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Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream?
Reply #135 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 6:57pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 11:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 8:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 12:02am:

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:52pm:

The reality is we don't know that Mohammed married Aisha for reasons of Paedophilia. Such marriages were, as I've shown, quite commonplace even in Europe. Therefore, to try and claim he was a Paedophile is wrong IMO. You have no evidence as to what his motivations were or even if the story as to her age was accurate, Bobby. Roll Eyes

We do not hold it up as God's final message to man for all eternity - diddle 9 year olds - 12 year olds - as long as they have bled.

You horrible, dishonest apologist.

You really do have problems with being objective about Muslims and Islam, don't you, Soren? Nope, no bigotry there at all. Roll Eyes

I am objective.

I think you don't know the meaning of the word, Soren. Roll Eyes

Objective truths:

Islamic doctrines are disgusting and despicable on women, Jews, nonMuslims; stupid on most other things. It is a stupid AND dangerous ideology. You are free to choose it or reject it in the West.

Not so in 'Muslim lands' - another despicable thing about it.

Islam is an ideology FREELY chosen, embraced, propagated and FREELY rejected, mocked and dismissed. It has NO special claim for special treatment, respect, protection.

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Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream?
Reply #136 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 6:57pm

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The idea that all Muslims have paedophilic tendencies because one of Muhammed's wives was a child is so out there it could only be argued here.
If you want to hear the most surreal and fantastical leaps of logic, come to this board.

Can you quote someone actually saying that?

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I'm not against exposing any deeds but such deeds must be considered in the context of the legal, social and moral milieu of the day, Moses.

I notice you avoided the question about that Brian. If I joined NAMBLA, or traveled to Thailand or some Muslim country where everyone else is doing it, would it then be OK for me to have sex with children?

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We have at best, circumstantial evidence about Mohammed's relationship with Aisha. You can't provide any definitive proof nor can you actually show what he did was immoral or illegal by the standards of those days, 1400 years ago.

Which is of course, completely irrelevant.

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Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream?
Reply #137 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 7:01pm

Soren wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 6:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 11:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 8:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 12:02am:

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:52pm:

The reality is we don't know that Mohammed married Aisha for reasons of Paedophilia. Such marriages were, as I've shown, quite commonplace even in Europe. Therefore, to try and claim he was a Paedophile is wrong IMO. You have no evidence as to what his motivations were or even if the story as to her age was accurate, Bobby. Roll Eyes

We do not hold it up as God's final message to man for all eternity - diddle 9 year olds - 12 year olds - as long as they have bled.

You horrible, dishonest apologist.

You really do have problems with being objective about Muslims and Islam, don't you, Soren? Nope, no bigotry there at all. Roll Eyes

I am objective.

I think you don't know the meaning of the word, Soren. Roll Eyes

Objective truths:

Islamic doctrines are disgusting and despicable on women, Jews, nonMuslims; stupid on most other things. It is a stupid AND dangerous ideology. You are free to choose it or reject it in the West.

True but there is effectively no difference between Islam and Christianity as far as the things you've just claimed. Christianity has oppressed women, Jews and non-Christians, doing them onto death just as happily, Soren. If you were truly objective you'd know and understand that. That you keep turning a blind-eye to it, in order to persecute Muslims alone suggests what about your motivations? It certainly isn't objectivity. Roll Eyes

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Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream?
Reply #138 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 7:09pm

moses wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 4:36pm:

You could probably take the qur'an as some sort of adjudicator re the age of marrying for muslims.

sura 65 (the divorce) is a chapter dealing with required times for divorced muslim wives to wait before remarrying etc.

65.4:And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.

This verse seems very clear to me:

no longer expect menstruation, would mean change of life.

who have not menstruated, would mean little prepubescent girls

And for those who are pregnant, means exactly that pregnant females

Child marriage/rape of little girls is covered in islamic doctrine.

Good point, Moses. How many Muslims are defending their marriage to children, pregnant women and old ladies based on your chapter?

I think that was your question.

I note you haven’t raised Leviticus on this issue. What do you think of the Jewish laws?

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Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream?
Reply #139 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 7:24pm

Soren wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 6:57pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 11:40pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 8:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2014 at 12:02am:

Soren wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 11:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2014 at 10:52pm:

The reality is we don't know that Mohammed married Aisha for reasons of Paedophilia. Such marriages were, as I've shown, quite commonplace even in Europe. Therefore, to try and claim he was a Paedophile is wrong IMO. You have no evidence as to what his motivations were or even if the story as to her age was accurate, Bobby. Roll Eyes

We do not hold it up as God's final message to man for all eternity - diddle 9 year olds - 12 year olds - as long as they have bled.

You horrible, dishonest apologist.

You really do have problems with being objective about Muslims and Islam, don't you, Soren? Nope, no bigotry there at all. Roll Eyes

I am objective.

I think you don't know the meaning of the word, Soren. Roll Eyes

You are free to choose it or reject it in the West.

This is exactly the sort of idiotic, handwringing, spineless apologist fappery you’re an expert in, OB.

Have another Valium. Have two!

You’ve earned it.

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Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream?
Reply #140 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 7:28pm

Pedophile sympathisers will be exposed.

one such as I am

exposes the darkness without permission

or approval yes this work is not for the faint

hearted beloved ones ... and this is why and

from the energy in which I emanate in whom I am

as a humble servant in the divine

and sacred LIGHT as we continue

to monitor all thoughts word

and deed ,and so it is

namaste

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Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream?
Reply #141 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 7:33pm

freediver wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 6:57pm:

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The idea that all Muslims have paedophilic tendencies because one of Muhammed's wives was a child is so out there it could only be argued here.
If you want to hear the most surreal and fantastical leaps of logic, come to this board.

Can you quote someone actually saying that?

Sure, FD.

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If I joined NAMBLA, or traveled to... some Muslim country where everyone else is doing it, would it then be OK for me to have sex with children?

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42236	Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream? Reply #142 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:09pm Bobby. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 7:28pm: Pedophile sympathisers will be exposed. Who are these "Pedophile[sic] sympathisers", Bobby that you keep claiming will be exposed? There aren't any here that I can see.
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Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream?
Reply #143 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 7:28pm:

Pedophile sympathisers will be exposed.

Who are these "Pedophile[sic] sympathisers", Bobby that you keep claiming will be exposed? There aren't any here that I can see. Roll Eyes

Maybe he means that it's the paedophile sympathisers that'll be exposed - just not in the way you think Wink

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Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream?
Reply #144 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:26pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 7:28pm:

Pedophile sympathisers will be exposed.

Who are these "Pedophile[sic] sympathisers", Bobby that you keep claiming will be exposed? There aren't any here that I can see. Roll Eyes

Just look in the mirror & repeat what you wrote:

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Brian Ross
The reality is we don't know that Mohammed married Aisha for reasons of Paedophilia. Such marriages were, as I've shown, quite commonplace even in Europe. Therefore, to try and claim he was a Paedophile is wrong IMO. You have no evidence as to what his motivations were or even if the story as to her age was accurate, Bobby.

forgiven

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49308 At my desk.	Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream? Reply #145 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:28pm Not that there's anything wrong with that. Still waiting for Gandalf to reveal all those Koran verses about Aisha hitting puberty....
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream? Reply #146 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:43pm freediver wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:28pm: Still waiting for Gandalf to reveal all those Koran verses about Aisha hitting puberty.... You'll find it in the same place as "all those Koran verses" about stoning and executing prisoners - and all that other crap you made up about the Quran.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49308 At my desk.	Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream? Reply #147 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:46pm Is this you backpedaling Gandalf?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream? Reply #148 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 9:48pm Sure FD - as long as you can quote me saying my references came from the Quran.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49308 At my desk.	Re: Islam: a pedophile's dream? Reply #149 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 10:02pm You made them up, didn't you?
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