Exactly. Terrorists come in all shapes and sizes.

If Breivik had have been a Jihadi terrorist with a beard, he would have been attacking America and people wouldn't be saying he is insane.

Who and what does a terrorist look like?

Like you and me. You can't fight terrorism because you don't know who they are as much as you like to stereotype them.

On the issue of sanity - insanity usually comes with significant mental impairment, whereas terrorism usually requires careful and deliberate planning and even cooperation between many people. If you were going to blow something up, you would not want a lunatic hanging around. This is similar to the legal distinction made between premeditation and a crime of passion or temporary insanity.

On the issue of motivation, when it comes to Islam you are creating a false dichotomy between religion and politics. Under Islam, they are one and the same.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 9:25am:




If we want to understand moslem terrorism, we must seek to understand what justifies moslem terrorism [in the moslem mind].



The fact is that moslems define all aparent circumstances [which we also see in front of our eyes] differently to us [non-moslems], so as to justify their violence against non-moslems.

Q.
Are we [non-moslems] attacking moslems and ISLAM ?

OR, are we non-moslems defending ourselves [and our communities] from ISLAMIC violence [a violence which is 'religiously' justified by moslems and ISLAM] ?





If you listen to moslems talking among themselves, moslems claim and express the belief [in their minds] that the West is oppressing moslems who live in the West, because, we are forcing moslems to obey Western secular law.

Therefore;
Can moslems rightfully claim that we non-moslems are oppressing those moslems who live among us ?

Because that is the claim which moslems make [among themselves], against us !

We non-moslems are the 'oppressors'.

And moslem violence against we non-moslems is justified [in the eyes of moslems] !

And that, is the twisted 'logic' which moslems use, to see themselves as the 'victims', who are justified in fighting and using extreme violence against their 'oppressors' [we non-moslems].



Moslems want Sharia law.

And where there is no Sharia law in a society, THAT, moslems view that circumstance as the oppression of moslems !





We non-moslems are 'criminals', in the eyes of moslems.

That is how ISLAM categorises non-moslems.





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The self evident 'religious' paradigm which ISLAM intends to eventually 'communicate' to the whole world, is that 'unbelief' [in Allah] is a crime [against Allah,  ...and, against humanity!].
And good moslems want you 'unbelievers' to understand, that that crime of 'unbelief', >> must << attract 'justified' moslem violence.


/sarc off

Koran 2.98
Koran 47:8-11
Koran 4.74-76

The content of those three Koran verse groups, together, form a 'virtuous circle'.
Each verse group firstly confirms and then reinforces the ISLAMIC 'religious' paradigm, that,
1/    unbelief [in man] is a serious 'religious' crime, and that,
2/    good moslems are 'rightly guided' 'crime fighters', and that,
3/    the 'criminals' deserve everything they get [...because Allah states that unbelievers are in league with SATAN]!

Those arguments [above] are 'logically' demonstrated...

1/    "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." [i.e. 'Unbelief' [in man] is a crime.].
Koran 2.98
[ - - The enemy of moslems is identified. All of 'unbelieving' mankind, are the declared enemy of moslems.]

2/    "...those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47:8-11
[ - - Here, it is clearly stated to every good moslem, that moslem enmity, violence, and warfare, against 'those who reject Faith', is morally justified, and 'lawful'. /sarc off]

3/    "...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:...."
Koran 4.74-76
[ - - Those who reject 'Faith' are ipso facto, 'rightly' deemed as being innately evil by ISLAM, and by Allah. Therefore those who reject 'Faith', are the rightful targets of moslem enmity, violence, and warfare.
...'those who reject Faith' are also described [Koran 4.74-76], as 'oppressors' and as, 'the friends of Satan'.]

Once again...
1/    'Unbelief' [in man] is a crime.
2/    The crime of 'unbelief' >> must << be punished.
3/    Punishment of 'unbelief' is morally justified, because, 'unbelief' is a crime.





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i.e.
ISLAM creates a mental instability [a state of insanity] in those people who choose to embrace it.

ISLAM creates a mental instability [a state of insanity] in those people who choose to embrace its doctrines of hatred.

A hatred directed towards ALL people, and ALL ideas, and ALL concepts, which are deemed to be non-ISLAMIC.



And Western countries, and overwhelmingly the intellectuals in the West, and politicians in the Western countries, see no problem in allowing those persons who embrace the 'ISLAMIC worldview' [who embrace a culture of violence, and ISLAMIC supremacism], moslems, to live and walk among us.

Our intellectuals and politicians, imo, are mad, and morally blind.





In the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, our Western intellectuals and Western politicians still claim that they are certain that ISLAM is a benign and peaceful and socially healthy philosophy.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 9:25am:


If someone is suicidal that is considered a serious mental illness that needs treatment.

If someone is suicidal and homicidal that is the worst case scenario for mental health professionals to deal with.

A jihadi who is suicidal and homicidal is evidence that taking Islam seriously can lead to mental health issues, they should put a warning label on the Quran like they do with cigarettes.

These suicidal-Homicidal muslims who blow things up in the name of Allah are rewarded with 72 houris and a everlasting erection to service them with in paradise.
This reward system for mass murder is part of the problem.

The 600 page Qadri fatwa was supposed to outaw Islamic terror, if it was not allowed in the first place then why the need for a 600 page fatwa outlawing it?
Qadri is a Sufi so the sunni-salafi-shia will take no notice of that fatwa.

The Nazis portrayed Hitler as semi-deity with the swastika as a placebo crucifix. Same as Lenin's tomb and the crossed hammer-sickle. The old commies were in effect terrorists in US and were illegal in Oz in 1950's. Ku Klux Klan are prolly terrorist and Breivik is one who hates n1gger-lovers.
The abortion-clinic anti-doctor killers have religious motive as with Muslims.

chimera wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 4:35pm:


There have only been around a dozen abortion clinic workers killed by christian nutjobs in the USA.

Yes they have the same motive as muslims yet they dont get 72 virgins and a everlasting erection in paradise for all eternity as a reward.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 3:31pm:


That Fort Hood terrorist was assessed for mental illness i think you will find all major crimes will have medical reports prepared for the courts.

If they want to use mental illness for a defence then what caused this mental illness was it Islamic ideology?