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Re: Worship and Being Human
Reply #90 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:22pm

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There is nothing, that is 'magical'.

Something is either real, or, it isn't!

Where exactly did I say there were magical things?

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Just like truth.

If something is not >> truth <<, then it is NOT truth.

And, it could be a falsehood.

Who decides what truth is ???

You do.

And i do.

AND, we all live our lives, based upon what >> we << hold to be true.

Don't we ???

No. You may. We all dont live or think the same.

Myself I try to stick to facts and let truth held by those who "need" to. One persons truth is not always anothers.

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Re: Worship and Being Human
Reply #91 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:27pm

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Truth is absolute.

In the same way that light, is absolutely light, and not darkness.

And like darkness, is absolutely darkness, and not light.

Like black is black.

And like white, is white.

No. If you arent going to read my posts I am not going to bother retyping it all but different ppl may see different things. Most of us have an agreement with each other which color is red and which is green so we can use traffic lights but you cant be sure another persons red looks the same as yours. I say most because there are exceptions. Ppl who are blind or determined "colorblind" by others. They may see colors but what they see is too far removed from what most consider "normal". It doesnt make them wrong just different.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Worship and Being Human Reply #92 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:27pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:22pm: Myself I try to stick to facts and let truth held by those who "need" to. One persons truth is not always anothers. Are facts not truths, by definition?
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Reply #93 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:29pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:22pm:

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There is nothing, that is 'magical'.

Something is either real, or, it isn't!

Where exactly did I say there were magical things?

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Just like truth.

If something is not >> truth <<, then it is NOT truth.

And, it could be a falsehood.

Who decides what truth is ???

You do.

And i do.

AND, we all live our lives, based upon what >> we << hold to be true.

Don't we ???

No. You may. We all dont live or think the same.

Myself I try to stick to facts and let truth held by those who "need" to.

One persons truth is not always anothers.

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No.

The truth, is the truth, ......absolutely, and always.

But those who claim to be true, are often found to be liars.

But that circumstance, does not discredit what truth is [or even what >> the << truth is].

Does it ?

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Re: Worship and Being Human
Reply #94 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:30pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:19pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:08pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:06pm:

To each his own. I just try to stick to facts then I dont have to worry about whose perspective of truth is right.

By that statement you confirm that truth is not relative.

I must have said it wrong then,

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have another shot.

Geez.

I just try to stick to facts then I dont have to worry about different perspectives of truth.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Worship and Being Human Reply #95 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:33pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:30pm: Geez. I just try to stick to facts then I dont have to worry about different perspectives of truth. SOB Aren't facts truths?
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Re: Worship and Being Human
Reply #96 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:34pm

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Heh. Well how can the "truth" be different for different ppl if its not "relative"? look @ a case of law. 2 witnesses and they each saw different things from their own perspectives. Which is the truth? Well usually it turns out both or neither and the "facts" are what can be proven.

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Re: Worship and Being Human
Reply #97 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:34pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:

Geez.

I just try to stick to facts then I dont have to worry about different perspectives of truth.

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Aren't facts truths?

Only if you want to be semantic.

I draw the distinction that facts can be proved with evidence.

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Reply #98 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:36pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:

Geez.

I just try to stick to facts then I dont have to worry about different perspectives of truth.

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Aren't facts truths?

facts can be proved with evidence.

In an effort to determine... ?

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Reply #99 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:46pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

Yadda

You obviously missed this post

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Heh. Well how can the "truth" be different for different ppl if its not "relative"? look @ a case of law. 2 witnesses and they each saw different things from their own perspectives. Which is the truth? Well usually it turns out both or neither and the "facts" are what can be proven.

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SOB,

You missed my point [too]. Wink

Yadda wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

Who decides what truth is ???

You do.

And i do.

AND, we all live our lives, based upon what >> we << hold to be true.

Don't we ???

My point is, that truth does not change, due to our [human] perception [ <------ which is always imperfect].

Again, the truth, is always, the truth.

Truth is absolute.

p.s.
And re those two witnesses......which one of the two witnesses testimony was proven to be closer to the 'truth' by the cctv footage ??? Wink

Hmmm ?

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Re: Worship and Being Human
Reply #100 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:47pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:36pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:30pm:

Geez.

I just try to stick to facts then I dont have to worry about different perspectives of truth.

SOB

Aren't facts truths?

facts can be proved with evidence.

In an effort to determine... ?

Picking on the words I use this time of day is just anal.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Worship and Being Human Reply #101 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:54pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:47pm: Picking on the words I use this time of day is just anal. SOB Do you have a time slot for truth?
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Re: Worship and Being Human
Reply #102 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:56pm

We're now at the core of what sets us apart, not only from all animals but (evidently) from all other hominids...

As a species, we have an innate belief that truth exists and an innate desire to know it - to be one with it - that is all pervading. Everything that defines us as unique is subject to it.

We seek it, we venerate it, we honour it, we worship it.

Why is it that a species is so afflicted?

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Reply #103 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 3:00pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:54pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 2:47pm:

Picking on the words I use this time of day is just anal.

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Do you have a time slot for truth?

We're now at the core of what sets us apart, not only from all animals but (evidently) from all other hominids...

As a species, we have an innate belief that truth exists and an innate desire to know it - to be one with it - that is all pervading. Everything that defines us as unique is subject to it.

We seek it, we venerate it, we honour it, we worship it.

How is it that a species can be so afflicted?

Absolutely! Grin

John 18:37
......Jesus answered,......To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

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Re: Worship and Being Human
Reply #104 - Apr 29^th, 2012 at 3:02pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 29^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

Absolutely! Grin

John 18:37
......Jesus answered,......To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Well, that's where you and I part... That an ancient Palestinian can arrogate truth to himself, or to make himself truth in itself, is to make truth contingent upon being, less than what it is.

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