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Reply #165 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm
 
In 20 century Israel is attacked from Syria-Jordan-Egypt,,

None has democratic system,, only Israel is democracy this time.

Yes and we has succeed to fight them back. Oh little Israel fight back the Arabs who attack- my father + uncles is then in brave Israeli Army this time.

Democracy + Arabs,, I laugh about this thought,,
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Reply #166 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:45pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
In 20 century Israel is attacked from Syria-Jordan-Egypt,,

None has democratic system,, only Israel is democracy this time.

Yes and we has succeed to fight them back. Oh little Israel fight back the Arabs who attack- my father + uncles is then in brave Israeli Army this time.

Democracy + Arabs,, I laugh about this thought,,




Exactly so.





ISLAM does not allow any form of freedom of expression which questions ISLAM's virtue, or points to the injustice of ISLAMIC law.

ISLAM and democracy are incompatible.

ISLAM and equal justice [for every man], are incompatible.

ISLAM and the free expression of truth, are incompatible.

ISLAM and liberty [and personal responsibility], are incompatible.

ISLAM and truth, are incompatible.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #167 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:49pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
In 20 century Israel is attacked from Syria-Jordan-Egypt,,

None has democratic system,,


Oh really? You are an avid reader of the news I take it?



Egypt Elections 2012: Islamists Secure 75 Percent Of Parliament


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/21/egypt-elections-2012-islamists_n_122080...


Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
only Israel is democracy this time.


Do you mean the racist apartheid Zionist state that does not allow Arabs in the Westbank to vote, while allowing Jews in the same area to vote?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
Yes and we has succeed to fight them back. Oh little Israel fight back the Arabs who attack- my father + uncles is then in brave Israeli Army this time.


Without US backing there would be no Israel now.

During the war in 1973, the U.S. mounted a major airlift codenamed Operation Nickel Grass to deliver weapons and supplies to Israel. Over 22,000 tons of tanks, artillery, ammunition, and other materiel were delivered to aid the Israeli military. The operation was paralleled by a large-scale sealift of some 33,000 tons of materiel and the transfer of 40 F-4 Phantoms, 36 A-4 Skyhawks and twelve C-130 Hercules transport aircraft to replace Israeli war losses

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
Democracy + Arabs,, I laugh about this thought,,



Really? Maybe we should be laughing at your ill-informed opinions.


Islamist-led opposition wins Kuwaiti elections


http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15716589,00.html

Islamist PJD party wins Morocco poll


...Morocco's current Prime Minister, Abbas Al Fassi, said on Saturday his Istiqlal party was ready to enter into a coalition with the PJD.

"The PJD's victory is a victory for democracy," he told Reuters.

It comes a month after the moderate Islamist Ennahda party won elections in nearby Tunisia...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15902703



Lebanon confirms Hariri election win

...US President Barack Obama praised the election and welcomed the result...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8089285.stm

Egypt Elections 2012: Islamists Secure 75 Percent Of Parliament


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/21/egypt-elections-2012-islamists_n_122080...



Tunisia's Islamist Ennahda party wins historic poll


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15487647


Iraq elections hailed a success


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-03-08/iraq-elections-hailed-a-success/355600

Algerian Islamist parties unite for election


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/03/201238195149356757.html

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Reply #168 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 1:14pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:08pm:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 11:57am:
I would actually like to go to Israel for a holiday.
I'm just worried that I could find myself in the middle of a war.




Why would you like to visit Israel bobby ?

What is the interest for you ?




Meeting all the interesting people.
Walking in the holy lands.
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Reply #169 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 1:29pm
 
falah wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:49pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
In 20 century Israel is attacked from Syria-Jordan-Egypt,,

None has democratic system,,


Oh really? You are an avid reader of the news I take it?


Lebanon confirms Hariri election win

...US President Barack Obama praised the election and welcomed the result...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8089285.stm

Egypt Elections 2012: Islamists Secure 75 Percent Of Parliament


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/21/egypt-elections-2012-islamists_n_122080...



Tunisia's Islamist Ennahda party wins historic poll


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15487647


Iraq elections hailed a success


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-03-08/iraq-elections-hailed-a-success/355600




falah,

That ISLAMISTS win a democratic election [once!], IS NOT A PROOF THAT ISLAM/MOSLEMS SUPPORT AND EMBRACE DEMOCRACY.

Real proof that ISLAM and moslems support and embrace democracy, would be if an ISLAMIST government were defeated at an election, by a secularist majority, and that determination [i.e. that choice] by the majority of the people was allowed to stand by the former [ISLAMIC] government.

falah,

Has an ISLAMIST regime ever been defeated by secularists, in a democratic poll ?

Answer; No.

Why not.

Because no regime that was guided by ISLAMIC principles would ever allow secularists to hold political power or political influence.





Further;
In all of the nations which you cited, and since the occasion of  'Arab spring' [in those nations to which that term applies, Tunisia, Egypt, Iraq], secularists and minorities have been the subject of persecution and violence, from ISLAMISTS, for political motives [i.e. to bolster the political power of the ISLAMISTS].




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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: "Israel & US are one!"
Reply #170 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 1:58pm
 
falah wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:49pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
In 20 century Israel is attacked from Syria-Jordan-Egypt,,

None has democratic system,,


Oh really? You are an avid reader of the news I take it?



Egypt Elections 2012: Islamists Secure 75 Percent Of Parliament


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/21/egypt-elections-2012-islamists_n_122080...


Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
only Israel is democracy this time.


Do you mean the racist apartheid Zionist state that does not allow Arabs in the Westbank to vote, while allowing Jews in the same area to vote?

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
Yes and we has succeed to fight them back. Oh little Israel fight back the Arabs who attack- my father + uncles is then in brave Israeli Army this time.


Without US backing there would be no Israel now.

During the war in 1973, the U.S. mounted a major airlift codenamed Operation Nickel Grass to deliver weapons and supplies to Israel. Over 22,000 tons of tanks, artillery, ammunition, and other materiel were delivered to aid the Israeli military. The operation was paralleled by a large-scale sealift of some 33,000 tons of materiel and the transfer of 40 F-4 Phantoms, 36 A-4 Skyhawks and twelve C-130 Hercules transport aircraft to replace Israeli war losses

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 12:26pm:
Democracy + Arabs,, I laugh about this thought,,



Really? Maybe we should be laughing at your ill-informed opinions.


Islamist-led opposition wins Kuwaiti elections


http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15716589,00.html

Islamist PJD party wins Morocco poll


...Morocco's current Prime Minister, Abbas Al Fassi, said on Saturday his Istiqlal party was ready to enter into a coalition with the PJD.

"The PJD's victory is a victory for democracy," he told Reuters.

It comes a month after the moderate Islamist Ennahda party won elections in nearby Tunisia...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15902703



Lebanon confirms Hariri election win

...US President Barack Obama praised the election and welcomed the result...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8089285.stm

Egypt Elections 2012: Islamists Secure 75 Percent Of Parliament


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/21/egypt-elections-2012-islamists_n_122080...



Tunisia's Islamist Ennahda party wins historic poll


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15487647


Iraq elections hailed a success


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-03-08/iraq-elections-hailed-a-success/355600

Algerian Islamist parties unite for election


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2012/03/201238195149356757.html



One election now makes them 'democratic'?
What low standards you have falah.
Will they make it to two elections do you think, or will this be it for twenty years.
Will they let political prisoners out of gaol, or will they just stop torturing them?
Do they kneecap opposition party supporters like democratic Hamas does to Fatah, or do they just chuck them off a third storey roof instead and watch them bounce on the road?
Were the ballot boxes stuffed with donkey votes?
Did the UN have observers there?
How democratic is an Islamist party going to be?
Honestly.
Really?
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Reply #171 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:08pm
 
So the USA will either jettison its Military to Israel
or Israel will fold and make the USA the NEW JERULSALEM ???
...which means AUSTRALIA is the promised land for MOSLEMS then Huh

No.

Israel is really a former Religion, now embracing MILITARISATION in the Middle-East.
Israel is the Cavalry (Individuality) beyond the walls of the Base (Mass) which is really SOUTH AMERICA ...hence the gist about the 'Conquistadors'.

Any Association between the USA and Israel is purely because the USA is militarily just as powerful as Israel, although POLITICS is the USA priority.

One day, Israel will be the most powerful Military in the world ...but its a Military in 'exile' from South America - the true Military soul.
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Reply #172 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:02pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:08pm:
So the USA will either jettison its Military to Israel
or Israel will fold and make the USA the NEW JERULSALEM ???
...which means AUSTRALIA is the promised land for MOSLEMS then Huh

No.

Israel is really a former Religion, now embracing MILITARISATION in the Middle-East.
Israel is the Cavalry (Individuality) beyond the walls of the Base (Mass) which is really SOUTH AMERICA ...hence the gist about the 'Conquistadors'.

Any Association between the USA and Israel is purely because the USA is militarily just as powerful as Israel, although POLITICS is the USA priority.

One day, Israel will be the most powerful Military in the world ...but its a Military in 'exile' from South America - the true Military soul.



Powerful enough to destroy the whole world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Quote:
In 2003, Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at Israel’s Hebrew University, thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[19] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:


"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third.
We have the capability to take the world down with us.
And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.
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Reply #173 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:09pm
 
I doubt it.  The jews have never been a particularly warlike people.  They prefer to take down their enemies by subterfuge rather than outright force.
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Reply #174 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:10pm
 
Bobbythebat1 we is a very powerful military and country,, no country is can tell Israel what to behave,, when we protect our peoples.

We want the peace but we can bring war if the Arabs choose this and we has all the power to can do so.
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Reply #175 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:12pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:10pm:
Bobbythebat1 we is a very powerful military and country,, no country is can tell Israel what to behave,, when we protect our peoples.

We want the peace but we can bring war if the Arabs choose this and we has all the power to can do so.

Hey jew boy,
get buggered
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Reply #176 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:13pm
 
... wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:09pm:
I doubt it.  The jews have never been a particularly warlike people.  They prefer to take down their enemies by subterfuge rather than outright force.



There is many way to remove terror peoples and can be peaceful ways.

See in Gaza we strike to the terror chief with the attack planes but also we has in history attack terror chiefs from quiet MOSSAD strike.

Is more preferred for me as is more peaceful to do this and not so the casaulties with innocents.
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Reply #177 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:20pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:12pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:10pm:
Bobbythebat1 we is a very powerful military and country,, no country is can tell Israel what to behave,, when we protect our peoples.

We want the peace but we can bring war if the Arabs choose this and we has all the power to can do so.

Hey jew boy,
get buggered



The insults is not good behavior my friend,,
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Reply #178 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:45pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:12pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:10pm:
Bobbythebat1 we is a very powerful military and country,, no country is can tell Israel what to behave,, when we protect our peoples.

We want the peace but we can bring war if the Arabs choose this and we has all the power to can do so.

Hey jew boy,
get buggered

The sort of comment that reinforces Jewish conviction that anti-Semitism is an innate and tenacious Western pathology.
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Reply #179 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:50pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:20pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:12pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 6:10pm:
Bobbythebat1 we is a very powerful military and country,, no country is can tell Israel what to behave,, when we protect our peoples.

We want the peace but we can bring war if the Arabs choose this and we has all the power to can do so.

Hey jew boy,
get buggered



The insults is not good behavior my friend,,


Dear Avram,
I apologise on behalf of all Australians for the insults you have received.
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