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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #285 - Mar 18^th, 2012 at 7:13am Jan<<Anyone against Israel and the US (our worst enemies) are my friends.>> ............................................................ I am your best friend. I hate them and their evil actions with a passion. They are terrorists and should be treated as such.
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Reply #286 - Mar 18^th, 2012 at 9:02am

Yadda wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 4:13am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 3:27am:

Yadda,
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Your suggestion, is naive, and totally irrational, imo.

Disarming those who are peaceful and law abiding is foolish, and unnecessary.

Disarming those who are peaceful and law abiding, will only expose them to being the victims, of those who remain armed, and who wish to prey upon, and murder them.

You disarm in small steps building trust along the way
until no side has the capacity to destroy the other.

bobby,

What you are suggesting is, that impotence, brings peace.

You are mistaken..

Truth brings peace, through justice, and the judgement, of wicked people.

When wicked people [criminals] are judged and removed from a society, that society, will enjoy peace.

REAL peace.

bobby,

What many socialists, social engineers, and criminals, like yourself, are promoting, will simply result in making victims of peaceable people, by their dis-empowerment.

Impotence [powerlessness] does not produce [or guarantee] peace.

Impotence [powerlessness] is the cause of the enslavement, of the powerless [enslavement, by those with an ability to wield power].

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IMO, everybody in Australia who is;
1/ over 25 years of age,
2/ has not had a criminal conviction in the last 20 years,
3/ and has never been convicted of illicit drug abuse, AND, has never been convicted of drink driving,

.....should be allowed to own a firearm [if they want to own one] to defend their home and family.

If we want a peaceful society, we need to make the criminals frightened, ......of the peaceable and law abiding citizens.

AND, remove criminals from society, permanently.

What a load of rubbish.
You'd want us to be like the USA where 30,000 people
die every year from firearms!

Arming every country to the teeth in the Middle East
will backfire in everyone's face one day -
it's just a question of when.
It means that when war does break out it will kill
millions of people instead of a few thousand.

Hitler built up a huge army & war economy before WW2
& look where that led us.

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Reply #287 - Mar 18^th, 2012 at 10:12am

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Arming every country to the teeth in the Middle East
will backfire in everyone's face one day -

Leaving yourself armless is a lot more dangerous when the army, police and private mercenary armies have guns. We have all seen the destruction of our freedoms, eventually we will want to stop it and this will be impossible without guns.
Think about it you wouldn’t let your slave have a gun would you.
Also, Australia is surrounded by some of the strongest and largest military nations in the world.. Our only line of defence would be the public if they were to invade because our army wouldn’t last and allies probably wouldn’t help us if there was a world war going on.

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Reply #288 - Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:13pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 10:12am:

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Arming every country to the teeth in the Middle East
will backfire in everyone's face one day -

Leaving yourself armless is a lot more dangerous when the army, police and private mercenary armies have guns. We have all seen the destruction of our freedoms, eventually we will want to stop it and this will be impossible without guns.
Think about it you wouldn’t let your slave have a gun would you.
Also, Australia is surrounded by some of the strongest and largest military nations in the world.. Our only line of defence would be the public if they were to invade because our army wouldn’t last and allies probably wouldn’t help us if there was a world war going on.

Puppet,
You're not planning an armed revolution are you?

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Reply #289 - Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:13pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 10:12am:

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Arming every country to the teeth in the Middle East
will backfire in everyone's face one day -

Leaving yourself armless is a lot more dangerous when the army, police and private mercenary armies have guns. We have all seen the destruction of our freedoms, eventually we will want to stop it and this will be impossible without guns.
Think about it you wouldn’t let your slave have a gun would you.
Also, Australia is surrounded by some of the strongest and largest military nations in the world.. Our only line of defence would be the public if they were to invade because our army wouldn’t last and allies probably wouldn’t help us if there was a world war going on.

Puppet,
You're not planning an armed revolution are you?

No but we should never exclude the possibility that one day we may need too.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103102 Melbourne Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #290 - Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:54pm You'd want us to be like the USA where 30,000 people die every year from firearms!
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #291 - Mar 18^th, 2012 at 3:42pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:54pm: You'd want us to be like the USA where 30,000 people die every year from firearms! Yes I believe we should not have our freedoms infringed upon for the crimes of another person who has nothing to do with us.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18303 Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #292 - Mar 19^th, 2012 at 2:43pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:54pm: You'd want us to be like the USA where 30,000 people die every year from firearms! Got a cite for this figure or did you pluck it from your ass?i
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Reply #293 - Mar 19^th, 2012 at 6:49pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 7:13am:

Jan<<Anyone against Israel and the US (our worst enemies) are my friends.>>
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I am your best friend. I hate them and their evil actions with a passion. They are terrorists and should be treated as such.

Nice to know I have at least one friend here.

The US and Israel are the only real terrorists, they are self created for greed and power and called those who tried to protect their own countries and assets against them terrorists.

To go to war you have to have an enemy. The US and Israel create them in the most despicable way, through violent and greater war machinary that they would deny anyone else ... that's true cowardice and we Aussies are supporting it.

Hate is a four letter word that carries consequences, use truth and logic to negate it.

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #294 - Mar 19^th, 2012 at 6:58pm Michael Jackson's Rabbi is Running for Congress http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/03/17/michael-jackson-s-rabbi-is-runn...
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Reply #295 - Mar 19^th, 2012 at 9:45pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 19^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

You'd want us to be like the USA where 30,000 people
die every year from firearms!

Got a cite for this figure or did you pluck it from your ass?

Don't call me an ass.

http://bradycampaign.org/facts/gunviolence
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DID YOU KNOW? In one year on average, almost 100,000 people in America are shot or killed with a gun.

•In one year, 31,593 people died from gun violence and 66,769 people survived gun injuries (National Center for Injury Prevention and Control (NCIPC)). That includes:

◦12,179 people murdered and 44,466 people shot in an attack (NCIPC).

◦18,223 people who killed themselves and 3,031 people who survived a suicide attempt with a gun (NCIPC).

◦592 people who were killed unintentionally and 18,610 who were shot unintentionally but survived (NCIPC).

•Over a million people have been killed with guns in the United States since 1968, when Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy were assassinated (Childrens’ Defense Fund, p. 20).

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080725002418AAEB87X

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After some searching, these are the most recent statistics I've found:

Number of people killed by guns in the United States in 2004: 29,569

Percentage breakdown by US gun deaths in 2004, by type:

* 16,750 suicides (56% of all U.S. gun deaths)
* 11,624 homicides (40%)
* 649 unintentional shootings, 311 from legal intervention and 235 from undetermined intent (4%).

That averages out to 81 people dying everyday from guns. And also some gun ownership stats:

More than 100 million handguns are owned in the United
States primarily for self‐defense, and 3.5 million people have permits to carry concealed handguns for protection. Currently, the population of the U.S. is around 300 million people.

I expect a long apology.

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Reply #296 - Mar 19^th, 2012 at 10:00pm

Jan wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 5:17am:

Soren wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 10:13pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

Anyone against Israel and the US (our worst enemies) are my friends.

Study BOTH sides of war and economy to get a balanced view of political Allies and foes.

A balanced view like yours???

My views are better than your views.

Yours are stacked so high on the side of zionism they block out the light.

You talk of Zionism as if it was a bad thing!
The Jews have a lot more to be proud of than most other countries that are a lot louder about their national pride. I think jews are A GOOD THING and Zionism is also a GOOD THING.

Zionism sure beats Gay Pride (just as a random 'for example'...)

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Reply #297 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 12:32am

Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 5:17am:

Soren wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 10:13pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

Anyone against Israel and the US (our worst enemies) are my friends.

Study BOTH sides of war and economy to get a balanced view of political Allies and foes.

A balanced view like yours???

My views are better than your views.

Yours are stacked so high on the side of zionism they block out the light.

You talk of Zionism as if it was a bad thing!
The Jews have a lot more to be proud of than most other countries that are a lot louder about their national pride. I think jews are A GOOD THING and Zionism is also a GOOD THING.

Zionism sure beats Gay Pride (just as a random 'for example'...)

OK I get it! So your a zionist Jew ... Let's see if your so proud when the rest of the world wakes up to your evil.

Gay pride is better than paedophile pride IMO. The zionist judiciary even protects the blood suckers.

Let us know when you come up with what is good about zionism ... and don't go jumping on the Jews bandwagon because that's not what zionists are.

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Reply #298 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 12:35am

Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 18^th, 2012 at 5:17am:

Soren wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 10:13pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 17^th, 2012 at 3:46pm:

Anyone against Israel and the US (our worst enemies) are my friends.

Study BOTH sides of war and economy to get a balanced view of political Allies and foes.

A balanced view like yours???

My views are better than your views.

Yours are stacked so high on the side of zionism they block out the light.

You talk of Zionism as if it was a bad thing!
The Jews have a lot more to be proud of than most other countries that are a lot louder about their national pride. I think jews are A GOOD THING and Zionism is also a GOOD THING.

Zionism sure beats Gay Pride (just as a random 'for example'...)

I have a lot of pride in Israel and in Jewish home land state,

We own the country, it is ours, is given by GOD to Jewish people.

Now i am ok to have Palestinians as neighbors when they behaves well but now they do not -- so again it may be possible Israel again need to conduct operations into Gaza to create safe security again,, we will see this.

I hope for the peace but I know that Israel stay strong, and defend our country.

We has some supporters, USA, UK, Australia etc but many peoples also who do not like Israel. This is ok, we are fine,, we don't listen to these peoples..

We are very proud people in Israel,,

PS, i like Australia and Sydney too, i am here now for 2 months and everyone is ok to me.

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Reply #299 - Mar 20^th, 2012 at 12:40am

"See, I have given you this land. Go in and take possession of the land the LORD swore he would give to your fathers—to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob—and to their descendants after them."

Deuteronomy 1:8

"When the sun had set and darkness had fallen, a smoking firepot with a blazing torch appeared and passed between the pieces. On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abraham and said, “To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi to the great river, the Euphrates"

Genesis 15:13

It is GOD given land to descendants of Abraham and Isaac.
Peoples like me, descendants of Jewish peoples.

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