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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #315 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 6:43pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 6:02pm:

I am not defending "muslims" i am defending palestinians. The fact that a high percentage of them are muslim isn't the point and doesn't come into it.

Israel is treating them badly and needs to be brought into line somehow.

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Moslems portray that to the world, that Israel is treating 'Palestinians' badly.

And you, are a moslem 'dupe' on this issue. [i.e. you have been 'taken in' by the moslem lies.]

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You accept moslem lies, as truth.

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And you refuse to examine any evidence to the contrary [i.e. the abundant proof that moslems are flagrant and unashamed liars].

Moslems are responsible for their lies.

But you are responsible, in seeking to inform yourself, as to what is true, OR, false.iGoogle;

taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

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palestinian lies media watch

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al dura hoax

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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #316 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 7:12pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 6:02pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 5:54pm:

I have noticed that about spot and puppet. Both have a clear bias towards Muslims. I haven't asked spot yet, but puppet simply refuses to explain what his political views are - hardly surprising in someone 'defending' Muslims. Spot just seems to have trouble acknowledging the facts if they don't suit his argument.

I am not defending "muslims" i am defending palestinians. The fact that a high percentage of them are muslim isn't the point and doesn't come into it. Israel is treating them badly and needs to be brought into line somehow.

SOB

I think if you asked them why they are lobbing rockets into Israel decades after they lost the last war, Islam would come into it.

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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #317 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 7:28pm

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 7:12pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 6:02pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 5:54pm:

I have noticed that about spot and puppet. Both have a clear bias towards Muslims. I haven't asked spot yet, but puppet simply refuses to explain what his political views are - hardly surprising in someone 'defending' Muslims. Spot just seems to have trouble acknowledging the facts if they don't suit his argument.

I am not defending "muslims" i am defending palestinians. The fact that a high percentage of them are muslim isn't the point and doesn't come into it. Israel is treating them badly and needs to be brought into line somehow.

SOB

I think if you asked them why they are lobbing rockets into Israel decades after they lost the last war, Islam would come into it.

Its their religion (well the muslim ones) and other ppl justify their actions by their religions too. The reason they are firing rockets is because they are pissed off @ the treatment they are getting.

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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #318 - Jun 17^th, 2012 at 7:57pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 17^th, 2012 at 7:28pm:

The reason they are firing rockets is because they are pissed off @ the treatment they are getting.

SOB

But contra wise, the Israelis, those on the receiving end [of the Pal rockets], have no right [of their own] to be pissed off with 'the treatment they are getting' [incessant rocketing of Israeli civilian areas], from the Pal's ???

No.

Of course not.
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That is what disgusts me, with moslems.

They are such absolute, whining hypocrites.

They abduct, and rape, and murder, the children of 'unbelievers'.

But moslems, have absolutely no consideration for the mothers of those children who are being abducted, raped, and murdered, by moslems !!

Don't moslem mothers have any compassion for the mothers of 'unbelievers', whose children are abducted, raped, and murdered, by moslems ???

Apparently not.

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Kuwait: "Female political activist" calls for legalizing sex slavery to protect men from "adultery or corruption"

KUWAIT: A female political activist and former parliamentary candidate has recommended the introduction of legislation to legalize the provision of enslaved female concubines for Muslim men in Kuwait in a bid, she says, to protect those men from committing adultery or corruption.

The activist, Salwa Al-Mutairi, suggested apparently seriously in a video broadcast online that she had been informed by some clerics that affluent Muslim men who fear being seduced or tempted into immoral behavior by the beauty of their female servants, or even of those servants 'casting spells' on them, would be better to purchase women from an 'enslaved maid' agency for sexual purposes.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/kuwait-female-political-activist-calls-for-leg...

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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #319 - Jun 18^th, 2012 at 8:14am

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2012-06/17/c_131658845.htm

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Abbas slams Israel's refusal to two-state principle, likely to meet senior Israeli official
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RAMALLAH, June 17 (Xinhua) -- Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Sunday slammed Israel for not accepting the principle of two-state solution, as he is expected to meet early next month with Israeli Vice Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz.

During a conference held in Ramallah, Abbas held Israel responsible for the deadlock of peace process, adding that " reviving the clinically dead peace process is in their hands."

"The Israeli rejection to keep its commitment to the peace process would make the principle of two-state solution just an illusion," Abbas said.

He also said the Israeli side "has planted its settlements and settlers in our lands in a studied way that tears the territories of our future state into isolated pieces of lands," making the idea of establishing an independent Palestinian state on 1967 territories impossible.

In October 2010, the Palestinians suspended the direct peace talks with Israel after the latter insisted on continuing settlement building on the territories it occupied in 1967.

The Palestinians insist that there will be no resumption of talks with Israel until it completely stops building settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem.

Meanwhile, Abbas renewed his appeal to Arab and Muslim leaders all over the world to visit east Jerusalem and support residents there "to block the Israeli attempts of Judaizing the city."

Also on Sunday, chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat told Voice of Palestine Radio that Abbas is likely to hold a meeting next month with Mofaz, a deputy to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to discuss the revival of stalled peace process.

"President Abbas is studying the time and place of holding a meeting with Mofaz, who has repeatedly requested to meet to study the revival of peace talks," said Erekat.

He revealed that Abbas will not meet with Netanyahu unless the latter releases Palestinian prisoners from Israeli jails and allows arms to security forces of the Palestinian National Authority.

"If such a meeting between Abbas and Netanyahu is held, it will be an opportunity to start a dialogue," he said, added that " Resuming direct peace talks would need Israel to completely halts settlement building in the West Bank and east Jerusalem."

Erekat is expected to fly to Washington to meet with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton next week. "I will tell Clinton and other U.S. officials that Washington has to exert more efforts to... bring the peace process back to its track," he said.

"I will tell them that settlement should end," said Erekat.

Israel doesnt even want peace!

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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #320 - Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:15pm

Yup they broke another one. Why avram?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18558699

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Firefighters tried to put out the fires following the air strikes on the Gaza Strip

Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip have killed two Palestinians just days after a ceasefire was brokered.

At least 21 others have been injured, including 17 early on Saturday morning. The wounded included two women and four children, hospital officials said.

The Israeli Defence Force (IDF) said the air strikes have been targeted at people preparing or firing rockets.

The Gaza border with Israel has seen some of the worst violence in recent months over the last week.

Since Monday, Israeli air strikes have killed at least 10 Palestinians while militants have fired over 130 rockets.

Earlier on Friday, Palestinian militants launched two rockets into Israel which did not cause any damage.

Friday's attacks were the first instances of violence since an Egypt-brokered ceasefire was put in place on Wednesday.
Hamas involvement

In a statement, the Israeli Defence Force said it had "targeted a terrorist squad during preparations to fire a rocket at Israel from the central Gaza Strip" in its first airstrike on Friday.

That attack killed a man called Basel Ahmed, who was buried later on Friday. A second air strike on Friday killed an unnamed 18 year-old, who the IDF said had been part of a group firing rockets into Israel.

Initial reports suggested both men may have been from an Islamist Salafi militant group, but this has not been confirmed.

Further strikes early on Saturday morning hit sites including a security compound belonging to the Hamas administration in the centre of Gaza city.

Houses near the compound were also reportedly damaged.

The latest series of clashes started with air strikes on Monday morning, just hours after gunmen from Sinai carried out an ambush along Israel's southern border with Egypt, killing an Israeli-Arab construction worker.

Escalations of violence like this happen every few months, but on this occasion the ruling Islamist group Hamas has admitted to carrying out some of the rocket attacks itself for the first time in a year.

It has largely held back from carrying out itself since Israel's three-week offensive in Gaza in 2008-2009, Operation Cast Lead.

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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #322 - Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:35pm

Soren wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:15pm:

Yup they broke another one. Why avram?

Because "militants have fired over 130 rockets"

When? During the ceasefire? No? Who broke it? Why agree to it if they arent gunna stick to it? Obviously the jews dishonest to the core.

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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #323 - Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 8:20pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:15pm:

Yup they broke another one. Why avram?

Because "militants have fired over 130 rockets"

When? During the ceasefire? Yes!! Who broke it? Why agree to it if they arent gunna stick to it? Obviously Hamas are dishonest to the core.

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Reply #324 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:17am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 8:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:15pm:

Yup they broke another one. Why avram?

Because "militants have fired over 130 rockets"

When? During the ceasefire? Yes!! Who broke it? Why agree to it if they arent gunna stick to it? Obviously Hamas are dishonest to the core.

SOB

you change my quote to a lie? Israel broke the ceasefire not hamas.

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Reply #325 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 6:46pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:17am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 8:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:15pm:

Yup they broke another one. Why avram?

Because "militants have fired over 130 rockets"

When? During the ceasefire? Yes!! Who broke it? Why agree to it if they arent gunna stick to it? Obviously Hamas are dishonest to the core.

SOB

you change my quote to a lie? Israel broke the ceasefire not hamas.

SOB

Yep, made it truthful.....
Read the the news stories AND the timeline....

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #326 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:07pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 6:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:17am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 8:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:15pm:

Yup they broke another one. Why avram?

Because "militants have fired over 130 rockets"

When? During the ceasefire? Yes!! Who broke it? Why agree to it if they arent gunna stick to it? Obviously Hamas are dishonest to the core.

SOB

you change my quote to a lie? Israel broke the ceasefire not hamas.

SOB

Yep, made it truthful.....
Read the the news stories AND the timeline....

It is dishonest to change someone elses post. Especially a QUOTE.

Israel breaks ceasefires all the time. Why? Because they dont want peace. They started bulldozing again is why the rockets started. The rockets STOPPED when the ceasefire was called then israel did an airstrike.

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Re: Israel and the Palestinians
Reply #327 - Jun 24^th, 2012 at 9:19pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 6:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 24^th, 2012 at 7:17am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 8:20pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:35pm:

Soren wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2012 at 6:15pm:

Yup they broke another one. Why avram?

Because "militants have fired over 130 rockets"

When? During the ceasefire? Yes!! Who broke it? Why agree to it if they arent gunna stick to it? Obviously Hamas are dishonest to the core.

SOB

you change my quote to a lie? Israel broke the ceasefire not hamas.

SOB

Yep, made it truthful.....
Read the the news stories AND the timeline....

It is dishonest to change someone elses post. Especially a QUOTE.

Israel breaks ceasefires all the time. Why? Because they dont want peace. They started bulldozing again is why the rockets started. The rockets STOPPED when the ceasefire was called then israel did an airstrike.

SOB

Idiot. Read your own news article that you posted. It says "militants have fired over 130 rockets"

What a moron.

Also, from the article YOU posted, you insufferable fooking looney:

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Earlier on Friday, Palestinian militants launched two rockets into Israel which did not cause any damage.

Friday's attacks were the first instances of violence since an Egypt-brokered ceasefire was put in place on Wednesday.

What a fooking moron you are. Run along, child, tell daddy FD that Soren kicked your bollocks. Go on.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26506 Australia	Re: Israel and the Palestinians Reply #328 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 6:47am Did you click on the link? See the headline? All the other articles on same thing? They all say israel broke the treaty. Geez they were bulldozing again too. SOB
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Reply #329 - Jun 25^th, 2012 at 10:52pm

Just read your OWN post, moron. YOUR OWN POST. Did you get that? or is all capitals still no good because it's black and not some unspecified colour without which comprehension is impossible for you. Or is it the wrong bloody font, that's why you don't understand it? Or what?

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Earlier on Friday, Palestinian militants launched two rockets into Israel which did not cause any damage.

Friday's attacks were the first instances of violence since an Egypt-brokered ceasefire was put in place on Wednesday.

You posted that, bozo. it says that the Pallos' attack was the first since the ceasefire. What does that mean to you? That the Pallos' attack was the first since the ceasefire or something completely different? Check with your cat, it might have a better grasp of basic things like reading.

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