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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #480 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 5:15pm
 
you have been defeated with your own lies ..boo hoo ,

FDA admits in court case that vaccines still contain mercury

http://www.naturalnews.com/035432_vaccines_mercury_court_case.html
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/02/fda-admits-in-court-case-that-vaccin...


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It is a common myth today that the vaccines administered to children no longer contain the toxic additive thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative linked to causing permanent neurological damage. But a recent federal case involving the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has revealed that, contrary to this widely-held belief, thimerosal is actually still present in many batch vaccines, including in the annual influenza vaccine that is now administered to children as young as six months old.


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Mercury-Based Vaccine Preservative Lives On

http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/03/23/44979.htm

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The Food and Drug Administration is not liable for approving a mercury-based vaccine preservative because more expensive, mercury-free vaccines are available upon request, a federal judge ruled.
     Thimerosal is a mercury-based compound that is FDA-approved as a vaccine preservative. Organizations such as the Coalition for Mercury-Free Drugs, however, have expressed concern about the preservative.


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Mercury is the second most toxic element on earth to plutonium. Toxicity of mercury has been linked to many different diseases, including autism, learning disabilities, Alzheimer’s, multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia, lupus, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, depression, and bipolar disorder. The amount of mercury found in one mercury thermometer is enough to pollute a small lake.

Health effects of mercury toxicity have been a concern because of the potential for it to act as a poison. Toxic doses of mercury can cause developmental effects in the fetus, as well as affecting the kidney and the nervous system in children and adults. Mercury exists in a number of different chemical forms, each one consisting of different levels of toxicity. The forms of mercury can also be converted from one to another in the environment and in the body, so symptoms caused by mercury poisoning depends on the precise chemical forms involved.

Mercury can be toxic when inhaled, eaten, or when placed on the skin. Low concentrations of mercury may appear to have no effect but signs of toxicity can develop later or become more noticeable with continued exposure. When toxicity in humans takes place loss of feeling or a burning sensation in arms and legs, psychological effects, loss of memory, loss of vision, loss of hearing, paralysis, congenital malformations, kidney toxicity, and death may occur. Prenatal toxicity can result in a child with normal appearance at birth but who later exhibits a developmental delay in the ability to walk and/or talk. Because of the long latent period for observable effects, the need for treatment may be recognized too late.

Health effects vary according to the amount of mercury exposure is taken into the body. The health risks of mercury at low levels of exposure remain uncertain, but this continues to be a highly debatable topic with ongoing scientific investigation. Fetuses, infants and small children appear to be particularly sensitive to mercury because their brains are still developing. Vaccines with mercury have been considered to contribute to autism, learning disabilities, Alzheimer’s Disease, and other neurological conditions, and an FDA review conducted in 1998 determined that, at the time, children who received the full complement of childhood vaccines were potentially exposed to levels of mercury that were sometimes 30 to 50 times the acceptable levels established by the EPA.

High-level exposures to mercury can cause serious effects or even be lethal. Several historical examples of epidemic mercury poisonings in other parts of the world provide classic examples of investigative epidemiology and toxicology and serve to highlight the reasons why regulators are concerned about mercury. Effects on the brain and nervous system are frequently seen with high-level exposures to mercury and can be quite severe.
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #481 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 5:42pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 5:15pm:
you have been defeated with your own lies ..boo hoo ,


Hahahaha

YOu bitch and moan demanding answers to your questions, you get them, they debunk your lies and you then pretend it never happened...

Wow, that's a new low even for your pathetic ass...

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So, you're just going to keep trying to ignore what happened, not apologise for lying and not correct the record?
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #482 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:10pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 4:48pm:
As yet there are no large-scale vaccinated versus truly unvaccinated studies of the sort needed prove that vaccines do or do not cause autism.


Exactly.

You've just debunked all your bullshit.




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https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/04/exas-bill-would-increase-vaccine-safety-reje...

Texas Bill Would Increase Vaccine Safety, Reject Federal Narrative



April 10, 2019 at 06:00 AM

By Davis Taylor
TheTenthCommandmentCenter.com

AUSTIN, Texas (April 8, 2019) – A bill introduced in the Texas Senate would prohibit vaccines from being administered unless certain safety criteria are met. Passage of the bill would significantly strengthen vaccine safety testing requirements and push back against any future federal vaccine mandates.

Sen. Bob Hall (R) introduced Senate Bill 2350 (SB2350) on March 8. The legislation would only permit a health care provider to administer a vaccine if all of the following criteria are met.

The study the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) relied upon for approval of the vaccine evaluated the vaccine against a placebo control group or against another vaccine or substance that the FDA approved based upon a placebo-controlled study;
The study relied upon by the FCA for approval of the vaccine evaluated the safety of the vaccine for a sufficient time to identify potential autoimmune, neurological, or chronic health conditions that may arise on or after a year from the vaccine being administered;
The vaccine has been evaluated for its potential to cause cancer, mutate genes, affect fertility, cause infertility and cause autism spectrum disorder;
The Texas Department of State Health Service has posted on its website disclosure of any known injuries or diseases caused by the vaccine and the rate at which the injuries or diseases have occurred; and
The chemical, pharmacological, therapeutic, and adverse effects of the vaccine and the rate of injury of the vaccine when administered with other vaccines, have been studied and verified.
Effect on Federal Policy

After recent comments by former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb in February of 2019 just prior to his resignation, some believe that federal vaccine mandates are imminent.  According to CNN, Gottlieb said, “[I]f states don’t require more schoolchildren to get vaccinated, the federal government might have to step in.” Gottlieb also reportedly said, “You could mandate certain rules about what is and isn’t permissible when it comes to allowing people to have exemptions.” [1] As discussed below, current vaccine safety testing requirements are far less stringent than most would assume.  Passage of SB 2350 would bolster these requirements and make enforcement of any federal vaccine mandates more difficult.

Number of Recommended Vaccines Steadily Rise Since Removal of Liability

Vaccine mandates are generally based upon the vaccine schedules recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Because vaccines pose a risk of injury or death, liability is associated with them. Many Americans are unaware that the pharmaceutical industry is shielded from liability for harm caused by most vaccines. This unique legal protection was put into place as a result of legislation passed in 1986, after extensive lobbying by the pharmaceutical industry. Manufacturers of other products don’t enjoy this freedom from liability. Due to lack of liability, vaccines are the pharmaceutical industry’s most lucrative product.

The 1986 law also created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP), which is essentially a special system outside of the normal litigation process to hear claims of harm caused by vaccines. Any compensation granted by the NVICP is paid by the public, through a surcharge on vaccines, and not by vaccine manufacturers. To date, over four billion dollars has been paid under this system to compensate for harm caused by vaccines. [2]

Further, although discovery is a right afforded to litigants in most other legal forums, discovery is not permitted in the NVICP process. This protects vaccine manufacturers from having to search for, and produce, relevant information, including damaging information. In cases involving prescription medication, which are heard in other legal forums, information unfavorable to the pharmaceutical industry has come to light through discovery, such as the damaging e-mails which were required to be produced in the Vioxx litigation. [3]  Read more here.
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #483 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:12pm
 
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/vaccine-bill-create-safety-necessary/

Revolutionary Bill to Reject Federal Gov’t, Prohibit Vaccines Until Proven Safe AND Necessary


A newly introduced bill would reject the federal narrative on vaccines and and prohibit their administration until rigorous safety criteria are met.

By The Free Thought Project -  April 9, 2019


...

AUSTIN, Texas (TAC) – A bill introduced in the Texas Senate would prohibit vaccines from being administered unless certain safety criteria are met. Passage of the bill would significantly strengthen vaccine safety testing requirements and push back against any future federal vaccine mandates.

Sen. Bob Hall (R) introduced Senate Bill 2350 (SB2350) on March 8. The legislation would only permit a health care provider to administer a vaccine if all of the following criteria are met.

The study the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) relied upon for approval of the vaccine evaluated the vaccine against a placebo control group or against another vaccine or substance that the FDA approved based upon a placebo-controlled study;
The study relied upon by the FCA for approval of the vaccine evaluated the safety of the vaccine for a sufficient time to identify potential autoimmune, neurological, or chronic health conditions that may arise on or after a year from the vaccine being administered;
The vaccine has been evaluated for its potential to cause cancer, mutate genes, affect fertility, cause infertility and cause autism spectrum disorder;
The Texas Department of State Health Service has posted on its website disclosure of any known injuries or diseases caused by the vaccine and the rate at which the injuries or diseases have occurred; and
The chemical, pharmacological, therapeutic, and adverse effects of the vaccine and the rate of injury of the vaccine when administered with other vaccines, have been studied and verified.
Effect on Federal Policy

After recent comments by former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb in February of 2019 just prior to his resignation, some believe that federal vaccine mandates are imminent.  According to CNN, Gottlieb said, “[I]f states don’t require more schoolchildren to get vaccinated, the federal government might have to step in.” Gottlieb also reportedly said, “You could mandate certain rules about what is and isn’t permissible when it comes to allowing people to have exemptions.” [1] As discussed below, current vaccine safety testing requirements are far less stringent than most would assume.  Passage of SB 2350 would bolster these requirements and make enforcement of any federal vaccine mandates more difficult.

Number of Recommended Vaccines Steadily Rise Since Removal of Liability

Vaccine mandates are generally based upon the vaccine schedules recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Because vaccines pose a risk of injury or death, liability is associated with them. Many Americans are unaware that the pharmaceutical industry is shielded from liability for harm caused by most vaccines. This unique legal protection was put into place as a result of legislation passed in 1986, after extensive lobbying by the pharmaceutical industry. Manufacturers of other products don’t enjoy this freedom from liability. Due to lack of liability, vaccines are the pharmaceutical industry’s most lucrative product.

The 1986 law also created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP), which is essentially a special system outside of the normal litigation process to hear claims of harm caused by vaccines. Any compensation granted by the NVICP is paid by the public, through a surcharge on vaccines, and not by vaccine manufacturers. To date, over four billion dollars has been paid under this system to compensate for harm caused by vaccines. [2]

Further, although discovery is a right afforded to litigants in most other legal forums, discovery is not permitted in the NVICP process. This protects vaccine manufacturers from having to search for, and produce, relevant information, including damaging information. In cases involving prescription medication, which are heard in other legal forums, information unfavorable to the pharmaceutical industry has come to light through discovery, such as the damaging e-mails which were required to be produced in the Vioxx litigation. [3]

In the absence of pharmaceutical industry liability for most vaccines, the number of vaccines recommended by the industry and the CDC is steadily rising. For example, in 1983, the CDC recommended that children receive 23 doses of seven vaccines. By 2017, the number of vaccines it was recommending rose to 69 doses of 16 vaccines starting on the day of birth to age 18, with 50 doses of 14 vaccines given before age 6. [4] Since 2002, a CDC adult vaccine schedule has also existed. [5] Like with the childhood schedule, the number of recommended vaccines and doses on the adult schedule has continued to rise. Furthermore, there are hundreds of new vaccines in the developmental process and the number of CDC recommended vaccines is expected to continue to rise.

Inadequate Vaccine Safety Testing

Lack of adequate safety testing is a common concern of opponents of mandatory vaccines and SB 2350 addresses this critical issue.
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #484 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:12pm
 
Many Americans believe that vaccines undergo the same safety testing as drugs prior to their approval. However, this is incorrect. In fact, vaccines and drugs are subject to different rules because the FDA has chosen to classify vaccines as “biologics” rather than “drugs.” Drugs are required to undergo multi-year, double-blind inert placebo studies, widely known as the gold standard of safety science, prior to licensing. Vaccines, on the other hand, are not required to undergo inert placebo-controlled studies for approval. [6] Furthermore, unlike the lengthy periods required for drug safety studies, vaccine safety studies monitor for adverse reactions for very short periods of time, often of fourteen days or less. [7] Additionally, although children frequently receive multiple vaccines at the same time in accordance with the CDC’s recommended schedule, vaccine manufacturers are not required to test the safety of the vaccines in these combinations. [8]

In fact, there is a multitude of reasons, in addition to inadequate safety testing, to question the mandating of vaccines. For example, the ingredients in them are often cited as a source of concern. The ingredients in each type of vaccine differ but, generally, vaccines contain a myriad of toxic or concerning substances such as aluminum, antibiotics, formaldehyde, Polysorbate 80, bovine extract, egg protein, monosodium glutamate (MSG), squalene, and aborted human fetal tissue. [9], [10]. Additionally, several recently published books set forth scientific information which raises concerns about vaccines, including the book Miller’s Review of Critical Vaccine Studies: 400 Important Scientific Papers Summarized for Parents and Researchers by Neil Z. Miller, which contains over 400 peer-reviewed scientific studies. [11] In another book, Vaccines – A Reappraisal, Dr. Richard Moskowitz, a family physician with over fifty years of experience, discusses a wide range of troubling information concerning vaccines, such as:  epidemiological research which indicates that vaccines may interfere with the normal development of a healthy immune system; information concerning the role that vaccines can play in causing infectious disease outbreaks; and evidence of the surprisingly low effectiveness levels of many vaccines. [12] J.B. Handley’s book How to End the Autism Epidemic also contains a wealth of information concerning potential harm caused by vaccines, particularly focusing on aluminum, a toxic metal used as an adjuvant in many vaccines, and on evidence of a causal link between vaccines and autism. [13] As these works clearly indicate, the science is not settled with regard to whether vaccines are safe or necessary.

State Action Needed

Federal regulation becomes ineffective when states enact contradictory policies. If multiple states ban mandatory vaccinations or pass laws which conflict with the CDC’s recommended schedules, it will become extremely difficult for the federal government to enforce future federal mandates. Such state laws will also undermine the federal narrative and make it harder for the feds to generate support for nationwide mandatory vaccine policies. By passing SB 2350, Texas has the opportunity to lead on this important issue and to become the potential standard bearer for resisting federal vaccine policy at the state level.

NOTES

[1] Cohen, Elizabeth and Bonifeld, John, “FDA chief: Federal government might step in if states don’t change lax vaccine laws.”  CNN.com. Cable News Network. Web. 20 Feb 2019, https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/20/health/vaccine-exemptions-fda-gottlieb/index.html.  Accessed 7 April 2019.

[2] Children’s Health Defense. “$4 Billion and Growing:  U.S. Payouts for Vaccine Injury and Deaths Keep Climbing.” www.ChildrensHealthDefense.org. Web. 19 Nov. 2018,   https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/4-billion-and-growing-u-s-payouts-for-va
ccine-injuries-and-deaths-keep-climbing/. Accessed 7 April 2019.

[3] Berensen, Alex, “Jury Finds Merck Liable in Vioxx Death and Awards $253 Million.”  nytimes.com. Web. 19 Aug. 2005, https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/19/business/jury-finds-merck-liable-in-vioxx-death-and-awards-253-million.html. Accessed 7 April 2019.

[4] National Vaccine Information Center. “A Guide to Reforming Vaccine Policy and Law.” www.nvic.org. Web. 26 Sept. 2018, https://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements/Reforming-Vaccine-Policy—Law-Guide.aspx. Accessed 7 April 2019.

[5] Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Immunization Schedules, Table 1. Recommended Adult Immunization Schedule for ages 19 years or older, United States, 2019. Web. 5 Feb. 2019, https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/adult.html. Accessed 7 April 2019.
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #485 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 12:15am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 5:15pm:
you have been defeated with your own lies ..boo hoo ,

FDA admits in court case that vaccines still contain mercury

http://www.naturalnews.com/035432_vaccines_mercury_court_case.html
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/02/fda-admits-in-court-case-that-vaccin...


Since you're copy and pasting literally the very first post in this thread to bury the information you're running away from, let me remind you of what it is you're hiding from,

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 6:48am:
Of course .. yes

You said 7 so that was a lie .. boo hoo malfeasance for you ..

Your intel is lacking


I made it clear that this number was the diseases they were vaccinated against as they'd had a vaccine for them, which is what you asked at first.  Then you repeatedly ignored my questions and refused to answer if you meant vaccine or injections.

I've since answered your question about individual injections here,

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 6:11am:
Time for some cold hard facts.

Here is the information about the imunisation schedule for Queensland, our state, for 2018.

These aren't the diseases that children are protected against, but the individual injections, which appears to be the information you're asking about.

I'm sorry that it's not in the form of a meme, you'll have to actually read it.

New Baby (1)
Hepatitis B

Count: 1

6 Weeks (3)
Combined Vaccination (diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), hepatitis B, haemophilus influenzae type B (Hib) and polio)
Rotavirus
Pneumococcal

Count: 4

6 Months (2)
Pneumococcal
Combination vaccination

Count: 6

12 Months (2)
Hib and Meningococcal C
MMR (measles, mumps and rubella)

Count: 8

18 Months (3)
MMR
Varicella (chicken pox)
Diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis (whooping cough)

Count: 11

Then there’s a gap, until at four years old they receive a combination injection which protects against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough) and polio. If they haven’t already received two doses of MMR containing vaccine, they will also need to receive this vaccine at four years old (but they have in the schedule above), but none of that matters because you want until their 2 years old.

So even if you include the shots given to Mum during pregnancy (Influenza, Whooping cough), not the bub itself, that's only 13, 11 if you count the ones the baby physically gets.

Your meme I count at least 22, so, wrong very.  Or at least out of date, but you're a proven liar so I will assume you knew it was false but posted it anyway.


And if you extend that out to to be 15 like your latest image says contains 81 (based on the schedule in 2009), let's see if that is true.

So we're already up to 11.

4 Years (1)
Combination vaccination

Count: 12

12 Years (3)
Human Papillomavirus (x2, six months apart)
Combination vaccination

Count: 15

15 years (1)
Meningococcal ACWY

Count: 16.

You're claiming 81 by 6 years old, but it's 16.  Why the lies light?

If your case is so rock solid, why do you need to lie?

And then the claims of all the side effects, where is the proof?

We already know that the first 3 listed side effects are simply untrue.  Vaccinations do not cause Autism, Juvenile Diabetes or Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis.

It's just another case of the antivaxx cult cherry-picking evidence to support their priori conclusions while they ignore the utter lack of plausibility supporting any link between vaccines and these conditions.

You accuse others of lying light when you're the biggest, the undisputed champion, of lies and fake news.

You've been exposed again.

No wonder you've been so obstructionist throughout this exchange because you know a simple fact check would expose you as the fraud you are, so you wouldn't tell us the information you actually wanted as a last ditch effort to avoid scrutiny.  You failed.

And for what?  How many of these diseases are you ok with children getting?  Because that's what your lies are advocating for, these and other children having no protection against these devastating and often life-threatening diseases.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

"should"

I await my apology for your abuse in this thread and eagerly await you posting a correction to the lies you've told.


My intel is not lacking, I've cleared the fog of your obstructionist behaviour and exposed your lies again.

Ignore it all you like, but it's there for all to see.
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #486 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 3:09am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 19th, 2019 at 12:15am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 5:15pm:
you have been defeated with your own lies ..boo hoo ,

FDA admits in court case that vaccines still contain mercury

http://www.naturalnews.com/035432_vaccines_mercury_court_case.html
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/04/02/fda-admits-in-court-case-that-vaccin...


Since you're copy and pasting literally the very first post in this thread to bury the information you're running away from, let me remind you of what it is you're hiding from,

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 6:48am:
Of course .. yes

You said 7 so that was a lie .. boo hoo malfeasance for you ..

Your intel is lacking


I made it clear that this number was the diseases they were vaccinated against as they'd had a vaccine for them, which is what you asked at first.  Then you repeatedly ignored my questions and refused to answer if you meant vaccine or injections.

I've since answered your question about individual injections here,

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 6:11am:
Time for some cold hard facts.

Here is the information about the imunisation schedule for Queensland, our state, for 2018.

These aren't the diseases that children are protected against, but the individual injections, which appears to be the information you're asking about.

I'm sorry that it's not in the form of a meme, you'll have to actually read it.

New Baby (1)
Hepatitis B

Count: 1

6 Weeks (3)
Combined Vaccination (diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), hepatitis B, haemophilus influenzae type B (Hib) and polio)
Rotavirus
Pneumococcal

Count: 4

6 Months (2)
Pneumococcal
Combination vaccination

Count: 6

12 Months (2)
Hib and Meningococcal C
MMR (measles, mumps and rubella)

Count: 8

18 Months (3)
MMR
Varicella (chicken pox)
Diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis (whooping cough)

Count: 11

Then there’s a gap, until at four years old they receive a combination injection which protects against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough) and polio. If they haven’t already received two doses of MMR containing vaccine, they will also need to receive this vaccine at four years old (but they have in the schedule above), but none of that matters because you want until their 2 years old.

So even if you include the shots given to Mum during pregnancy (Influenza, Whooping cough), not the bub itself, that's only 13, 11 if you count the ones the baby physically gets.

Your meme I count at least 22, so, wrong very.  Or at least out of date, but you're a proven liar so I will assume you knew it was false but posted it anyway.


And if you extend that out to to be 15 like your latest image says contains 81 (based on the schedule in 2009), let's see if that is true.

So we're already up to 11.

4 Years (1)
Combination vaccination

Count: 12

12 Years (3)
Human Papillomavirus (x2, six months apart)
Combination vaccination

Count: 15

15 years (1)
Meningococcal ACWY

Count: 16.

You're claiming 81 by 6 years old, but it's 16.  Why the lies light?

If your case is so rock solid, why do you need to lie?

And then the claims of all the side effects, where is the proof?

We already know that the first 3 listed side effects are simply untrue.  Vaccinations do not cause Autism, Juvenile Diabetes or Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis.

It's just another case of the antivaxx cult cherry-picking evidence to support their priori conclusions while they ignore the utter lack of plausibility supporting any link between vaccines and these conditions.

You accuse others of lying light when you're the biggest, the undisputed champion, of lies and fake news.

You've been exposed again.

No wonder you've been so obstructionist throughout this exchange because you know a simple fact check would expose you as the fraud you are, so you wouldn't tell us the information you actually wanted as a last ditch effort to avoid scrutiny.  You failed.

And for what?  How many of these diseases are you ok with children getting?  Because that's what your lies are advocating for, these and other children having no protection against these devastating and often life-threatening diseases.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

"should"

I await my apology for your abuse in this thread and eagerly await you posting a correction to the lies you've told.


My intel is not lacking, I've cleared the fog of your obstructionist behaviour and exposed your lies again.

Ignore it all you like, but it's there for all to see.


you said 7 vaccines .. you lied

boo hoo for you , move on or your spam will be ignored

namaste
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #487 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 3:11am
 
if any attempt to derail this thread

you will simply be ignored ..or trolled ,

I haven't decided yet ..


https://thefreethoughtproject.com/vaccine-bill-create-safety-necessary/

Revolutionary Bill to Reject Federal Gov’t, Prohibit Vaccines Until Proven Safe AND Necessary


A newly introduced bill would reject the federal narrative on vaccines and and prohibit their administration until rigorous safety criteria are met.

By The Free Thought Project -  April 9, 2019


...

AUSTIN, Texas (TAC) – A bill introduced in the Texas Senate would prohibit vaccines from being administered unless certain safety criteria are met. Passage of the bill would significantly strengthen vaccine safety testing requirements and push back against any future federal vaccine mandates.

Sen. Bob Hall (R) introduced Senate Bill 2350 (SB2350) on March 8. The legislation would only permit a health care provider to administer a vaccine if all of the following criteria are met.

The study the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) relied upon for approval of the vaccine evaluated the vaccine against a placebo control group or against another vaccine or substance that the FDA approved based upon a placebo-controlled study;
The study relied upon by the FCA for approval of the vaccine evaluated the safety of the vaccine for a sufficient time to identify potential autoimmune, neurological, or chronic health conditions that may arise on or after a year from the vaccine being administered;
The vaccine has been evaluated for its potential to cause cancer, mutate genes, affect fertility, cause infertility and cause autism spectrum disorder;
The Texas Department of State Health Service has posted on its website disclosure of any known injuries or diseases caused by the vaccine and the rate at which the injuries or diseases have occurred; and
The chemical, pharmacological, therapeutic, and adverse effects of the vaccine and the rate of injury of the vaccine when administered with other vaccines, have been studied and verified.
Effect on Federal Policy

After recent comments by former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb in February of 2019 just prior to his resignation, some believe that federal vaccine mandates are imminent.  According to CNN, Gottlieb said, “[I]f states don’t require more schoolchildren to get vaccinated, the federal government might have to step in.” Gottlieb also reportedly said, “You could mandate certain rules about what is and isn’t permissible when it comes to allowing people to have exemptions.” [1] As discussed below, current vaccine safety testing requirements are far less stringent than most would assume.  Passage of SB 2350 would bolster these requirements and make enforcement of any federal vaccine mandates more difficult.

Number of Recommended Vaccines Steadily Rise Since Removal of Liability

Vaccine mandates are generally based upon the vaccine schedules recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Because vaccines pose a risk of injury or death, liability is associated with them. Many Americans are unaware that the pharmaceutical industry is shielded from liability for harm caused by most vaccines. This unique legal protection was put into place as a result of legislation passed in 1986, after extensive lobbying by the pharmaceutical industry. Manufacturers of other products don’t enjoy this freedom from liability. Due to lack of liability, vaccines are the pharmaceutical industry’s most lucrative product.

The 1986 law also created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP), which is essentially a special system outside of the normal litigation process to hear claims of harm caused by vaccines. Any compensation granted by the NVICP is paid by the public, through a surcharge on vaccines, and not by vaccine manufacturers. To date, over four billion dollars has been paid under this system to compensate for harm caused by vaccines. [2]

Further, although discovery is a right afforded to litigants in most other legal forums, discovery is not permitted in the NVICP process. This protects vaccine manufacturers from having to search for, and produce, relevant information, including damaging information. In cases involving prescription medication, which are heard in other legal forums, information unfavorable to the pharmaceutical industry has come to light through discovery, such as the damaging e-mails which were required to be produced in the Vioxx litigation. [3]

In the absence of pharmaceutical industry liability for most vaccines, the number of vaccines recommended by the industry and the CDC is steadily rising. For example, in 1983, the CDC recommended that children receive 23 doses of seven vaccines. By 2017, the number of vaccines it was recommending rose to 69 doses of 16 vaccines starting on the day of birth to age 18, with 50 doses of 14 vaccines given before age 6. [4] Since 2002, a CDC adult vaccine schedule has also existed. [5] Like with the childhood schedule, the number of recommended vaccines and doses on the adult schedule has continued to rise. Furthermore, there are hundreds of new vaccines in the developmental process and the number of CDC recommended vaccines is expected to continue to rise.

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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #488 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 8:45am
 
Light, this all started because of your post here,

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 13th, 2019 at 2:57pm:


Image:
...

This shows by my count, 22 injections by age 2.  You've not bothered to list what they are or provide any facts to back that up, instead relying on a highly inaccurate yet highly emotive image to make a point. 

When I questioned that, rather than you proving your claim, you wanted me to debunk it, demanding I tell you how many "vaccines" a child gets by age 2.  I gave you the answer, which is 7.

But because you're either spreading more lies or are simply uneducated enough to know the definition of a vaccine and how it is used within the medical profession, you claimed I was lying with the answer of 7,

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 19th, 2019 at 3:09am:
you said 7 vaccines .. you lied

boo hoo for you , move on or your spam will be ignored


No, a vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins.

The MMR vaccine, which includes multiple individual injections/boosters etc, is considered a single vaccine because it provides an active immunity to a particular set of disease.

This is why we went down the rabbit hold of me asking you if you meant injections or vaccines but you refused to answer.

You refused to answer, so you could paint the factually accurate information I provided you as a lie.

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:40am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:35am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:32am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:28am:
Whats the number of vaccines applied to a child by the time they are 2 years old ?

Its a pretty simple question .. how many vaccines ?


Do you mean specific injection, or are you wanting to know what diseases these children are protected against?

Many of these are a single injection that cover a range of diseases.

And if I answer your question, will you mine?


How many vaccines is a child supposed to have by age 2 ?

Simple question .

Why are vaxxers so shy ??

Something to hide ??


7:

Hep B
Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio
Pneumococcal
Rotavirus
Meningococcal
Measles, Mumps, Rubella
Hep A

So which of these diseases do you want children to get?


it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 10:27am:
7 ?

Why do vaxxers lie so much ??

Go again and be honest this time .. actually ,

We should ask the top vaxxer pastaman actually

Seeings he gets paid by the pharmaceutical companies to teach the vaxxer myth ..

So go ahead and be honest pastaman ..

Tell us how many vaccines are children required to have by age 2 circa vaxxer requirements ..


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 10:56am:
So, what vaccines are they meant to get?

The answer is,

Hep B
Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio
Pneumococcal
Rotavirus
Meningococcal
Measles, Mumps, Rubella
Hep A

Taken from the National Immunisation Program Schedule From 1 April 2019

If you want to know something different, then ask for it.  I'm not a mind reader...


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:11pm:
Light, can you define what you mean by vaccine?

Why are you being so obstructionist when it's information you're asking for..?

How many times do we have to ask?

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 12:18pm:
Are you wanting to know how many individual needles/injections?

What point are you trying to make?


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 17th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 17th, 2019 at 7:54pm:


So you're counting every injection as a "vaccine"?

This was the first question I asked you pages and days ago...

We finally get the answer...

Even though you should prove your own claim, I'll find an answer the next time I'm at a computer and we'll see how wrong you are.


Fast forward to many pages of your spam later and I was finally able to decipher your spam in that you wanted the total number of injections.

As shown here,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1333413032/471#471

The total number of injections by age 2 is 11,

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 6:11am:
So even if you include the shots given to Mum during pregnancy (Influenza, Whooping cough), not the bub itself, that's only 13, 11 if you count the ones the baby physically gets.

Your meme I count at least 22, so, wrong very.  Or at least out of date, but you're a proven liar so I will assume you knew it was false but posted it anyway.


So will you correct the record and apologise for your lies?
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #489 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 8:57am
 
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https://thefreethoughtproject.com/vaccine-bill-create-safety-necessary/

Revolutionary Bill to Reject Federal Gov’t, Prohibit Vaccines Until Proven Safe AND Necessary


A newly introduced bill would reject the federal narrative on vaccines and and prohibit their administration until rigorous safety criteria are met.

By The Free Thought Project -  April 9, 2019


...

AUSTIN, Texas (TAC) – A bill introduced in the Texas Senate would prohibit vaccines from being administered unless certain safety criteria are met. Passage of the bill would significantly strengthen vaccine safety testing requirements and push back against any future federal vaccine mandates.

Sen. Bob Hall (R) introduced Senate Bill 2350 (SB2350) on March 8. The legislation would only permit a health care provider to administer a vaccine if all of the following criteria are met.

The study the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) relied upon for approval of the vaccine evaluated the vaccine against a placebo control group or against another vaccine or substance that the FDA approved based upon a placebo-controlled study;
The study relied upon by the FCA for approval of the vaccine evaluated the safety of the vaccine for a sufficient time to identify potential autoimmune, neurological, or chronic health conditions that may arise on or after a year from the vaccine being administered;
The vaccine has been evaluated for its potential to cause cancer, mutate genes, affect fertility, cause infertility and cause autism spectrum disorder;
The Texas Department of State Health Service has posted on its website disclosure of any known injuries or diseases caused by the vaccine and the rate at which the injuries or diseases have occurred; and
The chemical, pharmacological, therapeutic, and adverse effects of the vaccine and the rate of injury of the vaccine when administered with other vaccines, have been studied and verified.
Effect on Federal Policy

After recent comments by former FDA Commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb in February of 2019 just prior to his resignation, some believe that federal vaccine mandates are imminent.  According to CNN, Gottlieb said, “[I]f states don’t require more schoolchildren to get vaccinated, the federal government might have to step in.” Gottlieb also reportedly said, “You could mandate certain rules about what is and isn’t permissible when it comes to allowing people to have exemptions.” [1] As discussed below, current vaccine safety testing requirements are far less stringent than most would assume.  Passage of SB 2350 would bolster these requirements and make enforcement of any federal vaccine mandates more difficult.

Number of Recommended Vaccines Steadily Rise Since Removal of Liability

Vaccine mandates are generally based upon the vaccine schedules recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Because vaccines pose a risk of injury or death, liability is associated with them. Many Americans are unaware that the pharmaceutical industry is shielded from liability for harm caused by most vaccines. This unique legal protection was put into place as a result of legislation passed in 1986, after extensive lobbying by the pharmaceutical industry. Manufacturers of other products don’t enjoy this freedom from liability. Due to lack of liability, vaccines are the pharmaceutical industry’s most lucrative product.

The 1986 law also created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP), which is essentially a special system outside of the normal litigation process to hear claims of harm caused by vaccines. Any compensation granted by the NVICP is paid by the public, through a surcharge on vaccines, and not by vaccine manufacturers. To date, over four billion dollars has been paid under this system to compensate for harm caused by vaccines. [2]

Further, although discovery is a right afforded to litigants in most other legal forums, discovery is not permitted in the NVICP process. This protects vaccine manufacturers from having to search for, and produce, relevant information, including damaging information. In cases involving prescription medication, which are heard in other legal forums, information unfavorable to the pharmaceutical industry has come to light through discovery, such as the damaging e-mails which were required to be produced in the Vioxx litigation. [3]

In the absence of pharmaceutical industry liability for most vaccines, the number of vaccines recommended by the industry and the CDC is steadily rising. For example, in 1983, the CDC recommended that children receive 23 doses of seven vaccines. By 2017, the number of vaccines it was recommending rose to 69 doses of 16 vaccines starting on the day of birth to age 18, with 50 doses of 14 vaccines given before age 6. [4] Since 2002, a CDC adult vaccine schedule has also existed. [5] Like with the childhood schedule, the number of recommended vaccines and doses on the adult schedule has continued to rise. Furthermore, there are hundreds of new vaccines in the developmental process and the number of CDC recommended vaccines is expected to continue to rise.

Inadequate Vaccine Safety Testing

Lack of adequate safety testing is a common concern of opponents of mandatory vaccines and SB 2350
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #490 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 9:08am
 
Light, this all started because of your post here,

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 13th, 2019 at 2:57pm:


Image:
...

This shows by my count, 22 injections by age 2.  You've not bothered to list what they are or provide any facts to back that up, instead relying on a highly inaccurate yet highly emotive image to make a point. 

When I questioned that, rather than you proving your claim, you wanted me to debunk it, demanding I tell you how many "vaccines" a child gets by age 2.  I gave you the answer, which is 7.

But because you're either spreading more lies or are simply uneducated enough to know the definition of a vaccine and how it is used within the medical profession, you claimed I was lying with the answer of 7,

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 19th, 2019 at 3:09am:
you said 7 vaccines .. you lied

boo hoo for you , move on or your spam will be ignored


No, a vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins.

The MMR vaccine, which includes multiple individual injections/boosters etc, is considered a single vaccine because it provides an active immunity to a particular set of disease.

This is why we went down the rabbit hold of me asking you if you meant injections or vaccines but you refused to answer.

You refused to answer, so you could paint the factually accurate information I provided you as a lie.

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:40am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:35am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:32am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:28am:
Whats the number of vaccines applied to a child by the time they are 2 years old ?

Its a pretty simple question .. how many vaccines ?


Do you mean specific injection, or are you wanting to know what diseases these children are protected against?

Many of these are a single injection that cover a range of diseases.

And if I answer your question, will you mine?


How many vaccines is a child supposed to have by age 2 ?

Simple question .

Why are vaxxers so shy ??

Something to hide ??


7:

Hep B
Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio
Pneumococcal
Rotavirus
Meningococcal
Measles, Mumps, Rubella
Hep A

So which of these diseases do you want children to get?


it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 10:27am:
7 ?

Why do vaxxers lie so much ??

Go again and be honest this time .. actually ,

We should ask the top vaxxer pastaman actually

Seeings he gets paid by the pharmaceutical companies to teach the vaxxer myth ..

So go ahead and be honest pastaman ..

Tell us how many vaccines are children required to have by age 2 circa vaxxer requirements ..


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 10:56am:
So, what vaccines are they meant to get?

The answer is,

Hep B
Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio
Pneumococcal
Rotavirus
Meningococcal
Measles, Mumps, Rubella
Hep A

Taken from the National Immunisation Program Schedule From 1 April 2019

If you want to know something different, then ask for it.  I'm not a mind reader...


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:11pm:
Light, can you define what you mean by vaccine?

Why are you being so obstructionist when it's information you're asking for..?

How many times do we have to ask?

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 12:18pm:
Are you wanting to know how many individual needles/injections?

What point are you trying to make?


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 17th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 17th, 2019 at 7:54pm:


So you're counting every injection as a "vaccine"?

This was the first question I asked you pages and days ago...

We finally get the answer...

Even though you should prove your own claim, I'll find an answer the next time I'm at a computer and we'll see how wrong you are.


Fast forward to many pages of your spam later and I was finally able to decipher your spam in that you wanted the total number of injections.

As shown here,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1333413032/471#471

The total number of injections by age 2 is 11,

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 6:11am:
So even if you include the shots given to Mum during pregnancy (Influenza, Whooping cough), not the bub itself, that's only 13, 11 if you count the ones the baby physically gets.

Your meme I count at least 22, so, wrong very.  Or at least out of date, but you're a proven liar so I will assume you knew it was false but posted it anyway.


So will you correct the record and apologise for your lies?
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Reply #491 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 9:26am
 
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #492 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 9:42am
 
Light, this all started because of your post here,

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 13th, 2019 at 2:57pm:


Image:
...

This shows by my count, 22 injections by age 2.  You've not bothered to list what they are or provide any facts to back that up, instead relying on a highly inaccurate yet highly emotive image to make a point. 

When I questioned that, rather than you proving your claim, you wanted me to debunk it, demanding I tell you how many "vaccines" a child gets by age 2.  I gave you the answer, which is 7.

But because you're either spreading more lies or are simply uneducated enough to know the definition of a vaccine and how it is used within the medical profession, you claimed I was lying with the answer of 7,

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 19th, 2019 at 3:09am:
you said 7 vaccines .. you lied

boo hoo for you , move on or your spam will be ignored


No, a vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins.

The MMR vaccine, which includes multiple individual injections/boosters etc, is considered a single vaccine because it provides an active immunity to a particular set of disease.

This is why we went down the rabbit hold of me asking you if you meant injections or vaccines but you refused to answer.

You refused to answer, so you could paint the factually accurate information I provided you as a lie.

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:40am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:35am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:32am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:28am:
Whats the number of vaccines applied to a child by the time they are 2 years old ?

Its a pretty simple question .. how many vaccines ?


Do you mean specific injection, or are you wanting to know what diseases these children are protected against?

Many of these are a single injection that cover a range of diseases.

And if I answer your question, will you mine?


How many vaccines is a child supposed to have by age 2 ?

Simple question .

Why are vaxxers so shy ??

Something to hide ??


7:

Hep B
Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio
Pneumococcal
Rotavirus
Meningococcal
Measles, Mumps, Rubella
Hep A

So which of these diseases do you want children to get?


it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 10:27am:
7 ?

Why do vaxxers lie so much ??

Go again and be honest this time .. actually ,

We should ask the top vaxxer pastaman actually

Seeings he gets paid by the pharmaceutical companies to teach the vaxxer myth ..

So go ahead and be honest pastaman ..

Tell us how many vaccines are children required to have by age 2 circa vaxxer requirements ..


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 10:56am:
So, what vaccines are they meant to get?

The answer is,

Hep B
Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Polio
Pneumococcal
Rotavirus
Meningococcal
Measles, Mumps, Rubella
Hep A

Taken from the National Immunisation Program Schedule From 1 April 2019

If you want to know something different, then ask for it.  I'm not a mind reader...


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 9:11pm:
Light, can you define what you mean by vaccine?

Why are you being so obstructionist when it's information you're asking for..?

How many times do we have to ask?

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 12:18pm:
Are you wanting to know how many individual needles/injections?

What point are you trying to make?


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 17th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 17th, 2019 at 7:54pm:


So you're counting every injection as a "vaccine"?

This was the first question I asked you pages and days ago...

We finally get the answer...

Even though you should prove your own claim, I'll find an answer the next time I'm at a computer and we'll see how wrong you are.


Fast forward to many pages of your spam later and I was finally able to decipher your spam in that you wanted the total number of injections.

As shown here,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1333413032/471#471

The total number of injections by age 2 is 11,

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 6:11am:
So even if you include the shots given to Mum during pregnancy (Influenza, Whooping cough), not the bub itself, that's only 13, 11 if you count the ones the baby physically gets.

Your meme I count at least 22, so, wrong very.  Or at least out of date, but you're a proven liar so I will assume you knew it was false but posted it anyway.


So will you correct the record and apologise for your lies?
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Re: FDA: Vaccines still contain Mercury
Reply #493 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 10:01am
 
Quote:
if any attempt to derail this thread

you will simply be ignored ..or trolled ,

I haven't decided yet ..



I've made a decision ..

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Quote:
The MMR vaccine, which includes multiple individual injections/boosters etc, is considered a single vaccine because it provides an active immunity to a particular set of disease.


is considered a single vaccine eh ? by the drug pushers ?

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Reply #494 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 10:03am
 
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