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Reply #150 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:25am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:14am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:05am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 9:48am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 10:35pm:

I serve nearly 2 years in the army in this area which you speak here -- Judea and the settlements.

I live in Israel all my life to now too. I can see these things with my own eyes,,

So basically a scum bag who needs to have the crap beaten out of him

What a disgrace.
And we wonder why people who come to Australia think the residents can be a bunch of ill-informed thugs??

Avram, this guy is hopefully in the minority.
He has come out with obscene comments before, best just to ignore him.

Sorry Andrei but Israel are a terrorist state and I have no time for people who support and partake their slaughter of innocent people.
Even tho I am fairly sure this guy is actually you or someone else already on the forum

I have no need to be anyone else on a forum other than myself, thank you. I stand by my own comments and people can take or leave them.
That's how its always going to be.

I take people at face value and your comments to someone who may/may not have served in his own country's conscription based army are quite frankly as appalling as your comments about their holocaust.

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Reply #151 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:27am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:02am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 9:48am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 10:35pm:

I serve nearly 2 years in the army in this area which you speak here -- Judea and the settlements.

I live in Israel all my life to now too. I can see these things with my own eyes,,

So basically a scum bag who needs to have the crap beaten out of him

Now, there's an intellegent reply. Embarrassed

We are talking about a guy who served for 2 years in a terrorist army, I dont have much respect for people like that who kill innocent people

The Israeli Army is no more a Terrorist army than the ANZACs, the French army, the Swiss Army, the Swedish army etc etc etc etc

Terrorist armies would be Al Q'uada, Somali warlords, the Rwandan Tutsis and Hutus etc.

Israel is a nation state and have every right to have an army which protects their citizens.

Calling them terrorists is both ignorant and offensive.

PS - You do know that as an Israeli, he has no choice about whether he serves or not??

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #152 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:34am Keep defending it Andrei it doesnt change a thing. You can call a duck a chicken but it is still a duck
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Reply #154 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:37am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:02am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 9:48am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 13^th, 2012 at 10:35pm:

I serve nearly 2 years in the army in this area which you speak here -- Judea and the settlements.

I live in Israel all my life to now too. I can see these things with my own eyes,,

So basically a scum bag who needs to have the crap beaten out of him

Now, there's an intellegent reply. Embarrassed

We are talking about a guy who served for 2 years in a terrorist army, I dont have much respect for people like that who kill innocent people

Who defines Israel as a terrorist state ?

A.
Moslems.

Why so ???

Who defines any non-moslem who resists their [moslem] will and their [political] designs, as a terrorist ?

A.
Moslems.

Who defines 'peace' as submission to Allah's will ?

A.
Moslems.

Who defines anyone who resists Allah's will, as a terrorist ?

A.
Moslems.

Who chooses to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM], which teaches them that it is 'lawful' for them, to murder those who do not believe, as they believe ???

A.
A moslem.

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A moslem, is a person who chooses to embrace a philosophy, ISLAM, which teaches moslems that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to kill those who do not believe, as they believe.

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Reply #155 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:37am

... wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

So much unfocused anger....

My anger is focused, although it more sadness and desperation.
I have watched these human rights atrocities go on my whole life and yet people still defend them.
Its hard when you want to help someone and people are too ignorant to even open their eyes.

Israel makes me sick to my stomach, makes me contemplate my life on this planet when I know my fellow countrymen support their butchery.
But alas, patriotism is blind and ignorance is bliss.

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Reply #156 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:41am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

Keep defending it Andrei it doesnt change a thing.
You can call a duck a chicken but it is still a duck

Calling people who serve in a conscription based army on national service a terrorist makes them no more a terrorist just because you say they are.

Call them a terrorist if you like, doesn't change the fact they aren't and they are just regular army.

Seen the news lately?
That'll be the Arabs firing several hundred rockets into southern Israel.

You know those Arabs who then blame Israel for being a terrorist.....

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Reply #157 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:53am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:37am:

... wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

So much unfocused anger....

My anger is focused, although it more sadness and desperation.
I have watched these human rights atrocities go on my whole life and yet people still defend them.

Its hard when you want to help someone and people are too ignorant to even open their eyes.

Israel makes me sick to my stomach, makes me contemplate my life on this planet when I know my fellow countrymen support their butchery.
But alas, patriotism is blind and ignorance is bliss.

Wow!!!

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bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:15am:

......I dont have much respect for people....who kill innocent people

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

And ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'] are 'guilty' people, and may be killed by moslems....

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...

N.B.
"...the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

'Unbelievers' = = don't even 'rate' as human beings.

To ISLAM, only moslems are human beings.

Google;

unbelievers, are sons of apes and pigs

Google;

Non-Muslims, Worse than Animals

"...A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbi

Who, or what, is a harbi ???

Harbi is an Arabic/ISLAMIC word, it means "one under a declaration of war".

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PoliticalPuppet = = a spouter, of moslem lies and mis-information.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106078 Melbourne Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #158 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:57am I would actually like to go to Israel for a holiday. I'm just worried that I could find myself in the middle of a war.
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Reply #159 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:57am

It is easy to see the peoples who do not know situations that occurs in Israel and territories.

Me--before come to Australia I see only kangaroo and also from what is say by young aussie peoples who visit Tel Aviv,,

So sure is many peoples in australia who has not understand Israel situation and is from news only.

But please listen to me when I tell you of experiences I see from my eyes and live it.
You can not know from here as too far distance from Israel.

We are not terrorist,, is total wrong to say. We are peace peoples but you know if Palestinians want fire yes we can bring to them,, we can bring fire so hard on them they run for long distance from us,,

But no is not my hope,,

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21843 A cat with a view	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #160 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:08pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 11:57am: I would actually like to go to Israel for a holiday. I'm just worried that I could find myself in the middle of a war. Why would you like to visit Israel bobby ? What is the interest for you ?
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #161 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:12pm So just to clarify, all of us here would be terrorists if we defended our nation against a invading army of a democratic nation?
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #162 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:17pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:12pm: So just to clarify, all of us here would be terrorists if we defended our nation against a invading army of a democratic nation? Where is the invasion? Please tell me this. We has given Gaza and Judea land to the Palestinians for control.
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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #163 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:21pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:12pm: So just to clarify, all of us here would be terrorists if we defended our nation against a invading army of a democratic nation? You clarify nothing. A democratic nation does not invade another democratic nation. Your statement is meaningless.
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Reply #164 - Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:23pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

So just to clarify, all of us here would be terrorists if we defended our nation against a invading army of a democratic nation?

You clarify nothing.
A democratic nation does not invade another democratic nation.
Your statement is meaningless.

Ahh ok then, history would say otherwise

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