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Reply #75 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:11pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:01pm:
so you sit in country 1000km's away and i serve as army for 2 years and see my own eyes and experiences,,

And you know more than i?



There was TV series called Kung Fu:
Master Po is blind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_(TV_series)

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Master Po: Close your eyes. What do you hear?

Young Caine: I hear the water, I hear the birds.

Po: Do you hear your own heartbeat?

Caine: No.

Po: Do you hear the grasshopper which is at your feet?

Caine Looks down & sure enough there is a grasshopper by his foot.

Caine: Old man, how is it that you hear these things?

Po: Young man, how is it that you do not?



Avram,
You do not see the real picture.
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Reply #76 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:22pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:03pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:01pm:
so you sit in country 1000km's away and i serve as army for 2 years and see my own eyes and experiences,,

And you know more than i?
Yes, because I have been able to look unbiasedly at both sides of the story.



How many Palestinians has you speak to yourself?

I think i has speak with maybe 1,000+ if you think how many is through checkpoints and who we has speak in Hebron and Gaza.

How many Orthodox Jews you has speak to?

How many settlers in West Bank?

How many Israelis in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv?

But you watches television pictures given to you....

Please.
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Reply #77 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:11pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:01pm:
so you sit in country 1000km's away and i serve as army for 2 years and see my own eyes and experiences,,

And you know more than i?



There was TV series called Kung Fu:
Master Po is blind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_(TV_series)

Quote:
Master Po: Close your eyes. What do you hear?

Young Caine: I hear the water, I hear the birds.

Po: Do you hear your own heartbeat?

Caine: No.

Po: Do you hear the grasshopper which is at your feet?

Caine Looks down & sure enough there is a grasshopper by his foot.

Caine: Old man, how is it that you hear these things?

Po: Young man, how is it that you do not?



Avram,
You do not see the real picture.



Bobby i am in the picture.
i has been myself into Gaza in Cast Lead. i has been in Hebron.
I has been in the Golan.

I has seen all my own eyes.
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Reply #78 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:25pm
 
Avram,
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Bobby i am in the picture.
i has been myself into Gaza in Cast Lead. i has been in Hebron.
I has been in the Golan.

I has seen all my own eyes.


Avram,
You don't understand what I'm saying.
Maybe you're just too young?
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Reply #79 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:32pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:25pm:
Avram,
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Bobby i am in the picture.
i has been myself into Gaza in Cast Lead. i has been in Hebron.
I has been in the Golan.

I has seen all my own eyes.


Avram,
You don't understand what I'm saying.
Maybe you're just too young?


Bobby i am not too young and not too old.
I know Palestinians, i has lived with them all my life and i has been in army when they shoot and throw the rocks.
I know them.
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Reply #80 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:34pm
 
Bobby i also think you do not know Israel and you do not know the Arabs well.

You could not think your suggestion works if this is so.
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Reply #81 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:41pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:34pm:
Bobby i also think you do not know Israel and you do not know the Arabs well.

You could not think your suggestion works if this is so.



Tell me why Caine didn't know there was a grasshopper at his foot yet a blind man did?
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Reply #82 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:44pm
 
And why do some peoples not know that GOD gave this land to the children of Abraham and Isaac.
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Reply #83 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:46pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:22pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:03pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:01pm:
so you sit in country 1000km's away and i serve as army for 2 years and see my own eyes and experiences,,

And you know more than i?
Yes, because I have been able to look unbiasedly at both sides of the story.



How many Palestinians has you speak to yourself?

I think i has speak with maybe 1,000+ if you think how many is through checkpoints and who we has speak in Hebron and Gaza.

How many Orthodox Jews you has speak to?

How many settlers in West Bank?

How many Israelis in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv?

But you watches television pictures given to you....

Please.
About as many as I have Israelis, but I have heard from thousands of them as with Israelis.
The problem is you have bias.
I have come to my conclusions based on the facts not my upbringing.

Once again no television
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Reply #84 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:46pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:44pm:
And why do some peoples not know that GOD gave this land to the children of Abraham and Isaac.

Well no one knows this
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Reply #85 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:50pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:46pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:22pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:03pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:01pm:
so you sit in country 1000km's away and i serve as army for 2 years and see my own eyes and experiences,,

And you know more than i?
Yes, because I have been able to look unbiasedly at both sides of the story.



How many Palestinians has you speak to yourself?

I think i has speak with maybe 1,000+ if you think how many is through checkpoints and who we has speak in Hebron and Gaza.

How many Orthodox Jews you has speak to?

How many settlers in West Bank?

How many Israelis in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv?

But you watches television pictures given to you....

Please.
About as many as I have Israelis, but I have heard from thousands of them as with Israelis.
The problem is you have bias.
I have come to my conclusions based on the facts not my upbringing.

Once again no television


I come to my conclusions from experiences,, personal experiences and seeing with my own eyes.
I has been in Gaza, West Bank myself.

I has been shoot at. I has need to make decisions on if to fire when can see women and children.
I has been there also to call for Israel Air Force support in Gaza. What do you know? How can you even know what is happening because with me is no news crews,
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Reply #86 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:52pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:50pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:46pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:22pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:03pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:01pm:
so you sit in country 1000km's away and i serve as army for 2 years and see my own eyes and experiences,,

And you know more than i?
Yes, because I have been able to look unbiasedly at both sides of the story.



How many Palestinians has you speak to yourself?

I think i has speak with maybe 1,000+ if you think how many is through checkpoints and who we has speak in Hebron and Gaza.

How many Orthodox Jews you has speak to?

How many settlers in West Bank?

How many Israelis in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv?

But you watches television pictures given to you....

Please.
About as many as I have Israelis, but I have heard from thousands of them as with Israelis.
The problem is you have bias.
I have come to my conclusions based on the facts not my upbringing.

Once again no television


I come to my conclusions from experiences,, personal experiences and seeing with my own eyes.
I has been in Gaza, West Bank myself.

I has been shoot at. I has need to make decisions on if to fire when can see women and children.
I has been there also to call for Israel Air Force support in Gaza. What do you know? How can you even know what is happening because with me is no news crews,

Bias
You are thinking what not why
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Reply #87 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:55pm
 
Give back land and same people who provockes Israel fires in rockets for thank you?

No thank you -- I know and can see how they show no gratitudes.
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Reply #88 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:56pm
 
Avram,
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I come to my conclusions from experiences,, personal experiences and seeing with my own eyes.
I has been in Gaza, West Bank myself.

I has been shoot at. I has need to make decisions on if to fire when can see women and children.
I has been there also to call for Israel Air Force support in Gaza. What do you know? How can you even know what is happening because with me is no news crews,



I have spent hours typing  trying to explain what's wrong
in the Middle East - & how to solve it -
all in vain.
Now - you must come up with the solution by me asking questions.
I have to make you think.
It's called the Socratic method.
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Reply #89 - Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:59pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:55pm:
Give back land and same people who provockes Israel fires in rockets for thank you?

No thank you -- I know and can see how they show no gratitudes.

They cannot be the provocateurs as they didn’t start it.
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