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Reply #120 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 10:51am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

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No, the inhabitants didn't disappear.
The Jordanians there were no longer Jordanian.
The Egyptians there were no longer Egyptian.
The Syrians there were no longer Syrian.
Those in the British Protectorate were no longer members of the British Protectorate.
In 1948, those within the UN designated land became Israeli.

So by their label changing they somehow disappeared?

No, I've answered that.
Those 1.5 million Arabs who live and work in Israel today enjoy the highest standard of living in the Middle East.
And they are free to leave if they so choose like in every other democracy.
And they choose to be Israeli.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #121 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:01am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 10:02am:

Soren wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 9:18pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 9:03pm:

Giving it back implies that Palestinians in Gaza have some kind of autonomy. They don't really, do they?

They do. They have the freedom to build roads, schools, infrastructure, civil society, organise road maintenance and garbage collection. God knows, they get loads of money from Europe for all that.

What do you think the blockade was? Have you seen the list of goods that were prohibited under it? Cement, for one...ridiculous things designed to keep Gazans in perpetual suffering. This conflict is about psychological warfare as much as anything else.

Why do you think solidarity NGOs and some brave individuals took such risks to break it?

Israel has complete power over the citizens of Gaza.

There is no genuine autonomy.

In Australia Annie, we don't use cement to build tunnels to smuggle terrorist and weapons into someone else's land with the objective of spreading terror, or to kidnap and murder people.
In Gaza, this is exactly what muslim extremists do.
And a search on U-Tube Annie will show how these people are suffering in their new shopping malls and 5 star restaurants which have opened up.
And a look at the census conducted by Hamas in 2006 or 2008 shows the population is growing, not shrinking.
One has to ask, where are all the photos of suffering Gazan residents taken by solidarity NGO's and brave individuals.
Why aren't these photo's appearing on El Jazeera?
Why?
Israel does not control the budget for Gaza, the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank does.
And they are not willing to give Hamas kooks control over the funding.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106219 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #122 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:03am Did the Nazis allow cement into Warsaw?
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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #123 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:11am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 10:03am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 10:02am:

Soren wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 9:18pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 9:03pm:

Giving it back implies that Palestinians in Gaza have some kind of autonomy. They don't really, do they?

They do. They have the freedom to build roads, schools, infrastructure, civil society, organise road maintenance and garbage collection. God knows, they get loads of money from Europe for all that.

What do you think the blockade was? Have you seen the list of goods that were prohibited under it? Cement, for one...ridiculous things designed to keep Gazans in perpetual suffering. This conflict is about psychological warfare as much as anything else.

Why do you think solidarity NGOs and some brave individuals took such risks to break it?

Israel has complete power over the citizens of Gaza.

There is no genuine autonomy.

What is the difference between Gaza & the Warsaw ghetto?

1. The residents in Gaza aren't being starving to death.
2. Gaza City is not being carpet bombed.
3. Gaza residents are not being rounded up and sent to concentration camps.
4. The Warsaw Ghetto did not have modern shopping malls with plenty of food.
5. The Warsaw Ghetto did not have modern 5 star restaurants opening up and advertising on the Internet.
6. Gaza city does not have soldiers on the streets, just muslim terrorists.
7. Gaza has access to water, food and fuel.

Do I really need to keep going.
The islamic clowns wouldn't be living behind large walls if they could control the urge to kill Jews.

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chicken_lipsforme Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7090 Townsville NQ Gender:	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #124 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:12am Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:03am: Did the Nazis allow cement into Warsaw? The Nazis allowed nothing into Warsaw.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106219 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #125 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:16am chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:12am: Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:03am: Did the Nazis allow cement into Warsaw? The Nazis allowed nothing into Warsaw. Hi Chicken, Can you see any similarities?
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #126 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:20am Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 8:45am: Israel is proof that WW2 never ended. My grandparents spend WW2 in a Nazi Concentrations camp for being Jewish.
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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #127 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:30am

MOTR wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 5:09am:

falah wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

who say they disappear?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PaG-oRPFduY/TiweYiztuXI/AAAAAAAAAAM/1NAXPONTmdc/s1600/...

Avram, can't you understand that many outsiders are concerned about the concentration of the Palestinians into smaller and smaller areas of land. We can see Israel moving further and further away from a two state solution. I don't believe you will be happy until Israel controls the whole of Judea and Samaria.

Why does that map show Gaza as Palestinian land between 49-67?
Egypt had control of Gaza during that period they lost Gaza to Israel in the 1967 war.
Israel gave Gaza back to the Palestians when they took this land from Egypt's control.

The map also shows the west bank as being palestinian land when jordan had control of it, jordan lost the west bank to Israel in the 1967 war.

If you are going to use maps for propaganda it might pay to use ones that are accurate because you lose a sh1tload of credibility when you get caught telling lies.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #128 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:39am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 8:45am:

Israel is proof that WW2 never ended.

My grandparents spend WW2 in a Nazi Concentrations camp for being Jewish.

I am sorry to hear that.
One day - maybe 60 years from now - a Palestinian will say:

My parents spent 25 years in the Gaza concentration camp.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #129 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:49am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:12am:

[quote author=454845455E534F4245465316270 link=1332819060/122#122 date=1333069410]Did the Nazis allow cement into Warsaw?

The Nazis allowed nothing into Warsaw.

The Polish people were skinny due to a food shortage.

The men is the West Bank and Gaza ranked 8th in the world for obesity.
The women in the West Bank and Gaza ranked 3rd in the world for obesity.
Source-http://www.economist.com/node/8846631

Abu has said the shia have a doctrine that allows them to tell lies,Falah has confirmed a sunni can tell lies in 3 circumstances, In war, can lie to your wife and to reconcile 2 or more parties.
They are at war so the muslims are allowed to tell whopping great lies and all the idiots lap up their propaganda.

How can people be starving when they are ranked near the top of the world for obesity do people just accept what muslims tell them without checking to see if it is true?

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #131 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 12:36pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 8:45am:

Israel is proof that WW2 never ended.

My grandparents spend WW2 in a Nazi Concentrations camp for being Jewish.

And this gives you the right to perpetuate the same level of depravity on others?

You compare put peoples in camps and extermination through gas and compares with security check points and security blackade of materials to Gaza?

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #132 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 12:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 8:45am:

Israel is proof that WW2 never ended.

My grandparents spend WW2 in a Nazi Concentrations camp for being Jewish.

I am sorry to hear that.
One day - maybe 60 years from now - a Palestinian will say:

My parents spent 25 years in the Gaza concentration camp.

Maybe if one is build.
Right now time, there is no camp in all Gaza just free territory.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #133 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 12:41pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:12am:

[quote author=454845455E534F4245465316270 link=1332819060/122#122 date=1333069410]Did the Nazis allow cement into Warsaw?

The Nazis allowed nothing into Warsaw.

The Polish people were skinny due to a food shortage.

The men is the West Bank and Gaza ranked 8th in the world for obesity.
The women in the West Bank and Gaza ranked 3rd in the world for obesity.
Source-http://www.economist.com/node/8846631

Abu has said the shia have a doctrine that allows them to tell lies,Falah has confirmed a sunni can tell lies in 3 circumstances, In war, can lie to your wife and to reconcile 2 or more parties.
They are at war so the muslims are allowed to tell whopping great lies and all the idiots lap up their propaganda.

How can people be starving when they are ranked near the top of the world for obesity do people just accept what muslims tell them without checking to see if it is true?

That's strange - am I going blind?
I've never seen a fat person in Gaza on TV.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #134 - Mar 30^th, 2012 at 12:44pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 12:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:16am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 11:12am:

[quote author=454845455E534F4245465316270 link=1332819060/122#122 date=1333069410]Did the Nazis allow cement into Warsaw?

The Nazis allowed nothing into Warsaw.

The Polish people were skinny due to a food shortage.

The men is the West Bank and Gaza ranked 8th in the world for obesity.
The women in the West Bank and Gaza ranked 3rd in the world for obesity.
Source-http://www.economist.com/node/8846631

Abu has said the shia have a doctrine that allows them to tell lies,Falah has confirmed a sunni can tell lies in 3 circumstances, In war, can lie to your wife and to reconcile 2 or more parties.
They are at war so the muslims are allowed to tell whopping great lies and all the idiots lap up their propaganda.

How can people be starving when they are ranked near the top of the world for obesity do people just accept what muslims tell them without checking to see if it is true?

That's strange - am I going blind?
I've never seen a fat person in Gaza on TV.

This is what i has been saying.
You -- and all others -- has no real life experiences of Gaza, West Bank, Israel and the situation.

Everything of your opinion is bases on TV and newspaper.

I have real life experiences of all these.

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