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Reply #240 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 12:29pm
 
brumbie wrote on Apr 14th, 2012 at 9:12am:
IRAQI DEATHS DUE TO IRAQI INVASION OF KUWAIT:
1,455,590


Care to explain how that happened? Did it involve US-led sanctions? US-led bombings? US-led invasions?

How much oil did the US puppets in Kuwait steal from Iraq? Through slant drilling, Iraq estimated $2.4 billion worth of oil stolen by the US puppets.



On July 25, 1990, the U.S. Ambassador in Iraq, April Glaspie, asked the Iraqi high command to explain the military preparations in progress, including the massing of Iraqi troops near the border.

The American ambassador declared to her Iraqi interlocutor that Washington, “inspired by the friendship and not by confrontation, does not have an opinion” on the disagreement between Kuwait and Iraq, stating "we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts."

She also let Saddam Hussein know that the U.S. did not intend "to start an economic war against Iraq". These statements caused Saddam to believe he had received a diplomatic green light from the United States to invade Kuwait.


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US Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, pretends US will not intervene in Iraq/Kuwait dispute


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Donald Rumsfeld meets Saddam Hussein.


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Published: September 23, 1990

On July 25, President Saddam Hussein of Iraq summoned the United States Ambassador to Baghdad, April Glaspie, to his office in the last high-level contact between the two Governments before the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait on Aug. 2. Here are excerpts from a document described by Iraqi Government officials as a transcript of the meeting, which also included the Iraqi Foreign Minister, Tariq Aziz. A copy was provided to The New York Times by ABC News, which translated it from the Arabic. The State Department has declined to comment on its accuracy...

(US Ambassador to Iraq) GLASPIE:

...I have lived here for years. I admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. I know you need funds. We understand that and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait....Mr. President (Saddam), not only do I want to say that President Bush wanted better and deeper relations with Iraq, but he also wants an Iraqi contribution to peace and prosperity in the Middle East. President Bush is an intelligent man. He is not going to declare an economic war against Iraq.


http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/23/world/confrontation-in-the-gulf-excerpts-from-iraqi-document-on-meeting-with-us-envoy.html?pagewanted=7&src=pm/


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AMBASSADOR WAS SUMMONED BY PRESIDENT SADDAM HUSAYN AT NOON JULY 25. ALSO PRESENT WERE FONMIN AZIZ, THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE DIRECTOR, TWO NOTETAKERS, AND THE IRAQI INTERPRETER.

¶4. SADDAM, WHOSE MANNER WAS CORDIAL,
REASONABLE AND EVEN WARM THROUGHOUT THE ENSUING TWO HOURS, SAID HE WISHED THE AMBASSADOR TO CONVEY A MESSAGE TO PRESIDENT BUSH. SADDAM THEN RECALLED IN DETAIL THE HISTORY OF IRAQ'S DECISION TO REESTABLISH DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS AND ITS POSTPONING IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT
DECISION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR, RATHER THAN BE THOUGHT WEAK AND NEEDY. HE THEN SPOKE ABOUT THE MANY "BLOWS" OUR RELATIONS HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO SINCE 1984, CHIEF AMONG THEM IRANGATE. IT WAS AFTER THE FAW VICTORY, SADDAM SAID, THAT IRAQI MISAPPREHENSIONS ABOUT USG PURPOSES BEGAN TO SURFACE AGAIN, I.E., SUSPICIONS THAT THE U.S. WAS NOT HAPPY TO SEE THE WAR END.

¶5. PICKING HIS WORDS WITH CARE, SADDAM SAID
THAT THERE ARE "SOME CIRCLES" IN THE USG,
INCLUDING IN CIA AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT,
BUT EMPHATICALLY EXCLUDING THE PRESIDENT AND
SECRETARY BAKER, WHO ARE NOT FRIENDLY TOWARD IRAQ-U.S. RELATIONS
. HE THEN LISTED WHAT HE SEEMED TO REGARD AS FACTS TO SUPPORT THIS CONCLUSION: "SOME CIRCLES ARE GATHERING INFORMATION ON WHO MIGHT BE SADDAM HUSAYN'S SUCCESSOR;" THEY KEPT UP CONTACTS IN THE GULF WARNING AGAINST IRAQ; THEY WORKED TO ENSURE NO HELP WOULD GO TO IRAQ ...

...AFTER A SHORT DIVERSION ON THE NEED FOR THE
U.S. TO CONSIDER THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF 200,000
ARABS WITH THE SAME VIGOR AND INTEREST AS THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF THE ISRAELIS, SADDAM CONCLUDED BY RESTATING THAT IRAQ WANTS AMERICAN FRIENDSHIP "ALTHOUGH WE WILL NOT PANT FOR IT, WE WILL DO OUR PART AS FRIENDS."...


¶21. THE AMBASSADOR THANKED SADDAM FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS DIRECTLY WITH HIM SOME OF HIS AND OUR CONCERNS. PRESIDENT BUSH, TOO, WANTS FRIENDSHIP, AS HE HAD WRITTEN AT THE 'EID AND ON THE OCCASION OF IRAQ'S NATIONAL DAY. SADDAM INTERRUPTED TO SAY HE HAD BEEN TOUCHED BY THOSE.

¶22. AMBASSADOR RESUMED HER THEME, RECALLING THAT THE PRESIDENT HAD INSTRUCTED HER TO BROADEN AND DEEPEN OUR RELATIONS WITH IRAQ. SADDAM HAD REFERRED TO "SOME CIRCLES" ANTIPATHETIC TO THAT AIM. SUCH CIRCLES CERTAINLY EXISTED, BUT THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION IS INSTRUCTED BY THE PRESIDENT. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT CONTROL THE AMERICAN PRESS; IF HE DID, CRITICISM OF THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD NOT EXIST....

¶23. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS
VERY RECENTLY REAFFIRMED HIS DESIRE FOR A BETTER
RELATIONSHIP AND HAS PROVEN THAT BY, FOR EXAMPLE,
OPPOSING SANCTIONS BILLS. HERE SADDAM INTERRUPTED AGAIN. LAUGHING, HE SAID THERE IS NOTHING LEFT FOR IRAQ TO BUY IN THE U.S. EVERYTHING IS PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR WHEAT, AND NO DOUBT THAT WILL SOON BE DECLARED A DUAL-USE ITEM- SADDAM SAID...

¶24. AMBASSADOR SAID THERE WERE MANY ISSUES HE HAD RAISED SHE WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON, BUT SHE WISHED TO USE HER LIMITED TIME WITH THE PRESIDENT TO STRESS FIRST PRESIDENT BUSH'S DESIRE FOR FRIENDSHIP

¶25. SADDAM SAID THAT WAS INDEED A REASONABLE QUESTION. HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED FOR REGIONAL PEACE, IN FACT IT IS OUR DUTY AS A SUPERPOWER. "BUT HOW CAN WE MAKE THEM (KUWAIT AND UAE) UNDERSTAND HOW DEEPLY WE ARE SUFFERING." THE FINANCIAL SITUATION IS SUCH THAT THE PENSIONS FOR WIDOWS AND ORPHANS WILL HAVE
TO BE CUT. AT THIS POINT, THE INTERPRETER AND
ONE OF THE NOTETAKERS BROKE DOWN AND WEPT.

¶26. AFTER A PAUSE FOR RECUPERATION, SADDAM SAID, IN EFFECT, BELIEVE ME I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING: WE SENT ENVOYS, WROTE MESSAGES, ASKED FAHD TO ARRANGE QUADRAPARTITE SUMMIT (IRAQ, SAG, UE, KUWAIT). FAHD SUGGESTFD OIL MINISTERS INSTEAD AND WE AGREED TO THE JEDDAH AGREEMENT ALTHOUGH IT WAS WELL BELOW OUR HOPES. THEN, SADDAM CONTINUED, TWO DAYS LATER THE KUWAITI OIL MINISTER ANNOUNCED HE WOULD WANT TO ANNUL THAT AGREEMENT WITHIN TWO MONTHS. AS FOR THE UAE, SADDAM SAID, I BEGGED SHAYKH ZAYID TO UNDERSTAND OUR PROBLEMS (WHEN SADDAM ENTERTAINED HIM IN MOSUL AFTER THE BAGHDAD SUMMIT), AND ZAYID SAID JUST WAIT UNTIL I GET BACK TO ABU DHABI. BUT THEN HIS MINISTER OF OIL MADE "BAD STATEMENTS."

¶27. AT THIS POINT, SADDAM LEFT THE ROOM TO TAKE AN URGENT CALL FROM MUBARAK. AFTER HIS RETURN, THE AMBASSADOR ASKED IF HE COULD TELL HER IF THERE HAS ANY PROGRESS IN FINDING A PEACEFUL WAY TO DEFUSE THE DISPUTE. THIS WAS SOMETHING PRESIDENT BUSH WOULD BE KEENLY INTERESTED TO KNOW. SADDAM SAID THAT HE HAD JUST LEARNED FROM MUBARAK THE KUWAITIS HAVE AGREED TO NEGOTIATE. THE KUWAITI CROWN PRINCE/PRIME MINISTER WOULD MEET IN RIYADH WITH SADDAM'S NUMBER TWO, IZZAT IBRAHIM, AND THEN THE KUWAITI WOULD COME TO BAGHDAD ON SATURDAY, SUNDAY OR, AT THE LATEST, MONDAY, JULY 30.

¶28. "I TOLD MUBARAK," SADDAM SAID, THAT "NOTHING WILL HAPPEN UNTIL THE MEETING," AND NOTHING WILL HAPPEN DURING OR AFTER THE MEETING IF THE KUWAITIS WILL AT LAST "GIVE US SOME HOPE."

¶29. THE AMBASSADOR SAID SHE WAS DELIGHTED TO HEAR THIS GOOD NEWS. SADDAM THEN ASKED HER TO CONVEY HIS WARM GREETINGS TO PRESIDENT BUSH AND TO CONVEY HIS MESSAGE TO HIM.

¶30...THE AMBASSADOR SAID THAT SHE HAD SERVED IN KUWAIT 20 YEARS BEFORE; THEN, AS NOW, WE TOOK NO POSITION ON THESE ARAB AFFAIRS.

¶31. COMMENT: ...--IRAQ, WHICH LOST 100,000'S OF CASUALTIES (in war with Iran), IS SUFFERING AND KUWAIT IS "MISERLY" AND "SELFISH."

http://www.wikileaks.ch/cable/1990/07/90BAGHDAD4237.html#


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Reply #241 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 12:46pm
 
In Gulf war why did Iraq fire missiles to Israel when we is not even in the war?

Arabs = Cowards
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Reply #242 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 12:49pm
 
All Arabs are cowards? You're a racist.

Geez. Couldn't see that coming.

You'd be flipping your lid and playing the well-worn anti-semite card if someone generalised about Jews like that. Hypocrite.
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Reply #243 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 12:54pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 14th, 2012 at 12:46pm:
In Gulf war why did Iraq fire missiles to Israel when we is not even in the war?

Arabs = Cowards



Avram - to write something like that means
you have no understanding of the Middle East at all.
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Reply #244 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 12:55pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Apr 14th, 2012 at 12:49pm:
All Arabs are cowards? You're a racist.

Geez. Couldn't see that coming.

You'd be flipping your lid and playing the well-worn anti-semite card if someone generalised about Jews like that. Hypocrite.



Annie, Arabs has attacked us unprovocked many times in the last 50 years.
When we fights back and takes the land - they runs screaming like children and asking world to demand the land back.

In Hebrew that is known as "pahdan" using english letters.
Coward.
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Reply #245 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 1:19pm
 
They haven't attacked you unprovoked. You provoked them when you took a big chunk of Arab land and called it your own, then invited the rest of the Jewish world to come and stay over.

Your country consistently provokes the Palestinians so that they will respond and you can use that excuse to crackdown and steal even more land.


Why do you think so many people sympathise with the Palestinians? It's certainly not due to a perception of cowardice. Your government and people who think like you are the cowards.

You talk tough because you know you have the backing of the US. Without it, your country is nothing. Personally, I hope they wake up to themselves and leave you to it.


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Reply #246 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 1:24pm
 
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Now who is being racist?
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Reply #247 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 1:25pm
 
Where's the racism in that?
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Reply #248 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 1:28pm
 
Sorry I keep forgetting that only white people can be racist. If Arabs want to insist that only ethic Arabs (and not Jewish ones) may own land in the area is that not also racist?
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Reply #249 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 1:42pm
 
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Where did I say that? There were plenty of Arab Jews that owned land and businesses back before al Naqba, for a start. Other nationalities managed to live side by side in peace.

It's not like the European Jewry offered fair prices and purchased Arab owned land - they evicted them and cleared them out - surely you can see the difference.

Is that not provocation?

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Reply #250 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 1:45pm
 
Arabs can live anywhere else in the whole Arab world.
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Reply #251 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 1:46pm
 
You do not like it we retaliates to their coward bomb attacks yes Annie?

You do not like we uses our F-16s to reply?
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Reply #252 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 1:50pm
 
I think we both know who the real cowards are, Avram.
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Reply #253 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 1:53pm
 
People who blows up school bus with pregnant women and 3. Year old on or maybe who fires rockets from Gaza from apartment blocks where they know is women and children?

Are these brave for you Annie?
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Reply #254 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 2:06pm
 
Nope. They're scum.

Just like Israeli soldiers who drop bombs on houses and hospitals and families playing on the beach. Who let pregnant women birth dead babies on the side of the road at checkpoints.

And Israeli soldiers who refuse entry to Palestinian human beings on the grounds that they're like rats are scum too.
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