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Reply #15 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:19pm

... wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

What about high schools? Don't you think a high school student should be able to negotiate a road?

Yep, for sure.

However, when you're at high school the last thing on your mind is traffic.

Plus, kids today walk around with their heads down texting while they walk. I don't condone that behaviour at all, however, it's a fact of life.

If we can convince teenagers to get their thumbs off their mobile phones, and their minds off the new girl's ass, then I'd reconsider my stance on school zones.

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Reply #16 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:22pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

If we can convince teenagers to get their thumbs off their mobile phones, and their minds off the new girl's ass, then I'd reconsider my stance on school zones.

Then we should pull out all stops to make this a reality. the mobile phones thing, not the new girls ass - that's just an inescapable fact of life.

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Reply #17 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:24pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:18pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 3:43pm:

24/7 wouldn't bother me in the slightest, although 12/7 is probably more realistic: 7am to 7pm, Monday to Sunday.

Some schools have after hours child minding facilities, which stay open until about 6pm.

Also, many schools have after hours events that sometimes go well beyong 6pm (band practice, meetings, school socials, sporting events, etc.).

Plus, lots of kids play on school ovals on the weekend so speed restrictions on Saturday and Sunday are justified (even though the kids shouldn't actually be there in the first place).

As far as revenue raising goes, I'm all for it. I have no problem with my local police force being cashed up, and as long as I don't break the law I don't have to make a contribution.

Probably worth lowering the speed to 30kph too. That way the drivers will probably cut their speed down to about 50.

Yep, I agree. At the very minimum it should be during school holidays and on weekends as well. How many people who don't have school aged children are aware when the first term goes back after 6 weeks of not having to slow down?

The flashing lights are a great idea. No revenue will be raised if people do the right thing and slow down near schools.

why?

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Uncle Meat Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2434 Tasmania Gender:	Re: 24/7 school zone fines anyone? Reply #18 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:25pm ... wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:22pm: Then we should pull out all stops to make this a reality. the mobile phones thing, not the new girls ass - that's just an inescapable fact of life. Yep, I'm all for doing that.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: 24/7 school zone fines anyone? Reply #19 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:25pm Because I said so.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: 24/7 school zone fines anyone? Reply #20 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:26pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:25pm: Because I said so. but why?
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: 24/7 school zone fines anyone? Reply #21 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:29pm Because it's easier to obey a rule that is in force every day rather than 5 days a week for 40 weeks of the year.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: 24/7 school zone fines anyone? Reply #22 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:33pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:29pm: Because it's easier to obey a rule that is in force every day rather than 5 days a week for 40 weeks of the year. It's even easier to do away with weak, coddling ineffectual rules altogether.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: 24/7 school zone fines anyone? Reply #23 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:35pm It's hardly weak to protect the safety of children. We're talking about slowing down for a few seconds. Is it really that difficult?
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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: 24/7 school zone fines anyone? Reply #24 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:37pm Doesn't surprise me. NSW is already a virtual police-state, and it gets worse by the day.
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Reply #25 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:42pm

... wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

Because it's easier to obey a rule that is in force every day rather than 5 days a week for 40 weeks of the year.

It's even easier to do away with weak, coddling ineffectual rules altogether.

"Last year, 16 children were killed in pedestrian accidents across Australia, and hundreds more were seriously injured."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/school-zones-threat-to-children...

I have no problem slowing down.

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Reply #26 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:43pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:

It's hardly weak to protect the safety of children. We're talking about slowing down for a few seconds.

Is it really that difficult?

I question whether it is actually protecting them. But it seems these days, good intentions rather than good outcomes is all that is required. In itself, school zones are a minor annoyance, but taken as part of the pervasive culture of enshrining every hand-wringing suggestion from meddlesome busybodies into law, it's an annoyance I'm not prepared to endure.

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Reply #27 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:44pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

Because it's easier to obey a rule that is in force every day rather than 5 days a week for 40 weeks of the year.

If your concentration is that bad you shouldn't be driving.

Why the hell should you have to do 40Ks at 1AM on a six lane road just because you can't concentrate?

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Reply #28 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:45pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:42pm:

... wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:29pm:

Because it's easier to obey a rule that is in force every day rather than 5 days a week for 40 weeks of the year.

It's even easier to do away with weak, coddling ineffectual rules altogether.

"Last year, 16 children were killed in pedestrian accidents across Australia, and hundreds more were seriously injured."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/school-zones-threat-to-children...

I have no problem slowing down.

Even with school zones? Gosh...it's a;lmost as if....as if school zones don't do bugger all but make hovering mums feel morally superior.

Hmm...that "shocking" statistic seems to be very carefully worded. 16 children killed australia wide - doesn't say anything about where those fatalities occurred.

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Last year, 16 children were killed in pedestrian accidents across Australia, and hundreds more were seriously injured

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Frances Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3577 In a Castle in the Hills Gender:	Re: 24/7 school zone fines anyone? Reply #29 - Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:56pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 27^th, 2012 at 4:18pm: The flashing lights are a great idea. Especially if some of the street lights are out when you drive past at 2am.....
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