Uncle Meat wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 1:56pm:


*sigh*

Misusing the word "ignorance." Again.   
You do realise that just because people have a different view than you, that they're not "ignorant" don't you? 

Hmm silly question - of course you don't.

You could "enlighten" me with the "facts" I am supposedly "ignorant" of - but you've already tried haven't you? and all you could come up with was "duuuhh I doan mind slooowing down".  Not a real convincing argument meaty.  Not convincing at all. 

But I certainly do have kids.  By the sounds of their peers, they'll be the smartest, strongest kids in the school when they get there. 

... wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:



No, it's the absolute correct use of the word.  Again.

You are uninformed; lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject.

That subject being, the development of children.

And as far as trying to "enlighten" you, I already have.

Here, I'll give it to you again.  This time read it, and then you won't be so ignorant.  i.e. you will be informed on the subject of child development.

"It is important to remember that children are not just small adults. Children are developing physically and mentally and have many characteristics that make them vulnerable near traffic.

Vision: A young child's peripheral vision is about two-thirds of adult’s. Children may not have the ability to see a car or obstacle that the adult next to them sees.

Hearing: Children have acute hearing, but have difficulty localizing sound. This means that they have difficulty determining the direction from which a sound is coming. Children may be unaware that the sound of a vehicle they hear is moving towards them."

http://www.preventioninstitute.sk.ca/child-injury-prevention/bike-wheel-safety/c...

A child's eyesight, hearing and mental capability are not as developed as an adult's.  Thus, more care needs to be taken when driving by schools.  Anyone with children would know this.

"Mental Development: Many characteristics of children increase their risk of injury when they are near traffic.

•Children lack a sense of danger.
•Children may be impulsive, easily distracted and impatient.
•Children are not good at judging the speed and distance of approaching vehicles.
•A child may not have the ability to process all the pieces of information necessary to make safe decisions while near traffic, despite being taught correct safety practices.
•Older children may participate in more risk-taking behaviours."

So, take note of the quotes I've posted and try to learn something.  Once you've done that, you won't be so ignorant.

Take particular notice of this one:

"A child may not have the ability to process all the pieces of information necessary to make safe decisions while near traffic, despite being taught correct safety practices."


Until then, your ignorance is astounding (as is your ignorance of the correct use of the word 'ignorance').

My 3 year old daughter knows to stop and look both ways before crossing a road.  3 years old.  yep - Three.  That wouldn't have been unusual 20 years ago, but now it is, thanks to hovering mums and herbly dads. (and uncles)  Which isnt to say I let her do it alone, but in 3 years time, yeah i reckon she might have da mad skillz required to *gasp* cross a road - you know, like everyone did a generation ago?


You keep relying on the "peripheral vision" thing as though it's a telling blow - I don't know about you, but I actually turn my head. 

... wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 5:37pm:



Oh dear   

"Until the age of 10 or so, children need active adult supervision to help them navigate cars, roads and car parks safely.
Even children who seem to know all the road safety rules won’t necessarily remember to follow them."

"Although children may think they can handle crossing a road by themselves, remember that children:

•are easily distracted and focus on only one aspect of what is happening
•are smaller and harder for drivers to see
•are less predictable than other pedestrians
•cannot accurately judge the speed and distance of moving vehicles
•cannot accurately predict the direction sounds are coming from
•are unable to cope with sudden changes in traffic conditions
•do not understand abstract ideas - such as road safety
•are unable to identify safe places to cross the road
•tend to act inconsistently in and around traffic

All of these factors support that children below the age of 10 years do not have the capability or judgement to handle many pedestrian situations. Children need to be accompanied and closely supervised by a parent or adult carer to keep them safer."

http://www.kidsafensw.org/roadsafety/pedestrian_safety.htm

http://raisingchildren.net.au/articles/pedestrian_safety.html


There you go: no mention of peripheral vision.

No matter how bright your kid is or how well you teach them about traffic safety, they are still at much more risk than an adult.

... wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 6:09pm:



Organisations guided by the advice of medical experts.

As opposed to a parent misguided by ignorance.

Frances wrote on Mar 29^th, 2012 at 5:01pm:


Bob would have a comcar with a driver.

How do these poor kids cope 50m up the road from the school where the school zone has ended?

So how many kids were killed or injured by cars directly outside of a school there must be some evidence of this being a massive problem or was it just leftists thinking they could impose a knee jerk overreaction on everyone based on fear instead of facts.

The danger these kids face when walking outside of a school zone must be horrendous.

Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:


Interesting theory.

Anything to support the claim of "leftists thinking they could impose a knee jerk overreaction on everyone"?

... wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:


Correct.

... wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:


I believe you.

... wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:


Based on ... ?

... wrote on Mar 30^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:


There's no weakness involved.