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Bank Interest Rates Remain Dangerously Low
Mar 23rd, 2012 at 9:24am
 
There is no doubt that Bank Interest Rates are being held dangerously artificially low by subsidized interference from Wayne Swan and the Government and something has to give or we risk further economic catastrophe.  The Banks must move on interest rates and lift them to an economically sound and sustainable level.  A subsidized housing market helps nobody.

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Interest rates at right level - RBA


The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) believes interest rates are at the right level to balance out the effect of Australia's surging resources sector against weaker industries like manufacturing and retail.

The RBA released the minutes to its March 6 board meeting today, at which it kept the cash rate unchanged at 4.25 per cent.

The cental bank has kept the cash rate unchanged at two consecutive monthly board meetings, after cutting it by 25 basis points in November Huh and again, by the same amount, in December.

According to the minutes, the board noted that high terms of trade and Australian dollar were causing ``significant structural adjustment'' in the domestic economy. Huh

The resources sector continued to boom, with investment in capital expenditure in 2012/13 expected to exceed already elevated levels, while other industries, including construction, retail and manufacturing, remained weak.

The overall effect, it said, was that the economy was growing "around trend'' with inflation within the RBA's target band of two to three per cent.

``In this regard, most information thus far had indicated that weakness in parts of the economy was being approximately balanced by the strength in the mining sector and some service industries,'' the RBA said in the minutes.

It said the biggest risk to the economy was a significant worsening of financial conditions in Europe stemming from the continent's sovereign debt crisis. Sad

However, the likelihood of a major economic downturn had diminished in recent months and, if one did occur, the RBA had scope to cut the cash rate to stimulate the economy.

HSBC chief economist Paul Bloxham said the RBA was trying to balance the conflicting forces within the economy. Shocked

``We know that there are two real forces working in opposite directions: weak productivity growth is an upside risk to inflation but, at the same time, the strong Aussie dollar and the structural change we are seeing is also slowing down growth, which can lower inflation,'' he said.

``They are not certain which way this will play out but they seem comfortable where they are for the moment and, overall, they still see scope to cut interest rates if they need to.''

Westpac senior market strategist Damien McColough said the minutes indicated that the RBA believed its current policy settings were appropriate.
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Re: Bank Interest Rates Remain Dangerously Low
Reply #1 - Mar 23rd, 2012 at 10:30am
 
Im always happy to get more for my money..bank interest rates are to low if they not in double figures as far as Im concerned.
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Re: Bank Interest Rates Remain Dangerously Low
Reply #2 - Mar 23rd, 2012 at 1:00pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 9:24am:
There is no doubt that Bank Interest Rates are being held dangerously artificially low by subsidized interference from Wayne Swan and the Government and something has to give or we risk further economic catastrophe.  The Banks must move on interest rates and lift them to an economically sound and sustainable level.  A subsidized housing market helps nobody.

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Interest rates at right level - RBA


The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) believes interest rates are at the right level to balance out the effect of Australia's surging resources sector against weaker industries like manufacturing and retail.

The RBA released the minutes to its March 6 board meeting today, at which it kept the cash rate unchanged at 4.25 per cent.

The cental bank has kept the cash rate unchanged at two consecutive monthly board meetings, after cutting it by 25 basis points in November Huh and again, by the same amount, in December.

According to the minutes, the board noted that high terms of trade and Australian dollar were causing ``significant structural adjustment'' in the domestic economy. Huh

The resources sector continued to boom, with investment in capital expenditure in 2012/13 expected to exceed already elevated levels, while other industries, including construction, retail and manufacturing, remained weak.

The overall effect, it said, was that the economy was growing "around trend'' with inflation within the RBA's target band of two to three per cent.

``In this regard, most information thus far had indicated that weakness in parts of the economy was being approximately balanced by the strength in the mining sector and some service industries,'' the RBA said in the minutes.

It said the biggest risk to the economy was a significant worsening of financial conditions in Europe stemming from the continent's sovereign debt crisis. Sad

However, the likelihood of a major economic downturn had diminished in recent months and, if one did occur, the RBA had scope to cut the cash rate to stimulate the economy.

HSBC chief economist Paul Bloxham said the RBA was trying to balance the conflicting forces within the economy. Shocked

``We know that there are two real forces working in opposite directions: weak productivity growth is an upside risk to inflation but, at the same time, the strong Aussie dollar and the structural change we are seeing is also slowing down growth, which can lower inflation,'' he said.

``They are not certain which way this will play out but they seem comfortable where they are for the moment and, overall, they still see scope to cut interest rates if they need to.''

Westpac senior market strategist Damien McColough said the minutes indicated that the RBA believed its current policy settings were appropriate.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/interest-rates-at-right-level-rba/story-e6fr...
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The current OZ interest rates, as indicated in the following chart, are not low, as inicated in the following chart and the official RBA figures at their website. 
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http://www.rba.gov.au/statistics/cash-rate.html

NOW, THESE ARE LOW!

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In fact, the next couple of decades will be particularly difficult, which will cause local & overseas Banks a great deal of problems, as well as the rest of us.

That said, I would suggest that the next likely move from the RBA will be down, as the Global & OZ Economies continue on a Declining Demand trend, due primarily to Demographic, Energy & Debt related factors initially, but also affected by Climate Change issues!
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Reply #3 - May 1st, 2012 at 8:12pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 9:24am:
There is no doubt that Bank Interest Rates are being held dangerously artificially low by subsidized interference from Wayne Swan and the Government and something has to give or we risk further economic catastrophe.  The Banks must move on interest rates and lift them to an economically sound and sustainable level.  A subsidized housing market helps nobody.

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Interest rates at right level - RBA


The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) believes interest rates are at the right level to balance out the effect of Australia's surging resources sector against weaker industries like manufacturing and retail.

The RBA released the minutes to its March 6 board meeting today, at which it kept the cash rate unchanged at 4.25 per cent.

The cental bank has kept the cash rate unchanged at two consecutive monthly board meetings, after cutting it by 25 basis points in November Huh and again, by the same amount, in December.

According to the minutes, the board noted that high terms of trade and Australian dollar were causing ``significant structural adjustment'' in the domestic economy. Huh

The resources sector continued to boom, with investment in capital expenditure in 2012/13 expected to exceed already elevated levels, while other industries, including construction, retail and manufacturing, remained weak.

The overall effect, it said, was that the economy was growing "around trend'' with inflation within the RBA's target band of two to three per cent.

``In this regard, most information thus far had indicated that weakness in parts of the economy was being approximately balanced by the strength in the mining sector and some service industries,'' the RBA said in the minutes.

It said the biggest risk to the economy was a significant worsening of financial conditions in Europe stemming from the continent's sovereign debt crisis. Sad

However, the likelihood of a major economic downturn had diminished in recent months and, if one did occur, the RBA had scope to cut the cash rate to stimulate the economy.

HSBC chief economist Paul Bloxham said the RBA was trying to balance the conflicting forces within the economy. Shocked

``We know that there are two real forces working in opposite directions: weak productivity growth is an upside risk to inflation but, at the same time, the strong Aussie dollar and the structural change we are seeing is also slowing down growth, which can lower inflation,'' he said.

``They are not certain which way this will play out but they seem comfortable where they are for the moment and, overall, they still see scope to cut interest rates if they need to.''

Westpac senior market strategist Damien McColough said the minutes indicated that the RBA believed its current policy settings were appropriate.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/interest-rates-at-right-level-rba/story-e6fr...
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What do you think of todays rate cuts by the RBA?
In the 70'th the mortgage rate for homes was 4.5-5% and the banks were paying 2% on bank accounts, with no minimum limit and they did not go broke.
Today the depositors want huge ineterests and the banks have to satisfy the shareholders as well, raking in record profits.
Is greed that good?
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Reply #4 - May 2nd, 2012 at 7:37pm
 
There are other factors, including downside risk, which is still a significant factor. If you didn't have investors, you wouldn't have home loans in the first place, and this is nothing like a normal recovery - yet. Hopefully if and when we get through this business cycle, things will improve.

The gap between the cash rate and the bank lending rates will have to reduce as interest rates increase.  If they don't, there will be a lot of foreclosures and it will be a very short lived recovery.
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Reply #5 - May 3rd, 2012 at 3:36pm
 
This is a rather long but interesting article.
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Will RBA Cash Stop the House Price Crash?


This week, nine individuals got together and decided on the price of oranges in Australia. None of them are orange farmers. They decided to reduce the price of oranges by 50 basis points, noting that orange consumers had fallen on hard times and needed some relief.

Does this sound stupid to you? Well, it's actually dangerous. When the Americans implemented price controls on food, including fruit, in Germany after World War 2, it led to starvation. Your editor's grandparents still eat their apple cores as a result.

In fact, they even used to eat your editor's apple cores when he sat on their lap. Anyway, the Americans also tried price controls at home and had to abandon them because of all the shortages and surpluses it created.

You see, when the government sets prices, it always gets them wrong. If they set prices too high, there is a surplus of goods produced, causing wasted goods and resources, and shortages in other areas.

If they set prices too low in an attempt to make things more affordable, it creates a shortage because producers don't bother producing for such a low profit. If they set the price where the market would have, the market price has probably changed by the time they get their news release out. And besides, different prices are appropriate in different places around Australia.

The Germans after World War 2 eventually abolished price controls without seeking permission from the Allies like they were supposed to. By the time the Allies figured out what had happened, the shelves filled with goods as people responded to the true market price, which satisfied buyers and sellers.

Just about all economists have figured out that price controls are a bad idea when it comes to oranges. And every other good and service. How many politicians advocate regulating the price of whatever you sell at work?

But what's odd is that everyone continues to believe in price controls for interest rates. They think someone must control the price of debt. But debt is just another good or service. People sell the use of their savings, and people buy the use of those savings. The price is the interest rate. Why does the government need to meddle with this?

Their answer is nefarious and complicated. But it tells you why Australian property owners will face far worse headlines than this one from the Herald Sun: 'Melbourne house prices plummeting'. A 7% drop over the past year is just the beginning of the consequences we might be facing from manipulated interest rates.

You see, savings and borrowings aren't actually as simple a good as they seem. Debt is in fact a transaction of buying and selling time. This is the ingredient that very few economists understand, which leads to complete confusion and ridiculous conclusions on their part. So how is borrowing money in reality borrowing time?

The fact that you have to pay the money back in the future is the big clue. Normal transactions take place with a give and take at the same time. But the agreement between the saver and borrower is an exchange of the same good (money), but in two different time periods.

Over the last seven years returns on the ASX have been close to zero.

That means: if you invest in stocks – which you most likely do through your retirement fund – right now you’re sitting back where you were in April 2005.

That’s SEVEN YEARS of returns swallowed by poor choices and poor performance.

And it gives you three options:

Retire when you planned to, but accept a lesser quality of life in later years...
Work an extra seven years to make up the shortfall...
Take control of your financial affairs now...
If you choose ‘3’ – click here to find out what to do now 

It's an agreement for the use of funds that the saver does have now but doesn't want, and the borrower who doesn't have them but wants them. The key to the transaction is the difference in time between the give and the take.

The interest rate is the price of the agreement - the price of time. Another way to think about it is that the interest rate is what you get for parting with your money for some period of time, or the price you pay for someone else doing the same thing for you.

Money itself is of course just consumption to happen in the future. We don't want money for the sake of it, but for what it can, will and could buy.

What does all this have to do with the Australian housing bubble? You need to know just one more thing before we connect the dots. You earn money by producing. You save by not spending all the money you earned.

But when the central bank prints money, it creates savings that were not first earned by the production of something, and not first saved by forgoing the consumption of what was earned by producing. This link between production, earning and saving is broken when the central bank creates artificial savings to manipulate interest rates.

Phew. Now to the Australian housing bubble.

When interest rates are kept artificially low, it sends a signal to people that savers are willing to part with their money for a period of time at quite a cheap rate. So people borrow lots, often for houses. Some people who would have saved at the true interest rate turn into borrowers because the interest rate is so low.

This creates a surplus of debt relative to real savings because the price of borrowing is so cheap and the central bank stands to flood the market with fake supply to keep rates low. More debt in the economy means house prices can be bid up. Rising house prices encourage more debt. This is called the 'positive feedback loop'. It is self-sustaining.

For a while. Eventually, the interest expenses on the vast amounts of debt reach such proportions that lenders get worried about their borrowers. They stop lending, which stops the debt fuelled price rises. Let's call this the negative gearing part of the boom because rental income isn't offsetting interest expense. That's where lenders alarm bells begin ringing because they care about the ability of borrowers to pay their bills.

As soon as prices stop rising (they don't even have to fall), the whole bubble is doomed because the capital gains justifying the negative gearing stop, creating a selling panic. Sometimes rates can be lowered to reduce the interest expense of borrowers. But there's a limit to how low they can go.

If you think all this is a bit abstract, just look at the RBA's press release. It's all about how the economy is just fine, until it mentions borrowing - a reference to mortgage rates:

'Financial market sentiment has generally improved this year, and capital markets are supplying funding to corporations and well-rated banks. At the margin, wholesale funding costs have declined over recent months.

'...growth in domestic demand ran at its fastest pace for four years.

'Labour market conditions softened during 2011, though the rate of unemployment has so far remained little changed at a low level.'

If everything is hunky dory, why cut rates? You guessed it:

'A reduction of 50 basis points in the cash rate was, in this instance, therefore judged to be necessary in order to deliver the appropriate level of borrowing rates.'

So that's how the housing bubble works. But it gets even worse, because a housing bubble causes problems for the entire economy. We'll leave that for another day.

Regards,

Nick Hubble
for The Daily Reckoning Australia







Yes, dear reader, we were on our way to Sea Island. We looked across the bridge at another island - Jekyll Island. You know Jekyll Island, don't you? It's where the monster was created...

A group of the nation's richest, biggest, and most powerful bankers got together there - in secret - in November, 1910. They figured it was time to put in place a system that would make it a little easier for them to make money. Instead of competing head to head, without any backstop to protect them when things got rough, they decided to set up a central bank.

The meeting was so cloaked in secrecy few believed it ever took place. Implausibly, it was first reported by the poet Ezra Pound. How Pound learned of it...and why he reported it...we don't know. But that's the word on the street.

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Reply #6 - May 3rd, 2012 at 3:40pm
 
B. C. Forbes reported in 1916:

Picture a party of the nation's greatest bankers stealing out of New York on a private railroad car under cover of darkness, stealthily riding hundreds of miles South, embarking on a mysterious launch, sneaking onto an island deserted by all but a few servants, living there a full week under such rigid secrecy that the names of not one of them was once mentioned, lest the servants learn the identity and disclose to the world this strangest, most secret expedition in the history of American finance.

I am not romancing; I am giving to the world, for the first time, the real story of how the famous Aldrich currency report, the foundation of our new currency system, was written... The utmost secrecy was enjoined upon all. The public must not glean a hint of what was to be done. Senator Aldrich notified each one to go quietly into a private car of which the railroad had received orders to draw up on an unfrequented platform.

Off the party set. New York's ubiquitous reporters had been foiled... Nelson (Aldrich) had confided to Henry, Frank, Paul and Piatt that he was to keep them locked up at Jekyll Island, out of the rest of the world, until they had evolved and compiled a scientific currency system for the United States, the real birth of the present Federal Reserve System, the plan done on Jekyll Island in the conference with Paul, Frank and Henry... Warburg is the link that binds the Aldrich system and the present system together. He more than any one man has made the system possible as a working reality.

And now it's official. Ben Bernanke went there to give a speech in 2010, marking the 100th year of the meeting.

The role of the Fed...apart from greasing the skids for rich bankers...was supposed to be to protect the value of the dollar. Why the dollar needed protection was never explained. For the previous 100 years, it had been solid enough - except for during the War Between the States, when Lincoln printed up far too many of them in order to pay for his attack on the South.

But Lincoln's paper dollars came and went. And on the day the Fed was officially set up, in 1913, the dollar was still worth about as much as it had been when Napoleon Bonaparte set off for Russia.

Whatever the Fed was supposed do to, what it did not do was protect the greenback. Instead, the dollar slipped and slid throughout the 20th century and is now worth only about 3 cents.

Which is why we return to yesterday's theme. There's no guarantee. But we have a feeling that the dollar will continue to lose ground. Maybe not right away. But sooner or later.

And if someone will lend you money at the lowest mortgage rates in history...in advance of what could be the greatest inflation in US history...perhaps you should take it.

We're down here at a financial conference. Among the attendees is colleague Steve Sjuggerud, who believes US real estate may be the best investment of all time. Adjusted for inflation, housing prices are back to 1979 levels, he says. But they're much better deals now. Because mortgage rates in '79 were 3 times higher.

"If you took out a mortgage in 1979," says Steve, "you'd be paying 15% to 20% interest. So, over the life of a $200,000 mortgage, you'd pay as much as $700,000, including interest.

"And you got a lot less house for your money in 1979," he continues. "The typical house sold in '79 had only 1,600 square feet of living space. Today, the average is about 2,200 sq. ft. It's a much bigger house.

"So, in terms of dollars per square foot, you're paying about $75 now compared to about $100 back then.

In terms of affordability, and value per dollar, the US house is a better deal now than it has ever been, Steve concludes. It would have to increase in value by $100,000 just to get to normal affordability levels.

"There are unbelievable bargains around," Steve goes on. He found a farm in Florida that had been appraised at more than $10 million in 2006. Now, the owner is bankrupt and the bank is desperate to get rid of it.

What bid will it take to buy it?

"Maybe less than $1 million," says Steve.

There's a time to be a borrower and a time to be a lender. As long as the Great Correction continues (and we think it will continue for a few more years...perhaps 10) it will be a good time to be a lender. Interest rates will tend to go down, not up. That is the lesson of Japan, where bonds have been the only decent investment for the last 22 years.

But thanks to that clandestine meeting on Jekyll Island 102 years ago, we probably won't stay in a Japan-like rut forever. Ben Bernanke promises. He has 'a little technology' called a printing press. And he knows how to use it!

dailyreckoning.com.au
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Reply #7 - May 3rd, 2012 at 3:58pm
 
Well done Pansi - keep up the good work while PN is away.

The section about the housing bubble is a worry for new home owners.  We don't need to worry about it, but our son has just bought a new home. If interest rates increase, it will cause quite a few foreclosures, property values plummet and hey presto, you're stuck with a loan that's more than the house is worth.

It will be interesting to see if that happens. I always remember the 80's when interest rates went sky high - around 18 percent I think. It seems unfair to have lived through that period and now, when you really want the interest rates to be high, they're about as low as you can get.  Maybe I should have been born 30 years earlier Smiley
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