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Reply #75 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:09pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:07pm:
falah wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
... wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 6:14pm:
Arabic and business.

Well they're just a natural fit aren't they.  2 peas in a pod.



Australian trade to Arab speaking countries in 2008 = $15 billion (3.3% of Australia's international trade)

http://www.dfat.gov.au/publications/stats-pubs/Trade-Africa-Middle-East.pdf  (p.18)



Arab business

1. Dig oil
2. Sell oil

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You missed one

3. Shoot JIsraeli's
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Reply #76 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:13pm
 
Johnsmith wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:09pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:07pm:
falah wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
... wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 6:14pm:
Arabic and business.

Well they're just a natural fit aren't they.  2 peas in a pod.



Australian trade to Arab speaking countries in 2008 = $15 billion (3.3% of Australia's international trade)

http://www.dfat.gov.au/publications/stats-pubs/Trade-Africa-Middle-East.pdf  (p.18)



Arab business

1. Dig oil
2. Sell oil

End.


You missed one

3. Shoot JIsraeli's



3. Strap bomb to themselves and board bus with school children.
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Reply #77 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:18pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:13pm:
Johnsmith wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:09pm:
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:07pm:
falah wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 7:04pm:
... wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 6:14pm:
Arabic and business.

Well they're just a natural fit aren't they.  2 peas in a pod.



Australian trade to Arab speaking countries in 2008 = $15 billion (3.3% of Australia's international trade)

http://www.dfat.gov.au/publications/stats-pubs/Trade-Africa-Middle-East.pdf  (p.18)



Arab business

1. Dig oil
2. Sell oil

End.


You missed one

3. Shoot JIsraeli's



3. Strap bomb to themselves and board bus with school children.


Israeli business:

1. Suck $3 billion a year from US in "aid"
2. Steal land from palestinians
3. Oppress palestinians
4. Make fake Australian passports
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Reply #78 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:29pm
 
Fake Australian passports?
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Reply #79 - Apr 20th, 2012 at 11:03pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 20th, 2012 at 8:29pm:
Fake Australian passports?

Don't be cute. We know why Israeli's come here.

Australian and New Zealand passports are like gold to you people.

Come over set up a travel agency, counterfeit some passports.

Mossad 'factory' churned out fake Australian passports


February 26, 2010

A former Mossad officer has alleged the Israeli spy agency has its own "passport factory" to create or doctor passports for use in intelligence operations.

Relations between Australia and Israel are under strain after three Australian passports were apparently used by suspects in the killing of top Hamas leader Mahmoud Al Mabhouh in Dubai last month.

Dubai police say they are 99 per cent sure Mossad was behind the operation to smother Mabhouh with a pillow in his hotel room.

Victor Ostrovsky, a case officer at Mossad for several years in the 1980s, says he has no doubt Australian passports have been forged or fraudulently used for similar operations in the past.

"They need passports because you can't go around with an Israeli passport, not even a forged one, and get away or get involved with people from the Arab world," he said.

"They'll shy away right away. So most of these [Mossad] operations are carried out on what's called false flag, which means you pretend to be of another country which is less belligerent to those countries that you're trying to recruit from.

"If they can obtain blank passports, which they have in the past from Canada, from England, they do. If not, they just manufacture them."

He says a company within Mossad headquarters is dedicated to forging passports.

"They create various types of papers, every kind of ink. It's a very, very expensive research department," he said.

He says the manufactured passports are almost identical to the originals.

"If they create a passport at a top level for use of that nature ... I don't think anybody will be able to find the difference," he said.

Mr Ostrovsky says fraudulent Australian passports have been used regularly.

"Consider the fact that Australians speak English and it's an easy cover to take, very few people know very much about Australia," he said.

"You can tell whatever stories you want. It doesn't take much of an accent to be an Australian or New Zealander, or an Englishman for that matter. And I know people had been under Australian cover not once [but] quite a few times. So why not use it?"

He says Mossad chooses which passports to forge based on the cover agents need and the operation they are involved in.

"At the time there were people that were asked ... 'If when you're here in Israel we may need for security purposes to use your passport, would you allow us to do that?'" he said.

"And people would say 'yes'. There were shelves upon shelves of real passports just waiting to be used."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-26/mossad-factory-churned-out-fake-australian/343612


'Mossad spies' jailed over New Zealand passport fraud


Friday 16 July 2004

The prime minister of New Zealand angrily denounced Israel and imposed diplomatic sanctions on it after two suspected Mossad agents were jailed for six months for trying on false grounds to obtain a New Zealand passport.

The plot, which involved obtaining a passport in the name of a tetraplegic man who had not spoken in years, provoked a furious reaction yesterday.

"The breach of New Zealand laws and sovereignty by agents of the Israeli government has seriously strained our relationship with Israel," said the prime minister, Helen Clark.

"This type of behaviour is unacceptable internationally by any country. It is a sorry indictment of Israel that it has again taken such actions against a country with which it has friendly relations."

High-level visits between the two countries will be cancelled, visa restrictions imposed for Israeli officials, and an expected visit to New Zealand by Moshe Katsov, the Israeli president, later this year has been cancelled.

Ms Clark said Israel had ignored requests made three months ago for an explanation and an apology.

The action marks the most serious rupture in New Zealand's international relations since Wellington suspended diplomatic relations with France in 1985 after French agents bombed Greenpeace's anti-nuclear ship Rainbow Warrior in Auckland harbour.

The Mossad plot was uncovered in March when a passport officer noticed that a passport applicant was speaking with a Canadian or American accent.

The clue led to the uncovering of a complex conspiracy involving up to four Israeli agents, who had attempted to create a false identity for 36-year-old Zev Barkan, another suspected Israeli spy, using a fraudulent birth certificate, a fake voicemail message and letter box, and concocted medical symptoms.

Uriel Kelman, 30, and Eli Cara, 50, were each sentenced to six months in prison yesterday for their involvement in the plot. Both men had gone to elaborate steps to conceal their identities: Kelman appeared at the court wearing a balaclava and covered his face throughout the two-hour hearing, while Cara had changed his hair colour, complexion and build since his first court appearance in March.

Mr Barkan and a fourth man believed to have been connected to the plot are still on the run. Mr Barkan lived in a house just a few hundred metres from his target, a wheel-chair user who has not been named for legal reasons. Cara set up a false travel agency in Sydney to aid the deception.

A birth certificate was obtained using details of the man's mother, who now lives in England, and an Auckland doctor was persuaded to witness Mr Barkan's passport application after seeing him for a couple of minor ailments.

Kelman and Cara were arrested in March following a prolonged cat-and-mouse game in Auckland when police traced phone records between Mr Barkan and the two men.

Officers planned to arrest the ringleaders as they picked up the completed passport, but Cara had pre-empted this by having it sent by courier to an apartment block, where it was to be collected by a taxi driver and taken to a rendezvous with Kelman elsewhere in Auckland.

Police surveillance caught Cara acting suspiciously, close to the central Auckland apartment block, while Kelman was arrested after fleeing the other rendezvous and throwing his mobile phone into a hedge.

Israel's acting ambassador in Australia, Orma Sagiv, said Israel would work to rebuild relations with New Zealand.

"Israel values its relations with New Zealand very much and we will do everything we can to return relations to their former situation," she said.

In Jerusalem, Silvan Shalom, the Israeli foreign minister, said Israel was disappointed with New Zealand's reaction.

"Israel is very sorry about the decision that was taken by the [New Zealand] government," Mr Shalom said. "But we believe that if we will work one with each other as we used to work in the past, we will overcome the last difficulty."

Mossad has frequently been accused of using fake passports to launch its operations. A 1997 incident in which Mossad agents used fake Canadian passports in an attempt to assassinate the Hamas leader, Sheikh Khaled Mashal, caused the Israeli ambassador to be ordered out of Canada until Tel Aviv promised to cease the practice.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jul/16/israel



How valuable are NZ passports?


Wed, 20 Jul 2011

The story that surfaced today in The Southland Times of the Israeli intelligence service having spies in New Zealand, one with a suspected five passports in his possession, has raised an interesting point: how valuable are New Zealand passports?

3 News political reporter Rebecca Wright spoke to former recruiting officer for the Israeli Mossad (foreign intelligence service) Victor Ostrovsky about the alleged spies and the worth of our passports.

Mr Ostrovsky, speaking from Scottsville, Arizona in the United States, says New Zealand passports are “like gold” for “bone-diggers”, the colloquial name for people who steal identities to create passports.

“Very few people know anything about New Zealand. If you’re going to ask the average European, the average Middle Eastern or the average American about New Zealand, they’re really not going to know anything.

“This means when you carry that passport, you can say anything you want about anything and you have a perfect cover.”

Mr Ostrovsky was also firm is his message about young Israelis carrying multiple passports.

“No Israeli 20 something year old is going to walk around New Zealand with more than one passport, if he does, then there’s a problem. If he has two, he may be in trouble or involved with something criminal. If he has more than two, you are looking at a security problem, there’s no question about that.”

http://www.3news.co.nz/How-valuable-are-NZ-passports---full-interview/tabid/419/...





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