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Reply #90 - May 17th, 2012 at 1:54pm
 
Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:49am:
Soren wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:31pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 5:31pm:
Well there only seems to be a few options

Does Tnoy’s rules for others apply to himself? (ridiculous to suggest they should)

Can the conservatives spin it to look like a difference exists where it clearly doesn’t?

Are tnoy and co + their supporters hypocrites of the worst order? (consistent with their history).

I would think there are good reasons for not shortcutting the trial process to establish guilt or you can end up looking as incompetent dishonest mean spirited and opportunistic as Tnoy Abbnott does now.

By his own standard (or more accurately lack of) he has to stand aside, Impaled by his own petard



This is unsurprisingly ridiculous. By your reckoning if anyone is accused of defamation he should immediately stand down from is job the moment the papers are lodged with a court official.





How can your comprehension be that poor I do not think either should have been stood down.

This is Tnoy Abbnott's view on Slipper which now should be applied to himself.

The problem is that this is the standard that Tnoy has demanded be applied to others.

Its not what I think at all - Tnoy hoisted by his own petard.



There is a formal police investigation of Slippers' cabcharge misuse and a workplace harassment case against him and the Commonwealth as the employer of both Slipper and Ashby
There is a formal police investigation into Thompson's credit card fraud.
Police involvement = criminal investigation.

The Abbott issue, by contrast, is a civil dispute about a repeatedly convicted person's reputation and whether it can be further damaged, considering he is annointed to be the boss of the Victorian CFMEU (nee Brickies' Labourers). No police will ever be involved as it is not a criminal matter.

SO on the one hand we have two criminal investigations and a workplace harassment case, and on the other, a civil dispute about how low a convicted union heavy's reputation can sink.



Are you progs telling me that you do not see any difference?

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Reply #91 - May 17th, 2012 at 1:57pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:24pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:09pm:
Well? Has he stood aside yet?

SOB

Has Gillard asked him to step aside because of this?


I dont know. Was slipper asked to step aside? I thought he did it off his own bat. Why doesnt abbott just do the right thing without being asked?

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Reply #92 - May 17th, 2012 at 3:49pm
 
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I dont know. Was slipper asked to step aside? I thought he did it off his own bat. Why doesnt abbott just do the right thing without being asked?

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Abbott won't stand aside - he has one rule for everyone else, and another rule for himself.

He is a hypocrite through and through.

And interestingly enough, who is paying for Abbott's legal defence?

According to Michelle Grattan, Abbott is receiving pro bono legal assistance from Arnold Bloch Leibler.

Hmmmm.

Lawyers generally don't like to do ANYTHING for free, so isn't it interesting that Kathy Jackson, James Ashby and now Abbott are all receiving pro bono legal representation.

Suspicious?  Perhaps.

But why can't Abbott pay for it himself?

Why is he relying on handouts - and more importantly - what do they expect in return?
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Reply #93 - May 17th, 2012 at 5:16pm
 
Why is there no more of this in the news? SLipper and thompson get coverage every day. Abbotts transgression is instantly forgotten? Friggin media bias . . .

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Reply #94 - May 17th, 2012 at 5:41pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 5:16pm:
Why is there no more of this in the news? SLipper and thompson get coverage every day. Abbotts transgression is instantly forgotten? Friggin media bias . . .

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Absolutely - particularly in the Murdoch media where Abbott is virtually untouchable, printing his lies as if they were the truth and never questioning Abbott's statements.

Almost every single day Abbott lies to the media and to the Australian people and yet, the gullible swallow it up as if it were fact.
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Reply #95 - May 17th, 2012 at 5:54pm
 
Soren wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:54pm:
There is a formal police investigation of Slippers' cabcharge misuse and a workplace harassment case against him and the Commonwealth as the employer of both Slipper and Ashby

think they already concluded that the cabcharge was rubbish



There is a formal police investigation into Thompson's credit card fraud.
Police involvement = criminal investigation.
nothing to do with Thompson


The Abbott issue, by contrast, is a civil dispute about a repeatedly convicted person's reputation and whether it can be further damaged, considering he is annointed to be the boss of the Victorian CFMEU (nee Brickies' Labourers). No police will ever be involved as it is not a criminal matter.

SO on the one hand we have two criminal investigations and a workplace harassment case, and on the other, a civil dispute about how low a convicted union heavy's reputation can sink.



Are you progs telling me that you do not see any difference?




All lame excuses - in other words you got nothing.

Just defending the leader at all costs.
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Reply #96 - May 17th, 2012 at 6:33pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:24pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:09pm:
Well? Has he stood aside yet?

SOB

Has Gillard asked him to step aside because of this?


FOOL! It isn't up to Gillard. SHE doesn't pick the leader of the opposition. THE OPPOSITION DOES.

JULIE BISHOP should be demanding he stand aside! Why is that not happening? If Tony's rules don't apply to Tony, they should NOT apply to anyone else.

Tony must stand aside or else Slipper must return.

Even the stupidest righty should be able to understand that.
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Reply #97 - May 17th, 2012 at 6:40pm
 
Soren wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:54pm:
There is a formal police investigation of Slippers' cabcharge misuse and a workplace harassment case against him and the Commonwealth as the employer of both Slipper and Ashby
There is a formal police investigation into Thompson's credit card fraud.
Police involvement = criminal investigation.

The Abbott issue, by contrast, is a civil dispute about a repeatedly convicted person's reputation and whether it can be further damaged, considering he is annointed to be the boss of the Victorian CFMEU (nee Brickies' Labourers). No police will ever be involved as it is not a criminal matter.

SO on the one hand we have two criminal investigations and a workplace harassment case, and on the other, a civil dispute about how low a convicted union heavy's reputation can sink.



Are you progs telling me that you do not see any difference?



Sexual harrassment is a civil charge, so no different to Abbott's case. And Ashby is dropping his charges of misuse of Cabcharge dockets, so you can bet that was never going to fly.

And none of this has anything to do with Thomson.

Three strikes. You're OUT! You lose Soren.
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Reply #98 - May 17th, 2012 at 6:45pm
 
The mob stormed the castle and there was nothing there  Grin
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Reply #99 - May 17th, 2012 at 7:45pm
 
adelcrow wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 6:45pm:
The mob stormed the castle and there was nothing there  Grin


But all the shouting was fun.  Smiley
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Reply #100 - May 17th, 2012 at 9:11pm
 
PhonyTonyAbbott wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 5:41pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 5:16pm:
Why is there no more of this in the news? SLipper and thompson get coverage every day. Abbotts transgression is instantly forgotten? Friggin media bias . . .

SOB


Absolutely - particularly in the Murdoch media where Abbott is virtually untouchable, printing his lies as if they were the truth and never questioning Abbott's statements.

Almost every single day Abbott lies to the media and to the Australian people and yet, the gullible swallow it up as if it were fact.



There is nothing to report because Labor is lying doggo on this. Why? because they know, even if you progs don't realise it, that this is much worse news for Labor and the unions than Abbott and the Libs.

Everything they might say against Abbot in this case in defence the union heavy will be taken down and used against them. That's why they are silent. There is absolutely nothing they can say that would not backfire.

But you ijits keep thinking th soilence is due to some friggin' directive from Rupert. As if he would issue directive, especially in the middle of the British media enquiry.







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Reply #101 - May 17th, 2012 at 9:13pm
 
Shurely shome mishtake.
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Reply #102 - May 17th, 2012 at 9:21pm
 
Gist wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 6:40pm:
And Ashby is dropping his charges of misuse of Cabcharge dockets, so you can bet that was never going to fly.

And none of this has anything to do with Thomson.

Three strikes. You're OUT! You lose Soren.



Ashby has dropped the cab charge accusation from his civil case because thy are criminal allegations and a formal police investigation has already started into them. There is now no point in his clogging up his own civil case with criminal issues that the police have already well in hand and will prosecute regardless of is civil case.
The main reason both Stinking up the place is their misuse of commonwealth and union funds. Fraud, in other words.
For a married Speaker to hound a staffer for homo sex is normal behaviour only around Darlinghurst. Hollingsworth was chased out of the GGship for a whole lot less. In such positions appearances and perceptions matter very much.

For a liberal politician to hint at union thuggery is what everyone would expect and there is nothing in it for Abbott to worry about. If he loses the case, it would be an even more massive political win for him than if he won it.

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Reply #103 - May 17th, 2012 at 9:27pm
 
Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 5:54pm:
All lame excuses - in other words you got nothing.

Just defending the leader at all costs.



You mean you don't understand the differences.

News yesterday:
"We believe it is important that the formal criminal investigation into Mr Slipper, previously announced by the AFP, be allowed to proceed independently of the civil action being taken by Mr Ashby," Mr Ashby's spokesman, Anthony McClellan said in a statement on Tuesday.

Mr Ashby is assisting police, as a witness, in their criminal investigation.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/ashby-drops-peter-slipper-taxi-cla...

It's actually happening, Reggie,  it is actually happening.

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Reply #104 - May 18th, 2012 at 6:48am
 
PhonyTonyAbbott wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 3:49pm:
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I dont know. Was slipper asked to step aside? I thought he did it off his own bat. Why doesnt abbott just do the right thing without being asked?

SOB


Abbott won't stand aside - he has one rule for everyone else, and another rule for himself.

He is a hypocrite through and through.

And interestingly enough, who is paying for Abbott's legal defence?

According to Michelle Grattan, Abbott is receiving pro bono legal assistance from Arnold Bloch Leibler.

Hmmmm.

Lawyers generally don't like to do ANYTHING for free, so isn't it interesting that Kathy Jackson, James Ashby and now Abbott are all receiving pro bono legal representation.

Suspicious?  Perhaps.

But why can't Abbott pay for it himself?

Why is he relying on handouts - and more importantly - what do they expect in return?


At last, a left sock. I didn't ever think I was going to make a pair.

As far as they want in return, may I suggest, a muzzle might be the gift of choice.
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