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Reply #60 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:49am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:43am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

I started a poll:

Does Israel have nuclear weapons?

Nobody knows for sure.
What a bunch of clowns the other side of the world think is irrelevant.

The Pakis and Indians each have one nuclear weapon but the Israelis's have none Cheesy

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You need to get out more Hicks. Your ignorance is laughable Cheesy

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Hi Nail,
Andrei has 2 university degrees.
Shows you what a degree is worth these days.
Even naive idiots get them.

He got them from the same place badweekend got his and that was off the back of a cornflakes packet Wink

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Reply #62 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:52am

Let's remind Andrei,
The words of a Jew:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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In 2003, Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at Israel’s Hebrew University, thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[19] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #63 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:55am Although the destrictuon of Israel would create a new wave of jewish diaspora, that would do to their host countries what jews do. On the other hand, war on Iran would lead to a new wave of Iranian refugees, who would do to their chost countries what muslims do. Hmm...either way, we lose.
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Reply #64 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:57am

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You couldn't be any more wrong.
Israel is not going to have the IAEA inspectors go through, simply because the IAEA is chockas full of Middle Easterners and their sympathisers.

Are you kidding me?
Even if the IAEA did speak out about Israel which they wouldn’t, no one would care.
Look at how much Israel has already got away with and there are still plenty of people like you ready to kiss their ass.
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It is akin to the US accepting Soviet nuclear inspectors in the US during the Cold war.
It ain't gonna happen.

This is a stupid analogy. There is no war and Israel is only making itself a rogue state like North Korea being so secretive about it.
They are putting the entire planet at risk and yet you seem to think this is acceptable because some people attacked them in self defence.
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Secondly, has anyone actually seen any one of these supposed 300 Israeli nuclear weapons, and where are they stored?

Are you too subtly trying to suggest they don’t have nukes? Read my post a few posts above..
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You might like to remember Israel has been attacked four times by armies of the Arab League.
Not once, not twice, not three times but four.

What do you expect, are you saying if someone invaded Australia and started slaughtering innocent people that the public wouldn’t stand up and defend itself??
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And they weren't attacking to free the Palestinians, or any such left wing limp wristed tripe ideal.
They came to massacre Jews and wipe Israel off the map, and take off a slice of land for themselves.

Right, only Israel has the right to commit genocide.
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And stating Israel is a threat to the world is another dopey left wing inconsidered ignorant statement.
It is not in anyone's interest to allow Israel to be destroyed.

Israel poses a huge threat for every single living human being. They are about to start world war 3 where millions if not billions could be killed; and that if they don’t end up blowing the entire planet to pieces.
Even without that they have committed countless atrocities, are dangerously unpredictable and are the perfect definition of a TERRORIST STATE.
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The days are gone when the Jews shuffled naked and silently in the snow by the thousands off to the bathhouse for their Zyklon B shower followed by a trip up the chimney whilst the world wrung their hands and did nothing.
It ain't gonna happen again snowflake, not in this century.

Clearly you understand how bad these things are, why support them happening to others in the future.
I know for a fact in 50 years time or so people will be saying the same things we say about Nazis in regards to Israel. There is no difference.
If the Jews wanted these things to stop then they would be peaceful and not aggravate and slaughter people and start wars with no good reason.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105408 Melbourne Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #65 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:01pm It's all because of the Jews.
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Reply #66 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:08pm

... wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

Tell me where I said Israel have none....

Waiting to see this.

Pretty sure I said Israel has never admitted nor denied.

I made no personal comment.

So do YOU think Israel has nuclear weapons?

Most likely yes.
However there has never been any statement by any official from the state of Israel that this is the case.

Work friends of mine who have been in the IDF tell me there is a statement you sign at the beginning of service relating to this and the penalties of making any comment on Israel's weapons programme.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105408 Melbourne Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #67 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm the penalties of making any comment on Israel's weapons programme. Are what? - hanging?
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Reply #68 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

... wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

Tell me where I said Israel have none....

Waiting to see this.

Pretty sure I said Israel has never admitted nor denied.

I made no personal comment.

So do YOU think Israel has nuclear weapons?

Most likely yes.
However there has never been any statement by any official from the state of Israel that this is the case.

Work friends of mine who have been in the IDF tell me there is a statement you sign at the beginning of service relating to this and the penalties of making any comment on Israel's weapons programme.

So on the flip side is there any evidence that Iran even has the capability to produce nuclear weapons?

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Reply #69 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:43am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

I started a poll:

Does Israel have nuclear weapons?

Nobody knows for sure.
What a bunch of clowns the other side of the world think is irrelevant.

The Pakis and Indians each have one nuclear weapon but the Israelis's have none Cheesy

LOL

You need to get out more Hicks. Your ignorance is laughable Cheesy

LOL

Hi Nail,
Andrei has 2 university degrees.
Shows you what a degree is worth these days.
Even naive idiots get them.

He got them from the same place badweekend got his and that was off the back of a cornflakes packet Wink

There's got to be some relevance somewhere as to what my Accounting degree and the Israeli nuclear programme have to do with each other.....

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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #70 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm: the penalties of making any comment on Israel's weapons programme. Are what? - hanging? Nah its the gas chamber for them
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Reply #71 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:12pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

... wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

Tell me where I said Israel have none....

Waiting to see this.

Pretty sure I said Israel has never admitted nor denied.

I made no personal comment.

So do YOU think Israel has nuclear weapons?

Most likely yes.
However there has never been any statement by any official from the state of Israel that this is the case.

Work friends of mine who have been in the IDF tell me there is a statement you sign at the beginning of service relating to this and the penalties of making any comment on Israel's weapons programme.

So on the flip side is there any evidence that Iran even has the capability to produce nuclear weapons?

Not the point, at all.
Israel and the United States have made their stance clear.
All of this is just background noise.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #72 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:12pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm: the penalties of making any comment on Israel's weapons programme. Are what? - hanging? Considerable period of imprisonment.
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Reply #73 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:13pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:12pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:08pm:

... wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

Tell me where I said Israel have none....

Waiting to see this.

Pretty sure I said Israel has never admitted nor denied.

I made no personal comment.

So do YOU think Israel has nuclear weapons?

Most likely yes.
However there has never been any statement by any official from the state of Israel that this is the case.

Work friends of mine who have been in the IDF tell me there is a statement you sign at the beginning of service relating to this and the penalties of making any comment on Israel's weapons programme.

So on the flip side is there any evidence that Iran even has the capability to produce nuclear weapons?

Not the point, at all.
Israel and the United States have made their stance clear.
All of this is just background noise.

Their stance on what, things that havent actually happened and there is no evidential plan for them to happen?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: "Israel & US are one!" Reply #74 - Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:13pm bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm: Bobby. wrote on Mar 9^th, 2012 at 12:11pm: the penalties of making any comment on Israel's weapons programme. Are what? - hanging? Nah its the gas chamber for them Try at least some time to keep your anti-semitism and holocaust references out of things.
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Question: Does Israel have nuclear weapons?
Yes 20 (83.3%) No 1 (4.2%) unsure 3 (12.5%) Total votes: 24 « Created by: Bobby. on: Mar 9^th, 2012 at 11:38am »