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Reply #60 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:24pm

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No there was not.

You do not think that you would know more than me who comes from this place?

So you deny that thousands of Palestinians were killed and forced from their land?
How then did Israel come to be?
Was it by magic or something?
Because people don’t just instantly disappear and leave their homes.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #61 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:40pm who say they disappear? You know we has 1.5m Arabs in Israel will all right to vote yes? Tell me -- what rights do i have as Jewish person in Arab world? Is the same?
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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #62 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:51pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

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No there was not.

You do not think that you would know more than me who comes from this place?

So you deny that thousands of Palestinians were killed and forced from their land?
How then did Israel come to be?
Was it by magic or something?
Because people don’t just instantly disappear and leave their homes.

They do when their Arab leaders told them to flee like rabbits on the radio broadcasts in the region at the time.
Those that fled left to escape the intense fighting.
You obviously forget that war came to Israel the very next day after it was formed in 1948 by the United Nations.
The Israeli peoples were one day old when war came to them.
And just like those other times, even in 1948 the Arab forces were very poor invaders when they tried to steal Israel away from the British Mandate of Palestine.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #63 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:53pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

who say they disappear?

You know we has 1.5m Arabs in Israel will all right to vote yes?

Tell me -- what rights do i have as Jewish person in Arab world? Is the same?

A fraction of the rights an Arab citizen enjoys in Israel.
So many Arabs in the Knisset, even an Arab General in the IDF.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #64 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:19pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

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No there was not.

You do not think that you would know more than me who comes from this place?

So you deny that thousands of Palestinians were killed and forced from their land?
How then did Israel come to be?
Was it by magic or something?
Because people don’t just instantly disappear and leave their homes.

They do when their Arab leaders told them to flee like rabbits on the radio broadcasts in the region at the time.
Those that fled left to escape the intense fighting.
You obviously forget that war came to Israel the very next day after it was formed in 1948 by the United Nations.
The Israeli peoples were one day old when war came to them.
And just like those other times, even in 1948 the Arab forces were very poor invaders when they tried to steal Israel away from the British Mandate of Palestine.

When you kick people out of their land and start killing people who resist of course people are going to defend themselves.
War did not come to Israel, Israel started the war.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #65 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:21pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

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No there was not.

You do not think that you would know more than me who comes from this place?

So you deny that thousands of Palestinians were killed and forced from their land?
How then did Israel come to be?
Was it by magic or something?
Because people don’t just instantly disappear and leave their homes.

They do when their Arab leaders told them to flee like rabbits on the radio broadcasts in the region at the time.
Those that fled left to escape the intense fighting.
You obviously forget that war came to Israel the very next day after it was formed in 1948 by the United Nations.
The Israeli peoples were one day old when war came to them.
And just like those other times, even in 1948 the Arab forces were very poor invaders when they tried to steal Israel away from the British Mandate of Palestine.

When you kick people out of their land and start killing people who resist of course people are going to defend themselves.
War did not come to Israel, Israel started the war.

a young person in Australia who has never seen any of this things apart his television pictures in other side of the world.

Maybe you should spent the time with us in IDF for 1 week and see how situation is for real.

You would be frighten out of your body my friend if you spend just 1 day with what we has deal with every day.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #66 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:28pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:21pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

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No there was not.

You do not think that you would know more than me who comes from this place?

So you deny that thousands of Palestinians were killed and forced from their land?
How then did Israel come to be?
Was it by magic or something?
Because people don’t just instantly disappear and leave their homes.

They do when their Arab leaders told them to flee like rabbits on the radio broadcasts in the region at the time.
Those that fled left to escape the intense fighting.
You obviously forget that war came to Israel the very next day after it was formed in 1948 by the United Nations.
The Israeli peoples were one day old when war came to them.
And just like those other times, even in 1948 the Arab forces were very poor invaders when they tried to steal Israel away from the British Mandate of Palestine.

When you kick people out of their land and start killing people who resist of course people are going to defend themselves.
War did not come to Israel, Israel started the war.

a young person in Australia who has never seen any of this things apart his television pictures in other side of the world.

Maybe you should spent the time with us in IDF for 1 week and see how situation is for real.

You would be frighten out of your body my friend if you spend just 1 day with what we has deal with every day.

If I only knew about it from my television I would probably be supporting your position, unfortunately for Israel we know have access to both sides of the story and more and more people are beginning to wake up.
The way things are going Israel won’t have support from much longer, war crimes and human right abuses always get recognised for what they are even if it is years after the fact.

Maybe you should use your empathy and imagine yourself in the shoes of a Palestinian. Perhaps an older man or women who were around in the 40's.

The frightening situation Israel finds itself in is its own fault, but it is a lot more frightening for the Palestine anyway so quit your whining.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #67 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:43pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

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No there was not.

You do not think that you would know more than me who comes from this place?

So you deny that thousands of Palestinians were killed and forced from their land?
How then did Israel come to be?
Was it by magic or something?
Because people don’t just instantly disappear and leave their homes.

They do when their Arab leaders told them to flee like rabbits on the radio broadcasts in the region at the time.
Those that fled left to escape the intense fighting.
You obviously forget that war came to Israel the very next day after it was formed in 1948 by the United Nations.
The Israeli peoples were one day old when war came to them.
And just like those other times, even in 1948 the Arab forces were very poor invaders when they tried to steal Israel away from the British Mandate of Palestine.

When you kick people out of their land and start killing people who resist of course people are going to defend themselves.
War did not come to Israel, Israel started the war.

Egypt, Jordan, Iraq & Syrian forces all came to Israel in 1948, the day after Israel was formed.
Not the other way around.
Israel was invaded, and the invader was kicked out minus a few thousand dead.
And the Arab civilians that ran, ran from the fighting that ensued when Israel was invaded.
And like in all wars that have ever occurred on the planet, innocent people are killed.
Do yourself a favour and read a history book eh.

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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #68 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:48pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

Quote:

No there was not.

You do not think that you would know more than me who comes from this place?

So you deny that thousands of Palestinians were killed and forced from their land?
How then did Israel come to be?
Was it by magic or something?
Because people don’t just instantly disappear and leave their homes.

They do when their Arab leaders told them to flee like rabbits on the radio broadcasts in the region at the time.
Those that fled left to escape the intense fighting.
You obviously forget that war came to Israel the very next day after it was formed in 1948 by the United Nations.
The Israeli peoples were one day old when war came to them.
And just like those other times, even in 1948 the Arab forces were very poor invaders when they tried to steal Israel away from the British Mandate of Palestine.

When you kick people out of their land and start killing people who resist of course people are going to defend themselves.
War did not come to Israel, Israel started the war.

Egypt, Jordan, Iraq & Syrian forces all came to Israel in 1948, the day after Israel was formed.
Not the other way around.
Israel was invaded, and the invader was kicked out minus a few thousand dead.
And the Arab civilians that ran, ran from the fighting that ensued when Israel was invaded.
And like in all wars that have ever occurred on the planet, innocent people are killed.
Do yourself a favour and read a history book eh.

So its ok for Israel to invaid but not for Arabs to invaid Israel for invading Palestine?

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #69 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 4:30pm You has no idea what the situation in reality is like there based on your comments regard the Operation Cast lead. That comments obviously come from bias reportage like Al jazeera
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Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state
Reply #70 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 5:02pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:51pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:24pm:

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No there was not.

You do not think that you would know more than me who comes from this place?

So you deny that thousands of Palestinians were killed and forced from their land?
How then did Israel come to be?
Was it by magic or something?
Because people don’t just instantly disappear and leave their homes.

They do when their Arab leaders told them to flee like rabbits on the radio broadcasts in the region at the time.

Probably because Jewish militants were going around massacring villagers in Palestine.

The Jewish Stern Gang terrorists destroyed the village of Deir Yasin, and killed women and children.

Deir Yasin was an Arab village that had been friendly with Jews. Imagine what the Jewish terrorists would do to their enemies.

http://www.deiryassin.org/

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #71 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 5:02pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:40pm: who say they disappear?
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #72 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 5:49pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 4:30pm: You has no idea what the situation in reality is like there based on your comments regard the Operation Cast lead. That comments obviously come from bias reportage like Al jazeera Yeah I do, you have clear bias
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #73 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 6:01pm so you sit in country 1000km's away and i serve as army for 2 years and see my own eyes and experiences,, And you know more than i?
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bobbythefap1 Gold Member Offline Posts: 7026 Listen now to the rain	Re: Israel finally declared terrorist state Reply #74 - Mar 29^th, 2012 at 6:03pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 6:01pm: so you sit in country 1000km's away and i serve as army for 2 years and see my own eyes and experiences,, And you know more than i? Yes, because I have been able to look unbiasedly at both sides of the story.
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