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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Dont Like it? Reply #15 - May 9^th, 2012 at 7:22pm I don't have an issue in gay people having relationships etc and having it recognized. Where I draw the line is how they behave in public. I don't want to have my children subject to two guys holding hands and copping off in public. It's common decency.
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Reply #16 - May 9^th, 2012 at 7:22pm

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Sure - if I am in fact wrong.

But it's not lies that are silenced - It is inconvenient truths. Lies don't need to be silenced, they can just be disproven. But where cold hard facts don't fit the narrative, they must be suppressed.

http://takimag.com/article/10_hatefacts_for_those_who_hate_facts_gavin_mcinnes/p...

Freedom is the fredom to say that 2+2 = 4.

Haven't you just proven that you do have that freedom and no-one is taking it away from you? Freedom of speech is not the same thing as freedom from ridicule, or the right to demand respect for whatever silly thing you want to say.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Dont Like it? Reply #17 - May 9^th, 2012 at 7:25pm freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 7:22pm: Haven't you just proven that you do have that freedom and no-one is taking it away from you? Freedom of speech is not the same thing as freedom from ridicule. So you think people can speak the truth about anything, anywhere at any time?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49510 At my desk.	Re: Dont Like it? Reply #18 - May 9^th, 2012 at 7:31pm No. In some places you can get stoned to death for it. I hope this clears things up for you.
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Reply #19 - May 9^th, 2012 at 7:31pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 7:22pm:

I don't have an issue in gay people having relationships etc and having it recognized.

Where I draw the line is how they behave in public.

I don't want to have my children subject to two guys holding hands and copping off in public.
It's common decency.

Yeah. I dont like heteros doing that either. Dont think it should be against the law though.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49510 At my desk.	Re: Dont Like it? Reply #20 - May 9^th, 2012 at 7:35pm I have found that people often misinterpret what you are doing while holding hands and copping off in public.
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Reply #21 - May 9^th, 2012 at 7:38pm

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 7:31pm:

No. In some places you can get stoned to death for it.

I hope this clears things up for you.

yes, and in other places you can lose your job,and have your whole life ruined.

but that could never happen here.

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The Parramatta Sun controversy

In 2005, Andrew Fraser, an Associate Professor of law at Macquarie University, wrote a short letter to his local paper, the Parramatta Sun, protesting against the immigration of Somalians into Australia, stating that African migrants were known to be associated with high levels of violence.[1]

http://www.ironbarkresources.com/defendingfreespeech/dfs01freespeech.htm

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49510 At my desk.	Re: Dont Like it? Reply #22 - May 9^th, 2012 at 7:58pm Are you suggesting that your employer should not be able to hold you accountable for idiotic things you put out on the company letterhead?
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Dont Like it? Reply #23 - May 9^th, 2012 at 7:59pm freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 7:58pm: Are you suggesting that your employer should not be able to hold you accountable for idiotic things you put out on the company letterhead? You didnt read the story.
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Reply #24 - May 9^th, 2012 at 8:33pm

"But where cold hard facts don't fit the narrative, they must be suppressed.

http://takimag.com/article/10_hatefacts_for_those_who_hate_facts_gavin_mcinnes/p..."

Can't argue with that or I'll get shot. There were 2.41 facts per example, and the writer definitely has those opinions which mix with facts like communist economics. So sit down and listen how to be tolerant of what's right.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Dont Like it? Reply #26 - May 9^th, 2012 at 8:38pm But remeber people - we live in a free country. now repeat after me; we live in a free country we live in a free country we live in a free country we live in a free country we live in a free country
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Reply #27 - May 9^th, 2012 at 8:52pm

Our good friends across the tasman are not beyond the grasp of the thought police either.

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TAMPON maker Libra has apologised after its new ad was branded "outrageously transphobic" and caused a storm of controversy on social media websites.
In a statement issued tonight, Libra said it regrets any offence taken to the New Zealand television commercial, which implied transgender people are not real women because they don't menstruate.
"It was never intended to upset or offend anyone. Independent research was undertaken and the advertisement was viewed positively during that testing," the statement said.
"Libra takes all feedback very seriously, and in response to this, we will immediately review our future position with this campaign based on the feedback received.

http://www.news.com.au/business/drag-queen-tampon-ad-transphobic-claim/story-e6f...
Thank god we live in a free country.

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Reply #28 - May 9^th, 2012 at 9:22pm

... wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on May 9^th, 2012 at 7:58pm:

Are you suggesting that your employer should not be able to hold you accountable for idiotic things you put out on the company letterhead?

You didnt read the story. Cry

I had a look at the scan of the letter to the editor. It referenced his employer at the bottom. That is, he was using the credibility of his employer to bolster his position.

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Our good friends across the tasman are not beyond the grasp of the thought police either.

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TAMPON maker Libra has apologised after its new ad was branded "outrageously transphobic" and caused a storm of controversy on social media websites.
In a statement issued tonight, Libra said it regrets any offence taken to the New Zealand television commercial, which implied transgender people are not real women because they don't menstruate.
"It was never intended to upset or offend anyone. Independent research was undertaken and the advertisement was viewed positively during that testing," the statement said.
"Libra takes all feedback very seriously, and in response to this, we will immediately review our future position with this campaign based on the feedback received.

http://www.news.com.au/business/drag-queen-tampon-ad-transphobic-claim/story-e6f...
Thank god we live in a free country.

Can you explain this? Was Libra legally forced to issue a retraction? Or did it voluntarily retract the ads? You appear to be confusing freedom of speech with freedom from ridicule and consequence yet again. You cannot force people to keep purchasing Libra despite being offended by the company's ad. That has nothing to do with denial of freedom of speech. In fact it is a demonstration of free speech in action.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Dont Like it? Reply #29 - May 9^th, 2012 at 9:39pm I could sit here and post a million examples, it wouldn't make a difference.
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