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Reply #30 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:36pm
 
You need to understand the difference between collateral damage as a result of military action by soldiers and weaponry targetting militants and trying to avoid civilian casualties (USA and Israel).

And -

Terrorists who fly planeloads of civilians into buildings that are not military and office blocks (9/11) -

Blowing up commuter trains (7/7)

Blowing up buses in market places (Palestinians)


Marked difference, One trying to avoid, the other deliberately targetting.
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Reply #31 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:38pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:36pm:
You need to understand the difference between collateral damage as a result of military action by soldiers and weaponry targetting militants and trying to avoid civilian casualties (USA and Israel).

And -

Terrorists who fly planeloads of civilians into buildings that are not military and office blocks (9/11) -

Blowing up commuter trains (7/7)

Blowing up buses in market places (Palestinians)


Marked difference, One trying to avoid, the other deliberately targetting.



Pretty hard to justify this incident.  The soldier went loco - I can't see any other way to spin it.
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Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians
Reply #32 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:38pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
Annie - we are talking here about a country which had the Taliban.

A regime which allowed the training camps of the 9/11 and 7/7 bombers who murdered thousands of innocent civilians.

Perspective here is needed.

Soldiers get out of control sometimes and its tragic.



A soldier that walks into someone's home and shoots children is a terrorist.
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Reply #33 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:38pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:26pm:
Andrei:
Quote:
Pansi is a rabid anti-American and will look for any way to criticise this country.
Of that there can be no doubt.

Yet she cheers for the emergence of China and cares not a jot for China's human rights abuses...

Go figure.
You guys bring on your own demise, dont blame the people who point it out.

Dont talk about human rights, you dont give a crap about the millions of people your nation has killed and the billions it has starved all over the globe



My country is Great Britain my friend.

I merely live in the United States - though I am perfectly prepared to defend what I believe is the best country in the world.
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Reply #34 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:39pm
 
... wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:38pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:36pm:
You need to understand the difference between collateral damage as a result of military action by soldiers and weaponry targetting militants and trying to avoid civilian casualties (USA and Israel).

And -

Terrorists who fly planeloads of civilians into buildings that are not military and office blocks (9/11) -

Blowing up commuter trains (7/7)

Blowing up buses in market places (Palestinians)


Marked difference, One trying to avoid, the other deliberately targetting.



Pretty hard to justify this incident.  The soldier went loco - I can't see any other way to spin it.


Neither have I tried to justify this one.
This is unfortunate and an isolated incident that happens.
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Reply #35 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 6:20pm
 
Andrei your a psychopath
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Reply #36 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 6:54pm
 
From an avowed anti-semite who is on here openly stating the Jews deserved the holocaust and they deserve another....

Interesting.

You'll be forgiven if any criticism by you, given your despicable views, is not worth a bucket of piss.
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Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians
Reply #37 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 7:02pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:36pm:
You need to understand the difference between collateral damage as a result of military action by soldiers and weaponry targetting militants and trying to avoid civilian casualties (USA and Israel).

And -

Terrorists who fly planeloads of civilians into buildings that are not military and office blocks (9/11) -

Blowing up commuter trains (7/7)

Blowing up buses in market places (Palestinians)


Marked difference, One trying to avoid, the other deliberately targetting.



So if they are rich and can affors all sorts of sophisticated weapons to kill civilians with, then they are the good guys?

If you can nuke half a million people at Hiroshima and Nagasaki you are must be one of the rich/good duys and not a terrorist I suppose you think.


Perhaps the civilians killed in 9/11 were all collateral damage, afterall the real target was US arrogance.


Doctor: 90% of war casualties at Gaza hospital were civilians

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‘They bombed a children’s playground’: the war on Gaza
http://kiaoragaza.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/they-bombed-a-childrens-playground-th...


Gaza children shelled with flechette bombs

http://electronicintifada.net/content/gaza-children-shelled-flechette-bombs/8947

Gaza's darkest day: 40 die as Israel bombs 'safe haven' UN school


Many children were among the dead in what Gordon Brown called the ‘darkest moment yet’ in the Gaza crisis.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1106542/Gazas-darkest-day-40-die-Israel-...
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Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians
Reply #38 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 7:04pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 6:54pm:
From an avowed anti-semite who is on here openly stating the Jews deserved the holocaust and they deserve another....

Interesting.

You'll be forgiven if any criticism by you, given your despicable views, is not worth a bucket of piss.
Thats not what I said douchebag stop trying to say I did.

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Reply #39 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 7:05pm
 
falah wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 7:02pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:36pm:
You need to understand the difference between collateral damage as a result of military action by soldiers and weaponry targetting militants and trying to avoid civilian casualties (USA and Israel).

And -

Terrorists who fly planeloads of civilians into buildings that are not military and office blocks (9/11) -

Blowing up commuter trains (7/7)

Blowing up buses in market places (Palestinians)


Marked difference, One trying to avoid, the other deliberately targetting.



So if they are rich and can affors all sorts of sophisticated weapons to kill civilians with, then they are the good guys?

If you can nuke half a million people at Hiroshima and Nagasaki you are must be one of the rich/good duys and not a terrorist I suppose you think.


Perhaps the civilians killed in 9/11 were all collateral damage, afterall the real target was US arrogance.


Doctor: 90% of war casualties at Gaza hospital were civilians

http://www.haaretz.com/news/doctor-90-of-war-casualties-at-gaza-hospital-were-ci...

‘They bombed a children’s playground’: the war on Gaza
http://kiaoragaza.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/they-bombed-a-childrens-playground-th...


Gaza children shelled with flechette bombs

http://electronicintifada.net/content/gaza-children-shelled-flechette-bombs/8947

Gaza's darkest day: 40 die as Israel bombs 'safe haven' UN school


Many children were among the dead in what Gordon Brown called the ‘darkest moment yet’ in the Gaza crisis.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/06/article-1106542-02F55D8F000005DC-252_4...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/06/article-1106542-02F6B4D9000005DC-272_4...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/06/article-1106542-02F59053000005DC-44_46...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/01/06/article-1106542-02F563AE000005DC-393_4...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1106542/Gazas-darkest-day-40-die-Israel-...

bugger US and Israeli scum
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Re: U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians
Reply #40 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 7:10pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Mar 12th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
Annie - we are talking here about a country which had the Taliban.

A regime which allowed the training camps of the 9/11 and 7/7 bombers who murdered thousands of innocent civilians.

Perspective here is needed.

Soldiers get out of control sometimes and its tragic.



Taliban 'offered bin Laden trial before 9/11'


Former minister says group was prepared to see bin Laden put on trial prior to 9/11, but US was not interested.


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2011/09/20119115334167663.html
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Reply #41 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 7:11pm
 
...There were conflicting accounts of how many US soldiers were involved, with witness accounts saying there were several.

But officials from the US embassy, ISAF and from Washington said it appeared there was only one...

The soldier in custody was described by one Washington official as a staff sergeant who was married with three children.

The sergeant had served three tours in Iraq but was on his first deployment in Afghanistan, the official said.

Neighbours and relatives of the dead said they saw a group of US soldiers arrive at their village in Panjwai district, about 35km from Kandahar City, about 2.00am (local time)....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-12/taliban-vow-revenge-for-us-soldier27s-rampage/3884424
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Reply #42 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 7:53pm
 
This is now a bigger deal than the 19 coalition soldiers killed by AFghan Army soldiers in the last few years, Australians, Americans, French and others.


The evil West, they wants to rob Afghhanistan of it rubble.

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Reply #43 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 8:26pm
 
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Reply #44 - Mar 12th, 2012 at 9:31pm
 
‘US forces burned bodies of Afghans after massacre’


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A mourner cries over the bodies of the Afghan civilians, shot by US forces, in the Alkozai village in Kandahar Province in southeastern Afghanistan on March 11, 2012.

Afghan eyewitnesses say US troopers have burnt nearly a dozen bodies of the Afghan victims, whom American servicemen had killed during an earlier massacre.


Early Sunday, US forces opened fire on Afghan civilians inside their homes in the district of Panjwaii in the southern province of Kandahar, killing at least 17 civilians and injuring several others. The Taliban militants said at least 50 people were killed in the massacre.

Earlier reports said the assassin was a lone US sergeant.

Villagers said the US forces later collected 11 of the bodies, including those of four girls under the age of six, and set them on fire.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has condemned the bloodshed, calling it an inhuman, intentional, and unforgiveable act.

“When Afghan people are killed deliberately by US forces, this action is murder and terror and an unforgivable action," Karzai said in a statement.

"The government and the people of Afghanistan demand an explanation from the United States government of this incident."

Civilian casualties in Afghanistan have been a major source of tension between Kabul and Washington.

The outrages came in the wake of violent clashes in several Afghan provinces over recent desecration of the Holy Qur’an by the United States forces at the US-run Bagram Airbase in the province of Parwan in northeastern Afghanistan. The violence left over 30 people, including six American forces, dead and around 180 others injured.

The US-led invasion of Afghanistan was launched in 2001. The offensive removed the Taliban from power, but insecurity continues to rise across the country, despite the presence there of tens of thousands of US-led troops.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/231218.html
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