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Reply #240 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:22pm

Grey wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

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And so who gives back Gaza and much of West Bank?

Yes it's some web that's been weaved. And Gaza? Grin

It's like saying Long Bay Prison is land returned to the aborigines.

I give you the tip Avram, when the power differential is as great as it is between Israelis and Palestinians only the powerful can afford to be generous. Israel keeps on pushing for a better deal. But its power is running like sand through its fingers. If you don't offer the Pals a deal that they can accept with dignity the future is tragic.

Avram would have a much better tip than your fanciful left wing one.
The only deal suitable to the Pals is for the destruction of Israel, and the death of all Jews.
The 'Pals' could have had their 'land' decades ago.
This is about killing Jews.
Nothing more.

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Reply #241 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 1:40pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

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And so who gives back Gaza and much of West Bank?

Yes it's some web that's been weaved. And Gaza? Grin

It's like saying Long Bay Prison is land returned to the aborigines.

I give you the tip Avram, when the power differential is as great as it is between Israelis and Palestinians only the powerful can afford to be generous. Israel keeps on pushing for a better deal. But its power is running like sand through its fingers. If you don't offer the Pals a deal that they can accept with dignity the future is tragic.

Avram would have a much better tip than your fanciful left wing one.
The only deal suitable to the Pals is for the destruction of Israel, and the death of all Jews.
The 'Pals' could have had their 'land' decades ago.
This is about killing Jews.
Nothing more.

Of course it isn't. There were Jews and Arabs living in Palestine peacefully together before the Zionists showed up.

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Reply #242 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 2:15pm

Grey wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

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And so who gives back Gaza and much of West Bank?

Yes it's some web that's been weaved. And Gaza? Grin

It's like saying Long Bay Prison is land returned to the aborigines.

I give you the tip Avram, when the power differential is as great as it is between Israelis and Palestinians only the powerful can afford to be generous. Israel keeps on pushing for a better deal. But its power is running like sand through its fingers. If you don't offer the Pals a deal that they can accept with dignity the future is tragic.

Avram would have a much better tip than your fanciful left wing one.
The only deal suitable to the Pals is for the destruction of Israel, and the death of all Jews.
The 'Pals' could have had their 'land' decades ago.
This is about killing Jews.
Nothing more.

Of course it isn't. There were Jews and Arabs living in Palestine peacefully together before the Zionists showed up.

Well, we don't have a time machine eh.
Israel is here to stay, and muslim fundamentalism ensures ongoing hatred for the Jews.
Children today in Gaza are being taught Jews are pigs, the Holocaust was a good thing and the only good Jew is a dead one.
This is the reality, not what happened during the Ottoman Empire two centuries ago.
So, once again.
In 2012, it's all about killing Jews.

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Reply #243 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 12:53pm

Of course it isn't. There were Jews and Arabs living in Palestine peacefully together before the Zionists showed up.
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Well, we don't have a time machine eh.
Israel is here to stay, and muslim fundamentalism ensures ongoing hatred for the Jews.
Children today in Gaza are being taught Jews are pigs, the Holocaust was a good thing and the only good Jew is a dead one. This is the reality, not what happened during the Ottoman Empire two centuries ago.
So, once again.
In 2012, it's all about killing Jews.

This is typical of the Zionist double standard. When citing reasons for Israels existence a tentative claim based on a state of affairs 2000 years ago is a solid. But an inconvenient truth 200 year old is ancient and irrelevant. In fact the peace between Jews and Arabs refers to a time decades ago rather than centuries.

Jews, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanase are all semites. Only divided by god and Zionist racist nonsense. If the racist nonsense has spread Zionists only have themselves to blame. For all his failings god had nothing to do with the equations of Yasser
Arafat and the PLO.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: The Israel Lobby Reply #244 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 12:57pm Grey -- it is the arabs who is causing this problem, not we.
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Reply #245 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:01pm

Grey wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

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And so who gives back Gaza and much of West Bank?

Yes it's some web that's been weaved. And Gaza? Grin

It's like saying Long Bay Prison is land returned to the aborigines.

I give you the tip Avram, when the power differential is as great as it is between Israelis and Palestinians only the powerful can afford to be generous. Israel keeps on pushing for a better deal. But its power is running like sand through its fingers. If you don't offer the Pals a deal that they can accept with dignity the future is tragic.

Avram would have a much better tip than your fanciful left wing one.
The only deal suitable to the Pals is for the destruction of Israel, and the death of all Jews.
The 'Pals' could have had their 'land' decades ago.
This is about killing Jews.
Nothing more.

Of course it isn't. There were Jews and Arabs living in Palestine peacefully together before the Zionists showed up.

True. Zionists will even attack non-Zionist jews to achieve their goals. This was the case in Iraq in the 1950's when Mossad bombed Jewish targets in order to encourage immigration to Israel.

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Reply #246 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:03pm

falah wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:01pm:

True. Zionists will even attack non-Zionist jews to achieve their goals. This was the case in Iraq in the 1950's when Mossad bombed Jewish targets in order to encourage immigration to Israel.

or for Jordan who deliberate keeps 1 million Palestinian in refugee camp and deny them entry into Jordan so can show as bad cases.

All the time before Jordan holds West Bank land and not give to Palestinians.

You know when Jordan say is Palestine??

Decades after they lost land to Israel after they aggression attack without provockation.

Why did they lose all the wars?

Because Israel is strong and arabs is cowards who run away when they has fire come back.

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Reply #247 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:28pm

falah wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:01pm:

or for Jordan who deliberate keeps 1 million Palestinian in refugee camp and deny them entry into Jordan so can show as bad cases.

Your Zionist lies fool nobody. The fact is that there are 2 million Palestinian refugees living in Jordan. Only 15% of them live in refugee camps.

The percentage of Palestinian refugees living in refugee camps to those who settled outside the camps is the lowest of all UNRWA fields of operations. Most refugees in Jordan were even given citizenship. In Jordan, Palestinian refugees are allowed access to public services and healthcare, as a result, refugee camps are becoming more of poor city suburbs than refugee camps

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:03pm:

Why did they lose all the wars?

Because they fought for nationalism instead of Islam. When the Islamic army marches towards Israel there will be no Israel left.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:03pm:

Because Israel is strong and arabs is cowards who run away when they has fire come back.

Yeah? Is Israel still ocupying Sinai, Lebanon and Gaza? Seems like they ran away with their tails between theuir legs.

When the 'brave' Israelis attack Gaza recently, they do so from airplanes or if using human shields on the ground:

Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/21/israeli-soldiers-human-shield-avoid-...

'Brave' Israeli soldiers wear t-shirts promoting killing pregnant women:

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: The Israel Lobby Reply #248 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:42pm 1. Why does he throw rocks at us? If he do not do this, he do not get arrest. 2. Was shown many times is not 9 years old. Please, stop believe all the false media.
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: The Israel Lobby Reply #249 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:47pm I has also see this tee shirts and is not official army tee shirt and is not allowed to be wear by IDF. I have letter with this comments say will be military warning if see wearing this. Is made by private company. This is official tee which i has and wear to gym with proud!
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Reply #250 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:50pm

Grey wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 12:53pm:

Of course it isn't. There were Jews and Arabs living in Palestine peacefully together before the Zionists showed up.
Quote:

Well, we don't have a time machine eh.
Israel is here to stay, and muslim fundamentalism ensures ongoing hatred for the Jews.
Children today in Gaza are being taught Jews are pigs, the Holocaust was a good thing and the only good Jew is a dead one. This is the reality, not what happened during the Ottoman Empire two centuries ago.
So, once again.
In 2012, it's all about killing Jews.

This is typical of the Zionist double standard. When citing reasons for Israels existence a tentative claim based on a state of affairs 2000 years ago is a solid. But an inconvenient truth 200 year old is ancient and irrelevant. In fact the peace between Jews and Arabs refers to a time decades ago rather than centuries.

Jews, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanase are all semites. Only divided by god and Zionist racist nonsense. If the racist nonsense has spread Zionists only have themselves to blame. For all his failings god had nothing to do with the equations of Yasser
Arafat and the PLO.

Whether you accept it or not, the Ottoman Empire is gone along with their magnanimous attitude towards other religions.
Those days are gone, and have been replaced by darker days.
There is no double standard in this.
They have been replaced by muslim fundamentalists.
This is the truth of 2012, not the Ottoman Empire.
And muslim fundamentalists want to kill Jews.
That's it.
And their children are taught to hate Jews.
And Israel is here to stay also whether you and your Jew hating muslim fundamentalist and left wing muslim apologists accept it or not.
It's staying.

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Re: The Israel Lobby
Reply #251 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:51pm

falah wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:01pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:22pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

[quote]And so who gives back Gaza and much of West Bank?

Yes it's some web that's been weaved. And Gaza? Grin

It's like saying Long Bay Prison is land returned to the aborigines.

I give you the tip Avram, when the power differential is as great as it is between Israelis and Palestinians only the powerful can afford to be generous. Israel keeps on pushing for a better deal. But its power is running like sand through its fingers. If you don't offer the Pals a deal that they can accept with dignity the future is tragic.

Avram would have a much better tip than your fanciful left wing one.
The only deal suitable to the Pals is for the destruction of Israel, and the death of all Jews.
The 'Pals' could have had their 'land' decades ago.
This is about killing Jews.
Nothing more.

Of course it isn't. There were Jews and Arabs living in Palestine peacefully together before the Zionists showed up.

True. Zionists will even attack non-Zionist jews to achieve their goals. This was the case in Iraq in the 1950's when Mossad bombed Jewish targets in order to encourage immigration to Israel.[/quote]

More left wing conspiracy theories from Falah.

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Reply #252 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:57pm

falah wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:28pm:

falah wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:01pm:

or for Jordan who deliberate keeps 1 million Palestinian in refugee camp and deny them entry into Jordan so can show as bad cases.

Your Zionist lies fool nobody. The fact is that there are 2 million Palestinian refugees living in Jordan. Only 15% of them live in refugee camps.

The percentage of Palestinian refugees living in refugee camps to those who settled outside the camps is the lowest of all UNRWA fields of operations. Most refugees in Jordan were even given citizenship. In Jordan, Palestinian refugees are allowed access to public services and healthcare, as a result, refugee camps are becoming more of poor city suburbs than refugee camps

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:03pm:

Why did they lose all the wars?

Because they fught for nationalism instead of Islam. When the Islamic army marches towards Israel there will be no Israel left.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:03pm:

Because Israel is strong and arabs is cowards who run away when they has fire come back.

Yeah? Is Israel still ocupying Sinai, Lebanon and Gaza? Seems like they ran away with their tails between theuir legs.

When the 'brave' Israelis attack Gaza recently, they do so from airplanes or if using human shields on the ground:

http://www.palestineremembered.com/images/dailymail_humanshield.jpg

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/uploads/1256368345israel_human_shields.jpg

Israeli soldiers who used Palestinian boy, 9, as a human shield avoid jail

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/21/israeli-soldiers-human-shield-avoid-...

'Brave' Israeli soldiers wear t-shirts promoting killing pregnant women:

http://www.infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/israeli-army-killers.j...

Wow Falah, found a picture of a boy sitting on a car.
Wow Falah, found a picture of a boy in protective custody during a firefight.
Wow Falah, found a picture of a man with an inappropriate motif on his T-Shirt.
What other Jew hating photo's you have tucked away Falah, hopelessly trying to make a story that just isn't there. Grin

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: The Israel Lobby Reply #253 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:58pm This Jew admits to being involved in Zionists attacks against Jews: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naeim_Giladi
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: The Israel Lobby Reply #254 - Mar 28^th, 2012 at 2:05pm falah wrote on Mar 28^th, 2012 at 1:58pm: This Jew admits to being involved in Zionists attacks against Jews: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naeim_Giladi http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Naeim_giladi_book.jpg Oh yes Giladi. He is known in Israel. Come from Iraq and hate the state of Israel.
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