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Reply #30 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:09pm
 
If you are talking about the occasional nutter then yes, they are causing trouble.

80/20 rule though applies and Netanyahu has placated them on any number of domestic issues, including an increase in settlements in the next 5 years.
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Reply #31 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm
 
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime
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Reply #32 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:27pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime



Anti-Semitism alive and well.

It is against this prejudice that Israel continues to fight its corner.
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Reply #33 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:29pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:27pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime



Anti-Semitism alive and well.

It is against this prejudice that Israel continues to fight its corner.
Once again if not supporting the slaughter of innocent people by the terrorist state Israel is anti semitic then I am anti semitic

Israel will get what it deserves soon enough.

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Reply #34 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:30pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:09pm:
If you are talking about the occasional nutter then yes, they are causing trouble.

No, I'm talking about the current 10% who make up over 20% of primary school age children in Israel. Whose population is expected to increase to nearly 25% within 20 years

Who :

Demand segregation of men and women in public places (including buses - women must sit at the back... remind you of anything?)

Demand strict dress codes for men and women

Shun learning past primary school age of sciences, maths etc.

Do not have the basic skills to manage a modern nation

Refuse to serve in the military

Demand all of Israel be returned to them, recognising no rights at all to non-Jews anywhere within the ancient borders of Israel

Hold significant political power

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And on it goes...

Remember that picture of the situation room during the assassination of Osama bin Laden... Where Hillary Clinton had been photoshopped out in the Israeli press? Why was that, do you think?

As I said... Read.

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Reply #35 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 5:48pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:29pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:27pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime



Anti-Semitism alive and well.

It is against this prejudice that Israel continues to fight its corner.
Once again if not supporting the slaughter of innocent people by the terrorist state Israel is anti semitic then I am anti semitic

Israel will get what it deserves soon enough.



You are anti-semitic.

Israel is not a terrorist.

Israel is a democracy. In fact Arabs have greater rights in Israel than they do in their own neighbouring countries.
Countries like Jordan, which deliberately keeps over 1m Palestinians in refugee camps for political pressure reasons.
Countries like Syria, which oppresses its own people under dictatorship.

Israel is a stable democracy, which has been attacked UNPROVOKED on many separate occasions by all of its neighbours.

And then, in the classic logic only an Arab could believe, when Israel beats them back behind their borders - they then cry for the return of their borders that existed BEFORE they launched their cowardly assaults.

Israel is a friend of the United States and Australia and long may they receive our support.

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Reply #36 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:01pm
 
Well I am happy to be anti Semitic if that’s what you think it is. For the record I have nothing against Jewish people in general, I just do not support their terrorism and human rights atrocities.

Please check the dictionary, Israel fits the definition of a terrorist exactly.

Israel is a false democracy with an illusion of public influence on government just like in the US or Australia.

It is a nation built on death and destruction; they cry foul when someone defends themselves but reserve the right to kill thousands of innocent people for no reason.

Israel will get what it deserves, and you are a brainwashed psychopath.

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Reply #37 - Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:27pm
 
You call Israel democratic? charter 99 is for democracy
and from section 7, 9, 11 ,12 and 13 quoting from the charter.

Uphold fundamental human rights:
7. Strengthen world citizenship based on compliance with and respect for the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and all international instruments on Human Rights, including the six core treaties on economic, social and cultural rights; civil and political rights; racial discrimination; discrimination against women, children's rights, torture, and the Conventions on genocide, refugees and labor standards.

Promote social progress and better standards of life:
9. Establish a strong UN institution for Economic and Environmental security to promote international prosperity, protect the global commons and secure reasonable development.

10. Establish an International Environmental Court to enforce international treaties on the environment and protect the global commons.

11. Declare climate change to be an essential global security interest and establish a high-level international urgent action team to assist the UN Conference of the Parties on Climate Change to set a scientifically based glob ceiling on greenhouse gas emissions, to allocate national shares of permissible emissions based on convergence to equal per capita rights, and to work with governments, companies, international agencies and NGOs to cut emissions of greenhouse gases to a sustainable level.

12. Make poverty reduction a global priority: secure universal access to safe drinking water, health care, housing, education, family planning, gender equality, sustainable development and economic opportunities, and strengthen the capacity of development agencies to eliminate malnutrition, preventable diseases and absolute poverty through conservation and equitable sharing of global resources. Cancel the unpayable debts of the poorest nations and institute measures to prevent severe debt burdens from ever building up again.

These are just some of the most important issues crying out for urgent action by the world community. To make them happen, we need a determined effort to hold all agencies of global governance to account and democratize international decision-making.

Tell me where is Israel following charter 99?

Have you seen What their children watch on TV?
their children watch educational shows that promote to become a suicide warrior an honorary suicide warrior and actually practice it in this show i stormed into the building as a honorary suicide warrior and killed the heretics.
Young children a thought in the military how to shoot and  kill non followers of the Islam: The Koran inside this book
it actually says to kill the non followers. and they follow this faith.

Woman are inferior beings to men in this country.
they are not a democratic nation.

Have you seen what happened in France with the muslims?
they has isolated them selves in small communities where outsiders are frowned upon when they visit or go through these suburbs of Muslims only.

Did you know that the Muslims are planning to get enough Muslims and, Muslims followers into Australia to change some of our laws to sharia if you come to Australia to attempt to change it to follow the ways of ur faith and the ways in your country go back to your country
for if you try to change our law and our system and you follow a faith which tells you to kill non believers you are my enemy.

I don't blame the world that they hate Muslims for if you looked upon history and the plans that they have had and may still have.

The Muslims wish to rebuild Jerusalem. but no christian will be able to see it for non would be alive or a christian. to destroy Christianity and to overthrow civil government.

They are already trying to implement sharia law into Australian law. there have been secret law decisions within Muslim communities as with assault and etc..they do not use astrlian courts for these matters as you know
in their law man is above woman the judge always is for man the woman needs so much more to win a case let alone get heard the discrimination in their faith is outrageous.

Israel is Not democratic in any way.

They will get what they deserve im with political puppet.
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Reply #38 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 1:28pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:01pm:
Well I am happy to be anti Semitic if that’s what you think it is. For the record I have nothing against Jewish people in general, I just do not support their terrorism and human rights atrocities.

Please check the dictionary, Israel fits the definition of a terrorist exactly.

Israel is a false democracy with an illusion of public influence on government just like in the US or Australia.

It is a nation built on death and destruction;

.....they cry foul when someone defends themselves but reserve the right to kill thousands of innocent people for no reason.


Israel will get what it deserves, and you are a brainwashed psychopath.





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That image, above, represents just more moslem PROJECTION, against Allah's enemies






THE MOTIVE.....

Moslems will wantonly murder non-moslems.  [In the case of Israel, moslems murder Jews].

Because killing non-moslems, is not a crime, per se, within ISLAM.

Because ISLAM's 'holy' texts 'sanctifies', and encourages, moslem aggression against, and the murder of, non-moslems, .......whenever non-moslems resist moslem authority.

AS PER.....

Allah's enemies.....
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


Fight against, Allah's enemies.....
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


Fight against, Allah's enemies.....
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth,..."
Koran 9.29



THE INTENDED CONSEQUENCE....IS THIS MOSLEM DUPLICITY AND HYPOCRISY [it is an evil intent, which moslems 'justify' to themselves].....


And when those non-moslems defend themselves, and whenever they kill their moslem attackers.....
.....then moslems always portray themselves as the victims of aggression, again moslems.

This political propaganda 'device' [use by moslems] is called 'PROJECTION'.


i.e.
'Projecting' blame onto others, for the things, the evil which we ourselves commit.







Every day, 'Palestinians' declare that they want the blood of their own children spilled, murdering the children of Jews.

Quote:

"Our children are our glory and honor,
they were created to be fertilizer for the land of Palestine,
and for our pure land to be saturated with their blood."




"Moderate" Palestinian Authority TV: Palestinian children created to fertilize the land with their blood
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian-...





"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb.



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Moslem hypocrites.



You promote the 'martyrdom', the wanton death, of your own children, as being a high moslem ideal......

And then expect sympathy [when you shed moslem crocodile tears] for the 'martyrdom', THE ORCHESTRATED DEATH OF YOUR OWN CHILDREN???


MOSLEM INTENT, AND ACTIONS = = PURE EVIL.


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Reply #39 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 1:47pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 1:28pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 6:01pm:
Well I am happy to be anti Semitic if that’s what you think it is. For the record I have nothing against Jewish people in general, I just do not support their terrorism and human rights atrocities.

Please check the dictionary, Israel fits the definition of a terrorist exactly.

Israel is a false democracy with an illusion of public influence on government just like in the US or Australia.

It is a nation built on death and destruction;

.....they cry foul when someone defends themselves but reserve the right to kill thousands of innocent people for no reason.


Israel will get what it deserves, and you are a brainwashed psychopath.





http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgo44lBFE71qf0iqpo1_500.gif
That image, above, represents just more moslem PROJECTION, against Allah's enemies






THE MOTIVE.....

Moslems will wantonly murder non-moslems.  [In the case of Israel, moslems murder Jews].

Because killing non-moslems, is not a crime, per se, within ISLAM.

Because ISLAM's 'holy' texts 'sanctifies', and encourages, moslem aggression against, and the murder of, non-moslems, .......whenever non-moslems resist moslem authority.

AS PER.....

Allah's enemies.....
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


Fight against, Allah's enemies.....
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


Fight against, Allah's enemies.....
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth,..."
Koran 9.29



THE INTENDED CONSEQUENCE....IS THIS MOSLEM DUPLICITY AND HYPOCRISY [it is an evil intent, which moslems 'justify' to themselves].....


And when those non-moslems defend themselves, and whenever they kill their moslem attackers.....
.....then moslems always portray themselves as the victims of aggression, again moslems.

This political propaganda 'device' [use by moslems] is called 'PROJECTION'.


i.e.
'Projecting' blame onto others, for the things, the evil which we ourselves commit.







Every day, 'Palestinians' declare that they want the blood of their own children spilled, murdering the children of Jews.

Quote:

"Our children are our glory and honor,
they were created to be fertilizer for the land of Palestine,
and for our pure land to be saturated with their blood."




"Moderate" Palestinian Authority TV: Palestinian children created to fertilize the land with their blood
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian-...





"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb.



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Moslem hypocrites.



You promote the 'martyrdom', the wanton death, of your own children, as being a high moslem ideal......

And then expect sympathy [when you shed moslem crocodile tears] for the 'martyrdom', THE ORCHESTRATED DEATH OF YOUR OWN CHILDREN???


MOSLEM INTENT, AND ACTIONS = = PURE EVIL.




A picture says a thousand words Yadda.
Well done.
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Reply #40 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 2:07pm
 
Exactly.

Palestinians are b*stards.

I know a lot who have served in the IDF and they can tell you some stories about what they have to face.
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Reply #41 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 3:00pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 2:07pm:
Exactly.

Palestinians are b*stards.


I know a lot who have served in the IDF and they can tell you some stories about what they have to face.






All over the world, every day, moslems murder moslems.

And moslems murder non-moslems.


And moslems then justify their ruthless, murderous actions, because moslems in their demented minds, see those murderous acts, as 'good works' for Allah's cause.





Andrei.Hicks,

All of those images of 'Palestinian' children, in my post # 38.


IMO, moslem children, such are those depicted, must be considered to be lawful combatants.



That is what ISLAM [itself] brings to the battlefield, TOTAL WAR.

There are no contemporary 'rules of war', for moslems.

Moslems do not recognise such 'rules'.

ISLAM itself, brings every moslem, every moslem man, woman, and child, as a combatant, to 'the battlefield'.





"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb.






and more moslem justification for the slaughter of children, during "Jihad operations"....

"....if children are killed, the fault lies with the adult occupiers who brought them into a battlefield situation."


.....those are the words of a moslem cleric, explaining that it is the non-moslems who are always to blame, when non-moslem children [i.e. Jewish children in occupied 'Palestinian'] are killed in "Jihad operations" with moslems.

Google;
"There Can Be No End to Jihad"




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Reply #42 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:27pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 2:07pm:
Exactly.

Palestinians are b*stards.

I know a lot who have served in the IDF and they can tell you some stories about what they have to face.
Haha exactly how would you respond if someone stole your country and land from you and killed your family/blew up everything in site?
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Reply #43 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 7:52pm
 
You're ALL pharkin religious nutters with the same superstitious , ridiculous , I'm better -than-you beliefs.


Get over it.

Join the 21st century.


PLEASE!!!!


For ALL our sakes.
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Reply #44 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 8:18pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:27pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 2:07pm:
Exactly.

Palestinians are b*stards.

I know a lot who have served in the IDF and they can tell you some stories about what they have to face.
Haha exactly how would you respond if someone stole your country and land from you and killed your family/blew up everything in site?



If it was the Jews, I'd say 'insh'allah, at last our backwardness and misery under these bugger*ing imams are over! Allah is great!! Everybody ululate!!"



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