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Question: Does Israel have nuclear weapons?

Yes    
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No    
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unsure    
  3 (12.5%)




Total votes: 24
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Reply #45 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:38am
 
I started a poll:

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Reply #46 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:39am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:37am:
Hi Nail,
Andrei is the only person on Ozpolitcs who believes Israel has no nuclear weapons.


Andrei also believes that oil and petroleum corporations only exist to do us all a favour Cheesy LOL
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Reply #47 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:39am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:38am:
I started a poll:

Does Israel have nuclear weapons?



Nobody knows for sure.
What a bunch of clowns the other side of the world think is irrelevant.

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Reply #48 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:39am
 
Israel maintains a policy of what it calls "nuclear ambiguity". It argues that neither confirming nor denying it has such weapons helps deter its enemies. The US Central Intelligence Agency estimates that Israel has between 200 and 400 nuclear warheads, making it the world's fifth largest nuclear power.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jul/06/israelandthepalestinians.unitednatio...


Vanunu gave detailed descriptions of lithium-6 separation required for the production of tritium, an essential ingredient of fusion-boosted fission bombs. While both experts concluded that Israel might be making such single-stage boosted bombs, Vanunu, whose work experience was limited to material (not component) production, gave no specific evidence that Israel was making two-stage thermonuclear bombs, such as neutron bombs. Vanunu described the plutonium processing used, giving a production rate of about 30 kg per year, and stated that Israel used about 4 kg per weapon.[21][22] From this information it was possible to estimate that Israel had sufficient plutonium for about 150 nuclear weapons

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Reply #49 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:40am
 
where did i say Israel has no nuclear weapons bobby?

Show me my post.
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Reply #50 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:40am
 
... wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:39am:
Israel maintains a policy of what it calls "nuclear ambiguity". It argues that neither confirming nor denying it has such weapons helps deter its enemies. The US Central Intelligence Agency estimates that Israel has between 200 and 400 nuclear warheads, making it the world's fifth largest nuclear power.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jul/06/israelandthepalestinians.unitednatio...


Vanunu gave detailed descriptions of lithium-6 separation required for the production of tritium, an essential ingredient of fusion-boosted fission bombs. While both experts concluded that Israel might be making such single-stage boosted bombs, Vanunu, whose work experience was limited to material (not component) production, gave no specific evidence that Israel was making two-stage thermonuclear bombs, such as neutron bombs. Vanunu described the plutonium processing used, giving a production rate of about 30 kg per year, and stated that Israel used about 4 kg per weapon.[21][22] From this information it was possible to estimate that Israel had sufficient plutonium for about 150 nuclear weapons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu




estimates?
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Reply #51 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:42am
 
Everybody knows that Israel has nukes..

But let’s indulge in pure fantasy for 1 second and say they don’t have any in Israel.
They still have the US controlled like a puppet and can get them to use their nukes for them at any time.

So even if they don’t have them in Israel (which they do) they still technically have them.
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Reply #52 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:43am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:39am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:38am:
I started a poll:

Does Israel have nuclear weapons?



Nobody knows for sure.
What a bunch of clowns the other side of the world think is irrelevant.



The Pakis and Indians each have one nuclear weapon but the Israelis's have none Cheesy LOL

You need to get out more Hicks. Your ignorance is laughable Cheesy LOL
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Reply #53 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:43am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:40am:
... wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:39am:
Israel maintains a policy of what it calls "nuclear ambiguity". It argues that neither confirming nor denying it has such weapons helps deter its enemies. The US Central Intelligence Agency estimates that Israel has between 200 and 400 nuclear warheads, making it the world's fifth largest nuclear power.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jul/06/israelandthepalestinians.unitednatio...


Vanunu gave detailed descriptions of lithium-6 separation required for the production of tritium, an essential ingredient of fusion-boosted fission bombs. While both experts concluded that Israel might be making such single-stage boosted bombs, Vanunu, whose work experience was limited to material (not component) production, gave no specific evidence that Israel was making two-stage thermonuclear bombs, such as neutron bombs. Vanunu described the plutonium processing used, giving a production rate of about 30 kg per year, and stated that Israel used about 4 kg per weapon.[21][22] From this information it was possible to estimate that Israel had sufficient plutonium for about 150 nuclear weapons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu




estimates?



Yes.  It means they have somewhere between 200 and 400 - not a specific number like 327.
But I guess the CIA wouldn't know bugger all.  If it had have been Mossad estimating somthing, you'd cream your pants and couldn't agree fast enough.
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Reply #54 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:45am
 
Tell me where I said Israel have none....

Waiting to see this.

Pretty sure I said Israel has never admitted nor denied.

I made no personal comment.
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Reply #55 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:45am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 9:47am:
I'd like to see Israel undergo the same IAEA inspections as
they insist Iran should have.
The whole Middle East situation reeks of hypocrisy.

Why should Israel hold 300 nuclear weapons with impunity?

We are all threated by Israel not Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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In 2003, Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at Israel’s Hebrew University, thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[19] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:


"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.


You couldn't be any more wrong.
Israel is not going to have the IAEA inspectors go through, simply because the IAEA is chockas full of Middle Easterners and their sympathisers.
It is akin to the US accepting Soviet nuclear inspectors in the US during the Cold war.
It ain't gonna happen.
Secondly, has anyone actually seen any one of these supposed 300  Israeli nuclear weapons, and where are they stored?
You also might want to check when General Dayan stated those words which you have quoted, and the context in which they were stated and the time in which that man served Israel.
You might like to remember Israel has been attacked four times by armies of the Arab League.
Not once, not twice, not three times but four.
And they weren't attacking to free the Palestinians, or any such left wing limp wristed tripe ideal.
They came to massacre Jews and wipe Israel off the map, and take off a slice of land for themselves.
And stating Israel is a threat to the world is another dopey left wing inconsidered ignorant statement.
It is not in anyone's interest to allow Israel to be destroyed.
Because that is what would happen if Israel disarmed.
The days are gone when the Jews shuffled naked and silently in the snow by the thousands off to the bathhouse for their Zyklon B shower followed by a trip up the chimney whilst the world wrung their hands and did nothing.
It ain't gonna happen again snowflake, not in this century.
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Reply #56 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:46am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:43am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:39am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:38am:
I started a poll:

Does Israel have nuclear weapons?



Nobody knows for sure.
What a bunch of clowns the other side of the world think is irrelevant.



The Pakis and Indians each have one nuclear weapon but the Israelis's have none Cheesy LOL

You need to get out more Hicks. Your ignorance is laughable Cheesy LOL



Hi Nail,
Andrei has 2 university degrees.
Shows you what a degree is worth these days.
Even naive idiots get them.
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Reply #57 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:47am
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:05am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:04am:
1 nuclear warhead is as dangerous as 300.

Have you seen what happens when it is dropped and have you seen the size of Israel???

So you agree that the terrorist state of Israel shouldnt have them,
finally some sense from you


Well, you just go and take them eh. Wink
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Reply #58 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:47am
 
lmao "the world wrung their hands and did nothing"

hahahahaha

yeah all those people fighting nazi germany was doing nothing apparently
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Reply #59 - Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:49am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 11:45am:
Tell me where I said Israel have none....

Waiting to see this.

Pretty sure I said Israel has never admitted nor denied.

I made no personal comment.



So do YOU think Israel has nuclear weapons?
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