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Reply #15 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:21pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:16pm:

Israel has taken action on any number of occasions on Israeli citizens relating to activities of that nature.

Last year, Israeli soldiers intervened and arrested several Jewish settlers for firing into the Palestinian occupied territory.

Let's try and paint a reasonably fair picture of events please.

I think you'd better read up on the destructive effects on Israeli society afflicted on it by the ultra-conservative orthodox... Worse than any Israeli / Arab conflict on Israeli society.

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Reply #16 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:30pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 10:22am:

This was awesome.

There was a pro-Palestine demo in LA the other month and a load of Jews rocked up in these Tee shirts.

Gotta love the Israelis. Take no sh*t from the Arabs!

Ill bugger mossad in its ass

No you won't.

It was easy [and not at all dangerous] for armed Germans [Nazis] to herd unarmed Jews onto cattle trucks, and unload them, into concentration camps.

But armed Jews ?

No one will mess with the Jewish people again, now that they have their own state, and now that they are armed, and now that the Jewish people have the will to defend themselves.

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Reply #17 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:33pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 12:00pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 10:22am:

This was awesome.

There was a pro-Palestine demo in LA the other month and a load of Jews rocked up in these Tee shirts.

Gotta love the Israelis. Take no sh*t from the Arabs!

Ill bugger mossad in its ass

And you will come off worse.

MOSSAD's take no sh*t attitude earns my eternal respect.

They will reap what they have sown

While Mossad's enemies never will [reap what they have sown] ???

LOL

In your dreams.

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Reply #18 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:35pm

I quote my good old university housemate.

A guy born in Detroit, parents from Germany who moved to Israel.

He even went and served 2 years in the Israeli Army to ensure he had his citizenship.

"What the holocaust did was create generations of people like me who will ensure, that by any means necessary, nobody will bugger with the Jews again"

An awesome quote that sums it up for millions, he is a great guy too.

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95949 Gender:	Re: The Israel Lobby Reply #19 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:36pm Yes, my friend, we Pakistanis have a quote like that too.
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Reply #20 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:37pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:04pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 12:24pm:

Keep condoning the slaughter of innocent people Andre; I hope it helps you sleep at night.

Mossad removes terror leaders.

Arab terrorists slaughter innocents by the scores.

Now if they would just do the same to their ultra-conservative Orthodox Jewish leaders...

LOL

And how likely is that ? Tongue

Matthew 12:25
.....Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

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Reply #21 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:

"What the holocaust did was create generations of people like me who will ensure, that by any means necessary, nobody will bugger with the Jews again"

Who's going to save the Israelis from the now politically and socially powerful ultra-orthodox rabbis?

Kind of ironic that Israel's greatest challenge to the state is the same as it's neighbouring Islamic enemies.

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Reply #22 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:42pm

Yadda wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:37pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:04pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 12:24pm:

Keep condoning the slaughter of innocent people Andre; I hope it helps you sleep at night.

Mossad removes terror leaders.

Arab terrorists slaughter innocents by the scores.

Now if they would just do the same to their ultra-conservative Orthodox Jewish leaders...

LOL

And how likely is that ? Tongue

Highly unlikely. Israel risks becoming as much a psychopathic theocratic state as Iran... Yahweh doth has a sense of humour.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21786 A cat with a view	Re: The Israel Lobby Reply #23 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:48pm Karnal wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:36pm: Yes, my friend, we Pakistanis have a quote like that too. K, You mean this one.... *"bugger India."* ???? Google; 'pakistan' means, land of the pure A land full of [cricket] cheats, more like it. The land of 97% moslems.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: The Israel Lobby Reply #24 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:50pm Israel is a modern democracy surrounded by neighbours who have attacked it without provocation on several occasions in the last 50 years. It is perfectly within its rights to act as it has done to remove threats to its existence. A blinding reason why it remains so strongly supported by the United States.
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Reply #25 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:50pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:35pm:

"What the holocaust did was create generations of people like me who will ensure, that by any means necessary, nobody will bugger with the Jews again"

Q.
Who's going to save the Israelis from the now politically and socially powerful ultra-orthodox rabbis?

A.
The Holy One of Israel.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: The Israel Lobby Reply #26 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:51pm Karnal, one minute you are a gun-toting 'Nam Veteran, the next a Pakistani eh? I didn't think Pakistan were in Vietnam?
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Reply #27 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:53pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:50pm:

Israel is a modern democracy surrounded by neighbours who have attacked it without provocation on several occasions in the last 50 years.

It is perfectly within its rights to act as it has done to remove threats to its existence.

And soon the threat to its current incarnation will come from within.

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Reply #28 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:56pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:53pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:50pm:

Israel is a modern democracy surrounded by neighbours who have attacked it without provocation on several occasions in the last 50 years.

It is perfectly within its rights to act as it has done to remove threats to its existence.

And soon the threat to its current incarnation will come from within.

Nonsense.
The current Government works well with the Orthodox Jewish lobbies.

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Reply #29 - Mar 5^th, 2012 at 2:04pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:53pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5^th, 2012 at 1:50pm:

Israel is a modern democracy surrounded by neighbours who have attacked it without provocation on several occasions in the last 50 years.

It is perfectly within its rights to act as it has done to remove threats to its existence.

And soon the threat to its current incarnation will come from within.

Nonsense.
The current Government works well with the Orthodox Jewish lobbies.

I think you'd better do some reading on this one.

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