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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #90 - Mar 10^th, 2012 at 9:09am Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 8:59am: Soren, Quote: I see wilful blindness here - can anyone else? I just see hypocrisy. Well, you have an undie over your head, Bats, so you are wilfully blind. I am asking the non-Batty demographic.
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Reply #91 - Mar 10^th, 2012 at 9:21am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 8:59am:

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I see wilful blindness here - can anyone else?

I just see hypocrisy.

To some extent you have a point Bobby.
But that's just how it is.

Israel and the United States have made it clear that Iran cannot and will not be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

If they try, then Israel will strike their facilities. It is totally up to Iran, nobody else.

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Reply #92 - Mar 10^th, 2012 at 9:41am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 10:33pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 5:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Chicken - are you an apologist for Jewish nuclear weapons?

I can't think of any other country that is in greater need of a powerful deterrent to defend itself. Israel is like Frodo, surrounded by Ringwraiths.

But on the other hand - why can't the IAEA have a right to
inspect the Jewish nuclear facilities yet
Iran must comply?
I see hypocrisy here - can anyone else?

I see idiocy with this ignorant line of thought.

Israel did not sign the NPT, the jews were smart enough to figure out how to make these weapons without asking the west or the IAEA for help.
There is nothing to prevent a country from producing nuclear weapons if they can figure out how to do it.
Israel are not bound by any treaties so they have not broken any treaties,they did not need any help from the west or the IAEA to complete their nuclear program.

Iran and North Korea both signed the NPT which then enabled them to get help from the west with their nuclear programs.
The NPT forbids you from making nuclear weapons and those who had them prior to the NPT treaty must reduce their stockpiles of nuclear weapons.

North Korea withdrew from the NPT after making a weapon which means they are no longer bound by the NPT hence the term "rogue state".
North Korea used the west and the IAEA for nuclear technology,made something that was forbidden by the NPT and instead of dismantling and compliance they chose to withdraw from the NPT and go rogue.

Iran signed the NPT.
Iran has produced plutonium which the IAEA can confirm in reports,there is a long list of violations of the NPT treaty from Iran.
Iran has the choice of dismantling its nuclear program or withdrawing from the NPT like North Korea did to become a rogue nuclear state.

If you sign the NPT then inspections by the IAEA will be a part of the deal.

Iran and North Korea violated the NPT treaty by producing weapons after being helped by the west and the IAEA with nuclear technology.

Iran has to dismantle its nuclear weapons program or withdraw from the NPT like North Korea did.

I see a lot of ignorant idiots when it comes to this topic.

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Reply #93 - Mar 10^th, 2012 at 12:07pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 9:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 10:33pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 5:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Chicken - are you an apologist for Jewish nuclear weapons?

I can't think of any other country that is in greater need of a powerful deterrent to defend itself. Israel is like Frodo, surrounded by Ringwraiths.

But on the other hand - why can't the IAEA have a right to
inspect the Jewish nuclear facilities yet
Iran must comply?
I see hypocrisy here - can anyone else?

I see idiocy with this ignorant line of thought.

Israel did not sign the NPT, the jews were smart enough to figure out how to make these weapons without asking the west or the IAEA for help.
There is nothing to prevent a country from producing nuclear weapons if they can figure out how to do it.
Israel are not bound by any treaties so they have not broken any treaties,they did not need any help from the west or the IAEA to complete their nuclear program.

Iran and North Korea both signed the NPT which then enabled them to get help from the west with their nuclear programs.
The NPT forbids you from making nuclear weapons and those who had them prior to the NPT treaty must reduce their stockpiles of nuclear weapons.

North Korea withdrew from the NPT after making a weapon which means they are no longer bound by the NPT hence the term "rogue state".
North Korea used the west and the IAEA for nuclear technology,made something that was forbidden by the NPT and instead of dismantling and compliance they chose to withdraw from the NPT and go rogue.

Iran signed the NPT.
Iran has produced plutonium which the IAEA can confirm in reports,there is a long list of violations of the NPT treaty from Iran.
Iran has the choice of dismantling its nuclear program or withdrawing from the NPT like North Korea did to become a rogue nuclear state.

If you sign the NPT then inspections by the IAEA will be a part of the deal.

Iran and North Korea violated the NPT treaty by producing weapons after being helped by the west and the IAEA with nuclear technology.

Iran has to dismantle its nuclear weapons program or withdraw from the NPT like North Korea did.

I see a lot of ignorant idiots when it comes to this topic.

Israel has nuclear weapons. Iran has not. The danger to world peace is obvious.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105384 Melbourne Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #94 - Mar 10^th, 2012 at 12:45pm Baron, Quote: I see a lot of ignorant idiots when it comes to this topic Well - I think you're an idiot. Jews made nuclear weapons & now they want to start WW3 because they think another country might get one too. Grow a brain because that threatens you & me & it reeks of stinking hypocrisy.
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Reply #95 - Mar 10^th, 2012 at 12:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

Baron,
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I see a lot of ignorant idiots when it comes to this topic

Well - I think you're an idiot.
Jews made nuclear weapons & now they want to start WW3
because they think another country might get one too.
Grow a brain because that threatens you & me
& it reeks of stinking hypocrisy.

Who said this:

"the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"?

What did he mean?
He meat Israel must be wiped off the map.

I don't remember any Jew calling for Iran - or any othr country for that matter - to disappear from the pages of history/map. Do you?

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #96 - Mar 10^th, 2012 at 1:29pm Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 9:41am: Iran and North Korea violated the NPT treaty by producing weapons after being helped by the west and the IAEA with nuclear technology. I see a lot of ignorant idiots when it comes to this topic. Are you saying Iran already has nuclear weapons?
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Reply #97 - Mar 10^th, 2012 at 2:08pm

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

Baron,
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I see a lot of ignorant idiots when it comes to this topic

Well - I think you're an idiot.
Jews made nuclear weapons & now they want to start WW3
because they think another country might get one too.
Grow a brain because that threatens you & me
& it reeks of stinking hypocrisy.

Who said this:

"the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"?

What did he mean?
He meat Israel must be wiped off the map.

I don't remember any Jew calling for Iran - or any othr country for that matter - to disappear from the pages of history/map. Do you?

Evil governments should be removed. Regime change is what is needed. Netanyahu should be tried for his war crimes.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #98 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 12:02pm You know you can not say of Israel has nuclear weapon programme. Is all guess from you in australia?
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Reply #99 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 12:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

Baron,
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I see a lot of ignorant idiots when it comes to this topic

Well - I think you're an idiot.
Jews made nuclear weapons & now they want to start WW3
because they think another country might get one too.
Grow a brain because that threatens you & me
& it reeks of stinking hypocrisy.

You are the idiot who raised the issue of why the IAEA does not get involved with Israel.

Israel did not need the help of the west or the IAEA with their nuclear program,they were smart enough to do it without any outside help.

Iran used the IAEA for nuclear technology then failed to comply with numerous compliance issues with the IAEA on what they are allowed to produce.

So when Israel bombed the Syrian and Iraqi reactors did that start any wars?

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Reply #100 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 12:53pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 1:29pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 9:41am:

Iran and North Korea violated the NPT treaty by producing weapons after being helped by the west and the IAEA with nuclear technology.

I see a lot of ignorant idiots when it comes to this topic.

Are you saying Iran already has nuclear weapons?

It is rumoured they have one of the missing Russian nukes.
Russia has lost 2 ,the USA has 9 sitting on the ocean floor.

They have been noncompliant with the IAEA for many years,it is even a documented where Iran understated their plutonium production by a significant factor.
Does anyone believe they "accidently" produced plutonium?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105384 Melbourne Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #101 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 12:59pm Baron, Quote: Israel did not need the help of the west or the IAEA with their nuclear program,they were smart enough to do it without any outside help. Baron, So what are you saying? It's alright for Israel to have 300 nuclear weapons but Iran can't have civilian nuclear power?
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Reply #102 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 11^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

Baron,
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Israel did not need the help of the west or the IAEA with their nuclear
program,they were smart enough to do it without any outside help.

Baron,
So what are you saying?
It's alright for Israel to have 300 nuclear weapons
but Iran can't have civilian nuclear power?

You cannot say this 300 weapons. You do not know this.

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #103 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 1:57pm Since the Arab Nations have been warring between themselves for century upon century I think think it matters a tinker's cuss what Israel does or does not do as far as Arab Nations fighting is concerned.
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Reply #104 - Mar 11^th, 2012 at 2:25pm

falah wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 10^th, 2012 at 12:45pm:

Baron,
Quote:

I see a lot of ignorant idiots when it comes to this topic

Well - I think you're an idiot.
Jews made nuclear weapons & now they want to start WW3
because they think another country might get one too.
Grow a brain because that threatens you & me
& it reeks of stinking hypocrisy.

Who said this:

"the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"?

What did he mean?
He meat Israel must be wiped off the map.

I don't remember any Jew calling for Iran - or any othr country for that matter - to disappear from the pages of history/map. Do you?

Evil governments should be removed. Regime change is what is needed. Netanyahu should be tried for his war crimes.

SO you guys will be cool with Israel as long as it has a Labour government????

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Question: Does Israel have nuclear weapons?
Yes 20 (83.3%) No 1 (4.2%) unsure 3 (12.5%) Total votes: 24 « Created by: Bobby. on: Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:38am »