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May 15^th, 2012 at 9:00am

Okay. I didnt even realise this was a topic or conspiracy or whatever until the other day when I saw some stuff in another thread. Can someone tell me what this is about?

I learned @ school that germans killed jews in germany. That was the war. My mother says her dad was a soldier in that war so theres some memory there - war did happen. Thats what I thought "holocaust denial" was that ppl were saying the war didnt happen.

Every war has propaganda. Remember Iraq war and the crap about them having WMDs and the association made by pollies and media of 11/9 with it.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Holocaust Reply #1 - May 15^th, 2012 at 9:39am Some people deny that many millions of Jews were in concentration camps and killed murdered y Nazis. This is even though so much evidence shows this happened. My grandparents from Czeska Republic were in Nazi camps and they are not liars. This is why it is a criminal offence in European countries to deny this holocaust happened.
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Reply #2 - May 15^th, 2012 at 9:50am

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:39am:

Some people deny that many millions of Jews were in concentration camps and killed murdered y Nazis.
This is even though so much evidence shows this happened.

My grandparents from Czeska Republic were in Nazi camps and they are not liars.

This is why it is a criminal offence in European countries to deny this holocaust happened.

You know the saying "methinks thou protest too much". I never doubted it until I saw that its illegal to deny it. Now I am starting to wonder. It is the zionist excuse for their atrocities afterall so they have a vested interest in it being "true".

Anyway I have this in the extremist section because I am hoping the ppl that have knowledge on both sides of this will discuss it civilly and I can maybe learn the 2 sides from it.

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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: Holocaust Reply #3 - May 15^th, 2012 at 9:52am Even if Jews were killed by Nazis, why did that become more important than the Gypsies killed by the Nazis, or the millions of Muslims killed by Stalin, the Bosnian Muslims killed by Serbs, the Christians killed in Rwanda, the 3 million killed by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia? Why do Jews have a monopoly on the guilt industry?
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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Holocaust Reply #4 - May 15^th, 2012 at 10:00am It is true. There is no reason to say it is not. You can not say it did not happen only because denial is illegal!!
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Reply #5 - May 15^th, 2012 at 6:55pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

It is true. There is no reason to say it is not.
You can not say it did not happen only because denial is illegal!!

Its not illegal here. I am asking what it is thats denied. There was a war. Jews were killed. What is being denied? I saw hints that the gas chambers were propaganda?

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Reply #6 - May 15^th, 2012 at 6:57pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 6:55pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

It is true. There is no reason to say it is not.
You can not say it did not happen only because denial is illegal!!

Its not illegal here. I am asking what it is thats denied. There was a war. Jews were killed. What is being denied? I saw hints that the gas chambers were propaganda?

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The jewish people were put in camps and exterminated by gas.
Nothing to relate with war.
That is denied by people and is illegal.

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Reply #7 - May 15^th, 2012 at 7:01pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 6:55pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

It is true. There is no reason to say it is not.
You can not say it did not happen only because denial is illegal!!

Its not illegal here. I am asking what it is thats denied. There was a war. Jews were killed. What is being denied? I saw hints that the gas chambers were propaganda?

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It is illegal in some countries. The question is why? Doesn't the evidence stand up to scrutiny?

Why is it not illegal to deny other massacres?

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Reply #8 - May 15^th, 2012 at 7:04pm

falah wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 6:55pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

It is true. There is no reason to say it is not.
You can not say it did not happen only because denial is illegal!!

Its not illegal here. I am asking what it is thats denied. There was a war. Jews were killed. What is being denied? I saw hints that the gas chambers were propaganda?

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It is illegal in some countries. The question is why? Doesn't the evidence stand up to scrutiny?

Why is it not illegal to deny other massacres?

Yeah thats a good question. Maybe. If you cant answer mine you wont know the answer to yours though. Perhaps someone else will enlighten us.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Holocaust Reply #9 - May 15^th, 2012 at 7:17pm There is no discussion to have on deniers of the holocaust. They are right wing nazis and anti Semites.
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Reply #11 - May 15^th, 2012 at 7:30pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 7:23pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 7:17pm:

There is no discussion to have on deniers of the holocaust.
They are right wing nazis and anti Semites.

That is not an answer.

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That is the answer you are receiving. In Israel you will go to prison for five years if you deny the holocaust.
There is nothing to deny. Only hatred and anti semitism to make trouble.

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Reply #12 - May 15^th, 2012 at 7:33pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 7:30pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 7:23pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 7:17pm:

There is no discussion to have on deniers of the holocaust.
They are right wing nazis and anti Semites.

That is not an answer.

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That is the answer you are receiving. In Israel you will go to prison for five years if you deny the holocaust.
There is nothing to deny. Only hatred and anti semitism to make trouble.

Well. I am not denying "the holocaust". I am asking about it. What is it that ppl are denying about it? What do ppl think didnt happen?

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Reply #13 - May 15^th, 2012 at 7:49pm

falah wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 6:55pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

It is true. There is no reason to say it is not.
You can not say it did not happen only because denial is illegal!!

Its not illegal here. I am asking what it is thats denied. There was a war. Jews were killed. What is being denied? I saw hints that the gas chambers were propaganda?

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It is illegal in some countries. The question is why? Doesn't the evidence stand up to scrutiny?

Why is it not illegal to deny other massacres?

Well, it is compulsory in Turkey to deny the Armenian genocide.

Anyway, just because holocaust denial is illegal in some countries doesn't make the holocaust any less real. It is a stupid law to haul idiots to court for saying idiotic things such as 'the holocaust didn't happen' or 'if it happened it was a Jewish plot' or any of such crap. But such an idiotic law doesn't diminish the magnitude and significance of the holocaust.

Just for clarity, the 6 million Jews perished in the holocaust' is NOT about 6 million gassed and cremated. It is about 6 million systematically killed, one way or another.

There has not been a comparable attempt in history where a particular group has been targeted across international borders, systematically and on an industrial scale, as a matter of policy. It was a pogrom or massacre on a much greater scale than anything else.

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Reply #14 - May 16^th, 2012 at 8:14am

Soren wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 7:49pm:

falah wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 7:01pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 6:55pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:00am:

It is true. There is no reason to say it is not.
You can not say it did not happen only because denial is illegal!!

Its not illegal here. I am asking what it is thats denied. There was a war. Jews were killed. What is being denied? I saw hints that the gas chambers were propaganda?

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It is illegal in some countries. The question is why? Doesn't the evidence stand up to scrutiny?

Why is it not illegal to deny other massacres?

Well, it is compulsory in Turkey to deny the Armenian genocide.

Anyway, just because holocaust denial is illegal in some countries doesn't make the holocaust any less real. It is a stupid law to haul idiots to court for saying idiotic things such as 'the holocaust didn't happen' or 'if it happened it was a Jewish plot' or any of such crap. But such an idiotic law doesn't diminish the magnitude and significance of the holocaust.

Just for clarity, the 6 million Jews perished in the holocaust' is NOT about 6 million gassed and cremated. It is about 6 million systematically killed, one way or another.

There has not been a comparable attempt in history where a particular group has been targeted across international borders, systematically and on an industrial scale, as a matter of policy. It was a pogrom or massacre on a much greater scale than anything else.

I have read that some claim it wasnt 6 million. It was more likely around 1 million. There is always propaganda in wars and history is written by the victors. Thing is the zionists are using it as an excuse so of course they dont like denial.

Since nobody has answered my questions I googled it. The thing that is being "denied" is not the war itself but the gas chambers.

Now I remember seeing things on tv about hitler. They are on all the time. He was trying to exterminate everyone that was not white with blue eyes etc. He wasnt after the jews in particular but non-arians. Thats why the "nazi party" ppl nowadays are racist buggers.

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