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Ashby case collapsing
May 18th, 2012 at 9:06am
 
The cabcharge accusations have now been withdrawn, and the rest of the case is he said she said, this will fail. It will also damage the lying Libs more than the gov. This was a lie hatched between Pyne and Ashby, and Pyne should resign,as should phony Tony when it is proven he was also involved. I said all along this was phony Tony's Grech moment and today's news enforces that.

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COMMONWEALTH lawyers have cast doubts on the motives of James Ashby, the staffer who accused Peter Slipper of sexual harassment and rorting taxi expenses, saying his case appears designed to maximise media coverage and that there was no initial attempt at conciliation.

In a statement filed in the Federal Court last night, the lawyers say there were ''a number of ways'' for Mr Ashby to settle his grievances with Mr Slipper and they dispute his claim he had to go straight to the court because the matter was ''urgent''.

The statement said he made no attempt to warn Mr Slipper, any other federal employee or any relevant government department that he intended to commence proceedings seeking damages for breach of contract.



It said he filed an application unsupported by affidavit or statement of claim at 4.30pm on April 20, and it was the first time Mr Slipper knew of complaints.

Lawyers suggest the story was given to the tabloids at the same time or soon after to enable it to be splashed all over the front page the next day and put online.

They also point out that when Mr Ashby withdrew the claims of Cabcharge misuse this week, the media were informed before Mr Slipper.

The lawyers responded on the same day that Mr Ashby lodged a separate complaint in the Australian Human Rights Commission against the Foreign Minster, Bob Carr, and the Nationals Senator Barnaby Joyce for questioning the authenticity of his claims.

Neither Senator Joyce nor Senator Carr was perturbed. Senator Joyce said he was not taking sides and Mr Ashby ''can do what he likes''.

Through his lawyers, Mr Ashby said senators Carr and Joyce ''should leave it to the court to pass judgment'' on Mr Ashby's allegations and ''should not use their high office to demean our client for their political ends or otherwise''.

Early this month, Senator Carr implied Mr Ashby's claims were politically motivated. He tweeted ''This Ashby seems more rehearsed than a Kabuki actor''.

In an interview with the Herald, Senator Joyce cast doubt on Mr Ashby's bona fides after it emerged he met three times with Mr Slipper's sworn political enemy, the former Howard government minister Mal Brough.

Senator Joyce said if Mr Brough was ''going to play marriage guidance counsellor'', he should have heard both sides of the story before advising Mr Ashby on what action to take.

He said Mr Ashby ''seems only slightly less dodgy than Slipper''


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/ashbys-motives-over-slipper-allegations-dubious-say-lawyers-20120517-1ytnw.html#ixzz1vAe73xWZ
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Reply #1 - May 18th, 2012 at 9:17am
 
Heh when the bottom is reached everything will go back to normal and nobody in the libs will answer anything.

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Reply #2 - May 18th, 2012 at 9:29am
 
Falling apart, it seems the same that it ever was. The article is all speculation and changes nothing.

Maybe you put the wrong information up skip.
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Reply #3 - May 18th, 2012 at 9:32am
 
so he has dropped the cabcharges because they come under a different heading...to his sexual harassment case.. they cant be tied in together..


as for the other claims he should have done this and he could have done that..


is it LAW that one goes through these processes first.. or else your case is null and void???

I have asked this on another thread..

I am interested as the D.J.s harassment case is still fresh in my mind..and I dont see where there should be on e rule for the peasants and one for pollies..

after all we have no idea what stress this young man was under..and to say there are all these avenues out there!!!


.... what about whistleblowers???? I have read of some terrible things that have happened to them once they go to the so called top.
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Reply #4 - May 18th, 2012 at 10:10am
 
He withdrew the cab charge accusation from his civil case because the police have launched a criminal investigation. The charges haven't gone away - they are being handled by police.

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The fact the Cabcharge allegations were raised in Mr Ashby's originating application has already prompted the Australian Federal Police to launch an investigation into the use of travel entitlements by Mr Slipper, the Speaker of federal Parliament, which could still result in separate criminal charges.

In a statement last night Mr Ashby's media adviser said ''by continuing to include the Cabcharge issues in the civil action, once a formal criminal investigation is underway, could be detrimental to Mr Ashby's civil claim, by significantly delaying it until the conclusion of the potential criminal matters''.


That was 2 days ago. SO the cab charges are still being under criminal investigation by police.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/cabcharge-claims-cut-from-slipper-civil-lawsuit-20120515-1yp2w.html#ixzz1vAvB6OWr
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Reply #5 - May 18th, 2012 at 12:30pm
 
I still didnt get what the cab charge had to do with Ashbys civil case, as Ashby was not affect by it.

It was done to gain additional media attention.
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Reply #6 - May 18th, 2012 at 12:37pm
 
I don't think that it is, skippy. He has only dropped the cab charge accusations, nothing else. I wish that people would have some more compassion for the young man. We don't know what he's suffered, and he may be really depressed and distraught. Shame on Carr and Joyce for their insensitive comments.
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Reply #7 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:12pm
 
john_g wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:37pm:
I don't think that it is, skippy. He has only dropped the cab charge accusations, nothing else. I wish that people would have some more compassion for the young man. We don't know what he's suffered, and he may be really depressed and distraught. Shame on Carr and Joyce for their insensitive comments.


Poor lad was so distressed and distraught that he said nothing to anyone. Then ran off to his employer's opponents to tell them his sob story. Poor lad. So distraught that he just HAD to tell the media first before anyone else all about his troubles.

If I was having an issue, that's where I'd go to get it sorted, I'm sure. The media. Yep, no question about it.  Angry
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Reply #8 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:18pm
 
john_g wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:37pm:
I don't think that it is, skippy. He has only dropped the cab charge accusations, nothing else. I wish that people would have some more compassion for the young man. We don't know what he's suffered, and he may be really depressed and distraught. Shame on Carr and Joyce for their insensitive comments.


Oh please, compassion for this person , you're kidding right?
It seems Ashby is not all he claims, there are stories similar to this appearing about him regularly.

http://www.vexnews.com/2012/05/life-of-the-party-james-ashby-accused-of-procuring-unwitting-young-men-for-hiv-positive-millionaire-mate-for-pleasure-palace-partying/
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progressiveslol wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:29am:
Falling apart, it seems the same that it ever was. The article is all speculation and changes nothing.

Maybe you put the wrong information up skip.

No speculation,just facts that the Libs have been busted lying their arses off again. Slipper has already released the cab charge dockets from that time,so nothing there. All just a beat up,and you rightards are proving what conniving trash you are. As for the civil case, its all he said she said, with Ashby the obvious SHE in this case. Not to mention Ashby is on record as flirting with Slipper on those mobile calls, its a lovers tiff gone wrong, if you rightards want to have Slipper kicked out for being a closet gay you'd best kick out Pyne and phony Tony with him. Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:35pm
 
john_g wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:37pm:
I don't think that it is, skippy. He has only dropped the cab charge accusations, nothing else. I wish that people would have some more compassion for the young man. We don't know what he's suffered, and he may be really depressed and distraught. Shame on Carr and Joyce for their insensitive comments.


the murdoch media said last night that he dropped the sexual harassment as well. Who knows if thats the case though.

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Reply #11 - May 18th, 2012 at 2:56pm
 
Unlikely, SOB. The case is underway today...
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Reply #12 - May 18th, 2012 at 3:33pm
 
Gist and Scope - who knows what goes through the mind of a sexual harassment victim? I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Do you care to explain?

Skippy - I didn't see any flirtation from Ashby in those texts, what did you see?

I am not being partisan on this issue, I think that Joyce was insensitive in his comments as well. I just want to see justice done. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Reply #13 - May 18th, 2012 at 3:37pm
 
skippy. wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 1:30pm:
progressiveslol wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:29am:
Falling apart, it seems the same that it ever was. The article is all speculation and changes nothing.

Maybe you put the wrong information up skip.

No speculation,just facts that the Libs have been busted lying their arses off again. Slipper has already released the cab charge dockets from that time,so nothing there. All just a beat up,and you rightards are proving what conniving trash you are. As for the civil case, its all he said she said, with Ashby the obvious SHE in this case. Not to mention Ashby is on record as flirting with Slipper on those mobile calls, its a lovers tiff gone wrong, if you rightards want to have Slipper kicked out for being a closet gay you'd best kick out Pyne and phony Tony with him. Roll Eyes


Where? I've read every single message in the court documents that are freely available online and not one even insinuates flirtation on Ashby's side. You have a vivid imagination!
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Reply #14 - May 18th, 2012 at 3:39pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 3:37pm:
skippy. wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 1:30pm:
progressiveslol wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 9:29am:
Falling apart, it seems the same that it ever was. The article is all speculation and changes nothing.

Maybe you put the wrong information up skip.

No speculation,just facts that the Libs have been busted lying their arses off again. Slipper has already released the cab charge dockets from that time,so nothing there. All just a beat up,and you rightards are proving what conniving trash you are. As for the civil case, its all he said she said, with Ashby the obvious SHE in this case. Not to mention Ashby is on record as flirting with Slipper on those mobile calls, its a lovers tiff gone wrong, if you rightards want to have Slipper kicked out for being a closet gay you'd best kick out Pyne and phony Tony with him. Roll Eyes


Where? I've read every single message in the court documents that are freely available online and not one even insinuates flirtation on Ashby's side. You have a vivid imagination!


Me neither. There are plenty on the other side, though.
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