freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2012 at 12:09pm:



Most of the land was owned by Muslims,as most of the people in Palestine were Muslims 100 years ago. Less than half were Christian, and there were a few other like Jews and Druze.

Most of Palestine was owned by Muslims and all of the country was controlled by the Muslim Ottoman Government.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 31^st, 2012 at 2:48pm:



And in 1944, most of Europe was Nazi Germany, that was also a fact.

Another fact Avram is that Israel will fall just as the Nazi empire fell.

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 31^st, 2012 at 3:18pm:


Your technology can not match the heart of a true believer.

If the Muslim warriors can bring the British, Soviet and now American empires to their knees, imagine what they can do to your little outpost that is currently polluting Palestine.

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 31^st, 2012 at 3:25pm:



Tell us about the Iraq-Iran war Abu. That was a clash of true believers, no?
Martyrdom operations on a grand scale.

Bring to their knees? Like Vietnam brough America to its knees? Giving up on you is not the same as being defeated by you.  The Soviets had to die of something. As for the Americans, it will require American ingenuity to kneecap America.

Soren wrote on Mar 31^st, 2012 at 3:44pm:


How old are you? 12? You obviously don't know much about modern history.

The Americans left Vietnam in complete humiliation.

Bombing of US Embassy



US embassy evacuation



US Chopper downed by Vietnamese






Pro-US fighters swimming away from victorious Viet Cong


Viet Cong Overrun US Airbase


April 29, 1975 Staff of USS Blue Ridge push a helicopter from the deck of a ship at sea, to free up space for evacuation flights from Saigon.


April 30, 1975. As the Americans left a North Vietnamese tank breaks through the gate of the presidential palace in Saigon.


The Vietnam War was a very costly war, with over 58,000 Americans dead and over 150,000 wounded in battle.


Initially, the humiliating defeat imposed by a nation that Secretary of State Henry Kissinger had described as "a fourth-rate power" caused a loss of pride and self-confidence in a people that liked to think of the United States as invincible. An agonizing reappraisal of American power and glory dampened the celebration of the Bicentennial birthday in 1976. So did the economic woes then afflicting the United States, which many blamed on the estimated $167 billion spent on the war. President Lyndon B. Johnson's decision to finance a major war and the Great Society simultaneously, without a significant increase in taxation, launched a runaway double-digit inflation and mounting federal debt that ravaged the American economy and eroded living standards from the late 1960s into the 1990s.

The United States also paid a high political cost for the Vietnam War. It weakened public faith in government, and in the honesty and competence of its leaders. Indeed, skepticism, if not cynicism, and a high degree of suspicion of and distrust toward authority of all kind characterized the views of an increasing number of Americans in the wake of the war

Congress increasingly emphasized the limits of American power, and the ceiling on the cost Americans would pay in pursuit of specific foreign policy objectives. The fear of getting bogged down in another quagmire made a majority of Americans reluctant to intervene militarily in Third World countries. The neo-isolationist tendency that former President Richard M. Nixon called "the Vietnam syndrome" would be most manifest in the public debates over President Ronald Reagan's interventionist policies in Nicaragua and President George Bush's decision to drive Iraqi forces out of Kuwait. Despite the victorious outcome of the Persian Gulf War for the United States and its allies, and President Bush's declaration in March 1991--"By God, we've kicked the Vietnam syndrome once and for all!"--the fear of intervention would reappear in the public debate over President Bill Clinton's commitment of U.S. peacekeeping forces in Somalia and Bosnia. Quite clearly, for at least a quarter of a century after the Vietnam War ended, that conflict continued to loom large in the minds of Americans. Accordingly, a new consensus among foreign policy makers, reflecting the lessons learned from the Vietnam War, became manifest: the United States should use military force only as a last resort; only where the national interest is clearly involved; only when there is strong public support; and only in the likelihood of a relatively quick, inexpensive victory.

It took nearly 30 years for the US to have the courage to embark on a similar excercise in Iraq and Afghanistan. Once again the US is humiliated.

Israel has already been defeated in southern Lebanon and Gaza. Soon the rest of Palestine will be liberated like Vietnam was, and Afghanistan is being liberated.

I will tell you one experience I had with Cast Lead in Gaza.

We has Palestinians in streets throwing rocks to us, throw the petrol bombs to us, then is snipers in apartments to us.

We stays back and orders in IAF who gives 30 mins of air strike to the buildings and to scatter peoples in the streets. After we receives advise from air force is clear path we army goes down to them with armor vehicles and to clear apartments snipers.

All the rocks still come but you know? As soon as we Israeli come what is they do in Gaza??

Run run run -- all down other street, run away, is not want to engage IDF when we enter into the city.

Now you tells me we defeated in Gaza? How can you even say so?

falah wrote on Mar 31^st, 2012 at 5:27pm:


Cast Lead was not intent of long occupation.

Intention -- like Lebanon -- is clearance of ability to threaten and fire into Israel.

We has inflict heavy casualty on Hamas and Islamic Jihad with this operation so decide to end operations.
See how we decides when we stop and no body else do?