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Question: Did the "holocaust" happen just like the jews say it did?



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Reply #60 - May 21st, 2012 at 12:33pm
 
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 8:52am:
Actually that American girl is an example to all Palestinians


Innocent Palestinians are being killed, imprisoned, brutalised by Zionist Jews everyday.

This woman only gets some attention in the racist West because she was a blonde American.
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Reply #61 - May 21st, 2012 at 6:16pm
 
Falah, can you give an example of a Muslim killed under the same circumstances? My guess is you will merely demonstrate your inability to grasp what this woman did differently.
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Reply #62 - May 21st, 2012 at 7:52pm
 
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 6:16pm:
Falah, can you give an example of a Muslim killed under the same circumstances? My guess is you will merely demonstrate your inability to grasp what this woman did differently.



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Israeli troops kill unarmed Palestinian protesters on borders


Israeli soldiers yesterday killed at least fifteen Palestinians and wounded many more as they suppressed protests held at border posts facing Syria, Lebanon, and Gaza to mark the 63rd anniversary of the founding of the Zionist state.

This latest massacre of Palestinian civilians inflicted by the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) again demonstrates the Israeli government’s brazenly unlawful operations. The situation also exposes the Obama administration’s “humanitarian” pretext for the bombardment of Libya.

NATO’s war is supposedly necessary to protect unarmed civilians from the possibility of being killed by government forces—but Washington raises no objections to the murderous activities of its closest ally in the Middle East, which it arms and finances to the tune of billions of dollars each year.

The exact death toll from yesterday’s demonstrations remains unclear, with differing numbers provided by various media outlets. According to the Associated Press, Lebanese security officials reported that ten people were killed on the Lebanese side of the border fence. One person was shot dead by an Israeli sniper in Gaza. Others were killed in Israeli-occupied Golan Heights when a crowd of unarmed protesters broke through the demarcation fence with Syria and marched into the village of Majdal Shams.

May 15 marks the anniversary of Israel’s establishment in 1948, but for the Palestinian people it is commemorated as “the catastrophe,” or al-Naqba. The Zionist state was founded through a terror campaign triggering one of the largest forced migrations in modern history. An estimated 700,000 Palestinians were expelled or fled their homes, and their property was expropriated. Denied the right to return ever since, there are now about 4.5 million refugees and their descendents in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and the occupied territories.

Thousands of refugees and their supporters protested around the world yesterday, coordinated through social networking Internet sites. Young Palestinians were especially inspired by the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt and other Arab countries.

Within the occupied territories, tens of thousands took to the streets, many holding keys of their family homes lost in 1948. Israel yesterday imposed a 24-hour shutdown across the West Bank, closing the various crossings and checkpoints.

There were clashes between protesters and Israeli troops in Hebron, Wallajeh and Jerusalem, while at Gaza’s Erez border crossing at least 15 unarmed civilians were wounded by Israeli gunfire. The IDF fired what it described as “warning shots,” including tank shells and machine gun bullets aimed at open fields adjacent to the protest. One Palestinian, alleged by Israeli authorities to have been planting a bomb, was shot dead.

In Egypt, thousands protested outside the Israeli embassy. More than 100 were injured when Egyptian security forces fired tear gas and rubber-coated steel bullets after an attempt was allegedly made to storm the building. Al Jazeera reported that at least 20 people were arrested.

The worst of the violence occurred outside the southern Lebanese village of Maroun al-Ras, where thousands of people gathered at a border fence. Protesters reportedly hung flags on the barbed wire and sang songs, with some young people throwing rocks across the border, before both Israeli and Lebanese soldiers began firing. Lebanese forces initially fired warning shots, though it remains unclear whether they also fired into the crowd. Israeli forces were reportedly responsible for those killed.

The violence was the worst inflicted on Lebanon since Israel’s 2006 invasion of the country.

Those killed yesterday on the Syrian border were the victims of an Israeli operation to retake the village of Majdal Shams. According to one report, of the 200 protesters who crossed the border waving flags and placards, more than 100 were wounded in the Israeli offensive, demonstrating an indiscriminate use of force.

Before the attack, villagers had welcomed the protesters, with the Independent reporting that “local residents greeted the infiltrators like heroes, joining them as they marched towards the main square singing and waving Palestinian flags.”

One of the protesters, Muhammad Umran, 35, from the Yarmouk refugee camp in Syria’s capital Damascus, spoke with the Washington Post. “We cannot put up with this anymore,” he explained. “We are demanding our right of return. We are not afraid.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu openly defended the violence. “I instructed the Israel Defence Forces to act with maximum restraint but to prevent any infiltration into our borders,” he declared. “Everyone should know that we are determined to protect our borders and our sovereignty.” Defence Minister Ehud Barak likewise insisted: “The IDF must protect the sovereignty of Israel and it succeeded in doing so.”

In reality, Israel invaded Syria’s Golan Heights in 1967 and later illegally annexed the territory. Its “sovereignty” over the area is not internationally recognised.

The Netanyahu government and Israel Defence Forces have also alleged that the Naqba protests were “provocations” which bore “the fingerprints of Iran.” The Syrian government and Lebanon’s Hezbollah were also accused.

“The Syrian regime is intentionally attempting to divert international attention away from the brutal crackdown of their own citizens to incite against Israel,” Israeli military spokeswoman Lieutenant Colonel Avital Leibovich claimed.

These allegations are consistent with the Israeli government’s typical response to crises—to ratchet up tensions and beat the drum for war with Iran.

It remains unclear how the Israeli military was overpowered on the Syrian border by a relatively small group of unarmed demonstrators. Protests for the Naqba anniversary were publicly prepared, and security officials in Israel were on high alert. Days earlier, one military official cited in the Israeli media explained: “We don’t want to be surprised or improvise a response at the last moment.”

Yet only a small number of Israeli troops were stationed at one of the key Syrian border checkpoints. The question must be raised as to whether elements within the Israeli state and military ordered forces to be stood down in order to create the conditions for a violent crackdown and a campaign of fear and hysteria about a supposed threat to Israel’s sovereignty.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/may2011/isra-m16.shtml



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Twenty Palestinian protesters killed and 325 wounded as Israeli forces open fire in border clash


About 20 pro-Palestinian demonstrators were killed and 325 injured yesterday when Israeli forces opened fire on them as they crossed the border from Syria into occupied territories, according to reports.

Syrian state television said the protesters died as they crossed into Golan Heights, occupied by Israel since the 1967 Six Day War.

The demonstrators descended from a hilltop overlooking the village of Majdal Shams towards the disputed border.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/05/article-1394480-0C6B60CC00000578-888_6...
Demonstrators flee from Israeli army teargas as they gather along Syria's border in a clash today

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/05/article-1394480-0C6A825500000578-761_6...
Target: Israeli soldiers aiming their weapons today along Syria's border with Israel as demonstrators tried to cut through a line of barbed wire and head into the Israeli-annexed Golan Heights

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/05/article-1394480-0C6A825D00000578-414_6...
Border alert: Israeli soldiers ready to open fire on the Palestinian protesters as they approach the barbed wire

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/05/article-1394480-0C69860800000578-290_6...
Demonstration: Syrian and Palestinians unfurl a flag near Israel's barbed wire border fence today

Israeli soldiers had shouted ‘anyone who tries to cross the border will be killed’ before opening fire, it was reported. The country’s chief military spokesman, Brigadier-General Yoav Mordechai, said troops had opened fire but he could not confirm any casualties.

Israel had been on high alert yesterday – the 44th anniversary of the Middle East war, when Israel captured Golan Heights from Syria – after thousands of Palestinian protesters stormed its borders last month.

Several dozen demonstrators had gathered in an anti-tank ditch facing the Israeli frontier. They waved flags, shouted slogans and threw stones.

The protests began around 11am with what appeared to be several dozen youths, brought in on buses. It gained strength through the day.

By evening, the crowd had swelled to more than 1,000 people, who milled about, prayed and chanted slogans in an uneasy stand-off with Israeli troops in the distance. The army bolstered its positions, posting a dozen armored vehicles and Jeeps along the border road.

A small group of youths managed to cut through a recently fortified coil of barbed-wire and took up positions in a trench inside a buffer zone about 20 yards from a final border fence.

Israeli troops periodically opened fire at young activists jumping into the ditch, sending puffs of soil flying into the air...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394480/Golan-Heights-20-Palestinian-pro...




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Reply #63 - May 21st, 2012 at 8:33pm
 
Did the American woman cross the border?
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Reply #64 - May 21st, 2012 at 8:54pm
 
Threatening the border is stupid and illegal.

Arabs usually send their children up to this to throw rocks to us.
Why don't they do themselves?
Because Arabs are cowards.
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Reply #65 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:15pm
 
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 8:33pm:
Did the American woman cross the border?


She did not cross an internationally recognised border. Neither did the protestors.

According to the UN, they were still in Syrian territory.

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Reply #66 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:29pm
 
Israel occupies Golan. I have been this very place for the army in my national service.
We have Golan since we were unprovoked attacked by Arab aggressors.
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Reply #67 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:35pm
 
Nabi Saleh protester dies from wounds


Mustafa Tamimi, 28, died this morning at Belinson Hospital after sustaining critical wounds yesterday in the village of Nabi Saleh when an Israeli soldier fired a tear gas canister directly at his head from a short distance.

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Two people console each other after the day’s tragedy

Nabi Saleh, a small Palestinian village near Ramallah, has had much of its land appropriated by the neighboring Jewish settlement of Halamish. After a critical water well was taken by settlers two years ago, local residents of Nabi Saleh began organizing non-violent protests.

**PERSONAL NOTE

Anyone that has ever spent time in Nabi Saleh on Fridays understands the almost personal nature of what happens there. The Tamimi family and the activists that go to support them in their struggle to defend their land are almost always the same core group of people, and the soldiers from the nearby barracks are generally the same as well. Each recognize each other because of their weekly interaction. Every member of the Tamimi family is well known by the Israeli military stationed in the area, and those soldiers who torment and harass them. Acts such as the one that transpired with the malicious killing of Mustafa Tamimi can be viewed as purposeful, at least by the soldier that pulled the trigger. Either targeted at the individual or to break the back of a family that has endured every trial and tribulation to preserve their land and rights, people should understand the personal nature of the death of Mustafa Tamimi, the arrest of Bassem Tamimi, the constant night raids, the arrest and violent interrogation of children, and the whole orchestra of abuse directed at these people.

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Reply #68 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:39pm
 
Jewish settlers 'kill Palestinian girl'


Jewish settlers shot dead a Palestinian girl while attacking homes in the West Bank city of Hebron today after the funeral of an Israeli soldier killed in a roadside ambush, Palestinian witnesses said.

Eight-year-old Neveen Jamjoum was shot while sitting just inside the doorway of her house, her mother said. Palestinian medical sources said nine Palestinians were wounded by gunfire.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-130282/Jewish-settlers-kill-Palestinian-...

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Reply #69 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:42pm
 
Collective punishment: An Israeli tank rolls through the rubble of a Palestinian apartment house in Jenin, April 13, 2002, in the course of Israeli attacks on civilian homes in Jenin, part of the Zionist policy of collective punishment of "Amalek" -- the entire Palestinian nation

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April 17 2002: Red Cross workers cover the remains of a Palestinian woman killed by Israeli soldiers in the Jenin refugee camp

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April 15 2002: Neighbors extract the body of a Palestinian woman, Zoha Ifreiteh, from the rubble of her bulldozed home, after discovering the body of her sister, Rasha, yesterday. The two sisters were killed by the Israelis on April 3, in Nablus.



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Palestinian youths sit atop the rubble that was once their house, surveying the destruction wrought by Israeli bombardment of civilian centers in the West Bank city of Nablus, April 11, 2002



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Pathologists examine the body of a six-year-old Palestinian girl, Somaeah Hassan, who was killed by Israeli soldiers in the Rafah refugee camp, in the Gaza ghetto, April 6, 2002. Israeli soldiers pummeled the refugee camp, killing this six-year-old Palestinian child, a 21-year-old civilian and wounding six others, including four Palestinian schoolgirls.



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Palestinian doctors in a hospital in Hebron, treat eight-year-old Palestinian Ahmed Srayer, who was severely burned in an attack by an Israeli helicopter gunship, April 5, 2002



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An Israeli army stun grenade explodes next to a TV cameraman attempting to report events in Ramallah, April 5, 2002


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An Israeli cop beats a human rights activist, part of a contingent who tried to to deliver food and medical supplies to besieged Palestinian civilians in Ramallah, April 3


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A Palestinian survivor, Sami Abda, sits next to the bodies of his brother Jacoub, 37, and his mother Sumaya, 64, after they were shot to death in their Bethlehem home by Israeli soldiers, April 2, 2002



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Jews gas Arab civilians and medics, Ramallah, April 3, 2002



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Australian woman, Kate Edwards, 26,  is prepared for surgery after being shot by Israeli soldier





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Reply #70 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:45pm
 
Arabs are cowards. Tell me why do they run away from us like scared children?
Throw rocks and run away.

In Cast Lead they ran away from me.
Tell me where are your heroes when we come for them?
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Reply #71 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:49pm
 
I am not asking you who recognised the border Falah, but whether it existed.

A mob rushing a border into a heavily militarised disputed territory is hardly the same thing as what this American woman did. For some reason the example she set is wasted on Muslims. Maybe she died in vain.
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Reply #72 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:50pm
 
freediver wrote on May 21st, 2012 at 9:49pm:
I am not asking you who recognised the border Falah, but whether it was there.


Perhaps you could solve Australia's refugee problem Freeliar? Why doesn't Australia just do like Israel and shoot anyone approaching the borders?
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Reply #73 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:51pm
 
Australian says she was shot without warning


April 2 2002

A young Australian woman today said she was shot at without warning by Israeli troops as she held her hands in the air during a peaceful protest in the Middle East.

The woman, who identified herself to Channel Nine as Kate Edwards, 26, was wounded by shrapnel when Israeli troops fired on a West Bank protest in the township of Beit Jala.

The woman, named by another news outlet at Kate Irving, said she was one of six foreigners from the peace group Solidarity International hit when they approached an Israeli armoured personnel carrier while taking part in the demonstration.

Speaking from hospital in Bethlehem, where she underwent surgery overnight, she said the group had been confronted by the armoured vehicle as they walked up a hill towards Israeli positions.

"There started to be sounds of banging, which we thought at first were percussion grenades, which they just use to shock people," she told the Nine Network.

"We started to back off slowly, walking back slowly so that noone got scared or tripped and injured themselves in any way.

"Many of us were holding our hands in the air."

But she said when the group got to a point where the road narrowed they were forced to pause, and the armoured vehicle opened fire.

"I was in the front and I had my hands in the air," Ms Edwards said.

"Then I heard another bang and I felt a pain in my middle, and I just assumed I'd been hit by a percussion grenade, but it turns out that I was actually shot."

She said the group heard no verbal warning from the soldiers, although shots could have been fired in the air.

"There was nothing clear that they weren't just going to be happy with us just backing away," she said.

She said she was now recovering and would not be taking part in any more demonstrations while in Israel.

"I won't be getting into any more dangerous situations while I'm here, because I'll be resting up," Ms Edwards said.

A Frenchman, 54, was hit in the head during the incident. Two Britons, two Americans and a Japanese person were also slightly injured, while a Palestinian was wounded while working as a cameraman for Associated Press Television (APTV).

Israeli officials had no immediate comment and said they were investigating the shooting.

Newsweek journalist Samir Zedan, who was present during the incident, said the protest had been peaceful and watchers did not understand why the Israelis had opened fire.

Jerome Lallemand, an activist for the group International Civic Campaign for the Protection of the Palestinian People who also witnessed the incident, said about 60 people were demonstrating in support of the Palestinians.

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Reply #74 - May 21st, 2012 at 9:53pm
 
A mob rushing a border into a heavily militarised disputed territory is hardly the same thing as what this American woman did. For some reason the example she set is lost on Muslims. Maybe she died in vain.
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