adultery,is that the ideology the greens are so eager to embrace and protect?

A thread on Islam vs The Universal declaration of human rights here-
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1327799946

If we boycott Israel does that mean no more precision weapons for our FA18 as the optical technology in those weapons is from Israel.

The Saudis are far more oppressive than the Israelis look at how Hamza Kashgari is being persecuted for thoughts he put on twitter.

The Greens are a joke

I have not stated that in typed word or voice.

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #18 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:44pm:

If Labor supports Palestine it will p*ss off two significant allies to Australia.

Israel and the United States.

P*ss them off? I'd say it's pretty hard to be p*ssed off when EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands.

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #19 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:42pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:39pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:22pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:15pm:

The UN is a pathetic organisation.

Who gives a bugger about Palestine?

There you go, all fixed. Wink

The UN is currently our main system for world governing.

On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government.

Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy.

Time to decide.

SO.

One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work.

Yet we have to decide

The UN or a Democratic One World Government.

Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes.

Why?

How about neither. Wink

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #20 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:01pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:42pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:39pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:22pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:15pm:

The UN is a pathetic organisation.

Who gives a bugger about Palestine?

There you go, all fixed. Wink

The UN is currently our main system for world governing.

On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government.

Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy.

Time to decide.

SO.

One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work.

Yet we have to decide

The UN or a Democratic One World Government.

Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes.

Why?

How about neither. Wink

Then how do we sort issues between nations and on global scale ... via war?

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #21 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:04pm

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:01pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:42pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:39pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:22pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:15pm:

The UN is a pathetic organisation.

Who gives a bugger about Palestine?

There you go, all fixed. Wink

The UN is currently our main system for world governing.

On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government.

Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy.

Time to decide.

SO.

One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work.

Yet we have to decide

The UN or a Democratic One World Government.

Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes.

Why?

How about neither. Wink

Then how do we sort issues between nations and on global scale ... via war?

Not via an organisation that lets in any despot leader, that's for sure.

No one obeys their poxy resolutions any way.

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #22 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:07pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:42pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:39pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:22pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:15pm:

The UN is a pathetic organisation.

Who gives a bugger about Palestine?

There you go, all fixed. Wink

The UN is currently our main system for world governing.

On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government.

Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy.

Time to decide.

SO.

One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work.

Yet we have to decide

The UN or a Democratic One World Government.

Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes.

Why?

How about neither. Wink

Good point. And while we're at it, lets do away with the internet, foreign trade, the telegraph, all transnational communication, regional decision-making bodies and trading blocks, multinational corporations, currency speculation, foreign investment, people smuggling and cheap airfares.

That should fix it.

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #23 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:07pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:44pm:

If Labor supports Palestine it will p*ss off two significant allies to Australia.

Israel and the United States.

P*ss them off? I'd say it's pretty hard to be p*ssed off when EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands.

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #24 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:10pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:04pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:01pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:42pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:39pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:22pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:15pm:

The UN is a pathetic organisation.

Who gives a bugger about Palestine?

There you go, all fixed. Wink

The UN is currently our main system for world governing.

On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government.

Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy.

Time to decide.

SO.

One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work.

Yet we have to decide

The UN or a Democratic One World Government.

Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes.

Why?

How about neither. Wink

Then how do we sort issues between nations and on global scale ... via war?

Not via an organisation that lets in any despot leader, that's for sure.

No one obeys their poxy resolutions any way.

Then how?

How do you think we should operate if you disagree with the UN

Start from the ground up and build a one world democratic government?

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #26 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:13pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:07pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:42pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:39pm:

____ wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:22pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 2:15pm:

The UN is a pathetic organisation.

Who gives a bugger about Palestine?

There you go, all fixed. Wink

The UN is currently our main system for world governing.

On one hand people hate the UN, and on the other they oppose forming a democratic one world government.

Well people, it's one or the other, or the third option : Anarchy.

Time to decide.

SO.

One world government is just a pile of horse crap that will never happen and never work.

Yet we have to decide

The UN or a Democratic One World Government.

Then work through that system to gain the best outcomes.

Why?

How about neither. Wink

Good point. And while we're at it, lets do away with the internet, foreign trade, the telegraph, all transnational communication, regional decision-making bodies and trading blocks, multinational corporations, currency speculation, foreign investment, people smuggling and cheap airfares.

That should fix it.

Thanks moron... Roll Eyes

....come on pony, roll over, roll over Grin

Nah, seriously, an assembly full of tinpot poo holes and their murderous dictators can bugger right off.

I do agree that people smuggling should be stopped, good for you on that one.

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #27 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:15pm

blackadder wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:12pm:

EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands.

You must have got hold of some goodshit!

I might have left someone out. I think the foreign office in Burundi are currently debating their position.

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #28 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:18pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:13pm:

Nah, seriously, an assembly full of tinpot poo holes and their murderous dictators can bugger right off.

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I see. You think some countries should be left out of global decision-making. Do you base this on their puppet governments, Friyay, or their attractiveness as tourist destinations?

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Re: Labor's UN Non Permanent Seat Bid
Reply #29 - Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:24pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:15pm:

blackadder wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2012 at 3:12pm:

EVERY country in the world supports Palestine except Israel, the US, Australia and, I think, Kazakstan and the Marshal Islands.

You must have got hold of some goodshit!

I might have left someone out. I think the foreign office in Burundi are currently debating their position.

The representative of Australia expressed strong support for Palestine’s sovereignty, saying his country was taking practical steps, including donating $300 million over the next five years. Australia had changed its negative vote to an abstention, instead of supporting the text, because it did not recognize Israel’s legitimate security needs. Australia was committed to the peace process and to a negotiated two-State solution, he said, urging the two sides to return to direct talks as a matter of urgency.

Seems like reasonable support. Undecided

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